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Old 02-20-2005, 12:58 PM   #3121
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Old 02-20-2005, 12:58 PM   #3122
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Then again Titus Bramble is playing so there is still a chance.
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Old 02-20-2005, 12:59 PM   #3123
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Old 02-20-2005, 01:04 PM   #3125
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Old 02-20-2005, 01:04 PM   #3126
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Can't help but feel sorry for Mourinho. His wife is going to get an angry shag tonight, I expect.

Jenas was surprisingly shit, as was Boumsong. Dyer was playing like a disabled, but you've come to expect that from him. Decent enough performance from the rest of the team, though.
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Ranieri got sacked for less than what Mourinho did today, granted, that was in the Champions League and not the FA Cup, but even so.
He wasn't in a strong position to win the league and the league cup though.
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He wasn't in a strong position to win the league and the league cup though.
The league was hardly Ranieri's fault after Arsenal's season, and who knows what'll happen on Sunday. In all my years as a Liverpool fan I've only seen them lose 1 cup final.
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Old 02-20-2005, 02:13 PM   #3132
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The league was hardly Ranieri's fault after Arsenal's season, and who knows what'll happen on Sunday. In all my years as a Liverpool fan I've only seen them lose 1 cup final.
I know. Hell, we all know the real reason Ranieri was sacked was so they could hire Mourinho. But I still don't think you can say what Ranieri did in Monaco was "less" than what Mourinho did today. Today was a one-off cup tie (not counting a replay) which is at best 3rd in Chelsea's list of priorities. Last year was Chelsea's best chance of winning something, not just the fact it was the Champions League, and the 1st of a 2-legged tie. However reckless Mourinho was today Ranieri was moreso by throwing away Chelsea's best chance of a trophy.
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I see your point, but at the end of today, Chelsea are out of a cup, with numerous injuries coming out of the game. Duff's condition, whatever it turns out to be, was made worse by staying on the pitch. As Rob said, bringing on 3 players at half time, when its snowing and your playing against players who do have a tendency to be a bit reckless in their challenges at times, your just asking for trouble. While Ranieri was tactically inept against Monaco, Mourinho today was not only tactically inept, but showed a complete disregard for the welfare of his players, who he supposedly has a great relationship. Granted, there is a huge difference between the Champions League and the FA Cup (and I can't say much after what Rafa did) but today Mourinho made some truly awful decisions, and in my opinion, they were worse than Ranieri's.
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UPDARE: Mourinho is a moron.

Who makes 3 subs at half time especially when there is snow?
Oh fuck off you complete and utter cretin, your other comments of late hasn't wound me up like you claim, but this has. Get a clue, you fucking tit. The cup is a knockout competition, right? Goal difference doesn't matter and changes had to be made, Joe Cole was great Vs Everton last week, but shit today, Tiago is fucking horsewank and we all know what a laughing stock Geremi is. Nuts to the snow, it wasn't setting, it was just blowing about. Changes had to be made and everyone with half a clue (well, excluding ECG, RBF and MMM who have been abit off as late) Will tell you the three people that should have come on, we did the best thing we could of, I think Jose was 100% right with everything he did today, except he should have spat on Shearer when he was subbed, the fucking cunt.

Hindsight is wonderful, isn't it, he took a gamble and it didn't work, Bridge is bollocks anyway, so I wasn't in the slightest sad to see him go off.

Defensivley we had a fucking great side out, second best keeper in the league, and the best defence we could have fielded bar Ferreira, Kezman is our best fit attacker and our midfield matched Newcastl'es in the first half, and was better in the second half.

I'm bloody proud of Chelsea today, I went to the game and it was fantastic, forgetting the score, it was a brilliant day out. The Geordies are magