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Old 08-17-2004, 08:03 PM   #641
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that'd be us, come on boro!

im going for a 4 -1 victory, well thats what they beat us by just about every year so why should this one be any different, because we have someone who can put the ball in the back of the net thats why it'll be different.

real score 2 - 1 to the boro and jimmy f-h will get them both!

by the way i was in spain in a pub packed with gordies when jimmy 'Headed' the goal in the last minute, they were gutted and i loved every second of it!
Arsenal will rip you so badly.
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I dunno, Mark Viduka and all .
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He managed to keep Leeds up season before last

By beating us
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Old 08-17-2004, 09:39 PM   #645
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Isn't he suspended?
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Old 08-17-2004, 09:41 PM   #646
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Nah Viduka is injured.
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Old 08-17-2004, 09:43 PM   #647
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I thought he was out suspended for a while after getting sent off a couple of times for Leeds at the end of last season.

He was definitely suspended against Newcastle.
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Old 08-17-2004, 09:45 PM   #648
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I am sure that they said he was injured that day, that is definitley what I heard.
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Old 08-17-2004, 09:48 PM   #649
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I know he was definitely sent off more than once towards the end of last season. He got sent off for two yellows against Leicester, then he got himself sent off again after that.

Did he get sent off in the final match? Or maybe he was suspended for it? Either way, he had a suspension coming into this season of 2 or 3 games.
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When he got sent off against Bolton, they said that the suspension would come into effect 2 weeks after getting the red card, and that Leeds' final game of the season was 13 days later.

So he wasn't suspended for the last game of last season I'm pretty sure, but does it carry over into this season? I'm not sure of the ins and outs
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Yes it does.
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I know he was definitely sent off more than once towards the end of last season. He got sent off for two yellows against Leicester, then he got himself sent off again after that.

Did he get sent off in the final match? Or maybe he was suspended for it? Either way, he had a suspension coming into this season of 2 or 3 games.
I was at their final match (since I do hold a season ticket for none other then Stamford Bridge) and I just czeched the Chelsea website and he didn't play that day, maybe he was suspended then, but I am sure the commentator on Prem Plus said he was injured Vs the Geordies.
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The FA website has Viduka as starting the season with a 2 game ban carried over

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplin...r_SuspList.htm
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He didn't exactly do much last season anyway
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viduka is suspended and will be back for the game after.

i think we will be up for it as parlour will want to win and they might be a bit nevous and gittery going for the record (hopefully)
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I dunno, Mark Viduka and all .
Mark Viduka is fat, lazy, and shit.
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Any predictions for tonight? I'm thinking it might be a bit of a dull low or even no-score draw
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yeah I reckon 1-1.
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Well I would have gone for some boredraw too.

But turns out it was a very very good performance. Shaun Wright Phillips is the man. Beckham looked quality again and Gerrard is definitely world class.

And ha at Dyer being booed - cocky shit. Felt it went on a bit too long - make your opinion clear but don't boo him at every touch for the majority of the half. He deserves whatever he gets though.
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He kept Leeds up season before last

But hasn't done anything since
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Yeah a good performance. Wright-Phillips took his goal well, Ian Wright was going mental

I dont get why Jenas or Glen Johnson played though. Johnson may be good but he hasn't featured yet for Chelsea and he didn't feature that much for them last season. And Jenas is just cack.
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He kept Leeds up season before last

But hasn't done anything since
think this was due to him being in austrialia with his sick father for about half of last season on compassionate leave.

he got booked and sent off a few times last season as to me he looked as though he was up for the relegation fight but took it to far with his last sending off for i think was a 2 footed challenge. his other sending off towards end of last season was for using his elbow when going for a header (i think) which everyone does, and seeing the replys there wasnt any intention as his eyes were on the ball all the way. (look at big dunc furgerson for example of someone who looks where player is, uses elbow then looks at ball as has done this plenty of times in past).

im not defending viduka for being sent off as if he hadnt he could have given leeds more help in staying up, however saying he didnt do anything last year, wasnt he top scorer or one of top scorers for them with something like 11 goals ??
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I'm pretty sure he scored more than Smith, but he was the villain because he got sent off twice when Leeds really needed him there
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I'm pretty sure he scored more than Smith, but he was the villain because he got sent off twice when Leeds really needed him there
What he said ^^^

Lets not forget he also seemed like a lazy bastard when he did play most of the times moping around when things don't go his way, only JFH is a worse sulker.

Then he got suspended.
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Yeah a good performance. Wright-Phillips took his goal well, Ian Wright was going mental

I dont get why Jenas or Glen Johnson played though. Johnson may be good but he hasn't featured yet for Chelsea and he didn't feature that much for them last season. And Jenas is just cack.
They've only played one game give the poor kid a break. I think hes a great talent and that any time he can play for England is good experience, who would you rather came on at right back?

And Jenas isn't cack he just isn't spectacular.
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Good performance really, no-one really had a bad game.

hahaha @ Dyer, could be off to Birmingham on loan now but that would be pointless, cause he'd only be on the right there, what with them having the midfield of our glory years sans Lennon.
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What he said ^^^

Lets not forget he also seemed like a lazy bastard when he did play most of the times moping around when things don't go his way, only JFH is a worse sulker.

Then he got suspended.
all reports ive had back from people who went to the game said JFH played well, he was always looking for the ball and looking for 1 - 2's. Viduka has ability to be a good striker his record shows this (before last season he had a goal every 2 games or something) the thing is it turned sour at leeds hopefully this will be a new start for him
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I didn't say JFH was a bad player i said he was a sulker. He can be near world class if he puts effort into it its just when things don't go his way he doesn't really dig in and make things happen himself he just wanders off in a sulk.

Viduka is the same except a worse player.
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They've only played one game give the poor kid a break. I think hes a great talent and that any time he can play for England is good experience, who would you rather came on at right back?

And Jenas isn't cack he just isn't spectacular.
danny mills, phil neville, gary neville, erm, erm erm, sod it glen johnson his chance.

also jenas isnt cack, he has a quality first touch, the only trouble is that his second touch always ends up being a slide tackle to try and win the ball back
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I didn't say JFH was a bad player i said he was a sulker. He can be near world class if he puts effort into it its just when things don't go his way he doesn't really dig in and make things happen himself he just wanders off in a sulk.

Viduka is the same except a worse player.
i would agree that JFH is a better player than Viduka but hopefully they will link well together!

if they want to sulk, mclaren wont have it, he's proved this with juninho and danny mills. juno wants to be in the team which is fair play and id have him in the team everytime. however mclaren feels different.

juno went in a sulk realised it wouldnt help and eventually faught his way back into the team (until mclaren decided he doesnt want him anymore)

if JFH & viduka take that attitude and fight for place they'll be fine but if they just sulk they will get dropped.

danny mills didnt get the wages he wanted so sulked by playing badly over last 10 games, mclarens responce bye bye and bought reiziger instead.
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Mills is a cunt

Carrick is apparently in or set for talks with Spurs...dunno, would Spurs over Pompey really be that good of a decision?

Real have bid £14m for Woodgate Given how much he has been and still is injured Newcastle should probably rip their arm off.
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Carrick is apparently in or set for talks with Spurs...dunno, would Spurs over Pompey really be that good of a decision?

Real have bid £14m for Woodgate Given how much he has been and still is injured Newcastle should probably rip their arm off.
west ham should ask for micheal brown as part ex of carricks transfer!

i heard a roumour that marcilino played more games for newcastle than woodgate has, can anyone confirm this?
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Mills is a tosser and shit.

Phil Neville is ugly and shit.

Gary Neville is ugly but consistant and should be first choice I guess.

Enter Johnson in second place.
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i heard a roumour that marcilino played more games for newcastle than woodgate has, can anyone confirm this?
No way Marcellino played about 10 times I swear.

Torn on Woodgate - best defender by an absolute mile but his fitness is even worse than Craig Bellamy's (though its a close race)

If we get 14mil I guess thats a good deal.
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Old 08-19-2004, 04:30 PM   #677
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Crap Scotland score. 3-0 to bloody Hungary. Vogts has to go!
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Old 08-19-2004, 05:51 PM   #678
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Crap Scotland score. 3-0 to bloody Hungary. Vogts has to go!
Yeah the team is shite so sack the manager. That will help!

The guy was the assistant coach when Germany won the World Cup and the manager when they won Euro 96. He also won both as a player. In short, he won more than the whole Scotland team put together. His managerial credentials are second to none. I watch all our games and want us to be as good as we can and it's clear as day that the players are letting us down. Gary Naysmith even admits it. Only Quashie and Fletcher played decent last night (Naysmith tried his best as usual but wasn't his night). The rest where pure pish. All Vogts can do is give instructions. If the players can't perform then that's there own fault. Nobody was knocking Vogts against Germany or Holland (the first game I mean obviously).
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Old 08-19-2004, 06:12 PM   #679
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To be fair one goal was a penalty, another was a GREAT goal and the other was quite unlucky.

I think Charlie Nicholas (the man) and Andy Gray were right afterwards though when they said Scotland should aim to be like Greece and be hard to beat. Because watching the match, there didn't seem to be a whole lot of flair or quality. The two Pompey players that play for Scotland, Quashie and Hughes are both hardworking unspectacular players that will win the ball and pass it. Play to your strengths i suppose.
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Old 08-19-2004, 06:26 PM   #680
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Under Vogts Scotland have gotten worse. At least when Brown was in charge we were a difficult team to beat. We weren't a great footballing team but we were hard to break down. I have thought that Vogts should have gone for ages. I know he hasn't got the greatest bunch of playerws to workl with (besides Fletcher, McFadden and a few others) but neither have Northern Ireland and even they are being moulded into a difficult team to play against. I give Vogts a few games into the World Cup campaign but I seriously doubt we will get anywhere with Vogts around.
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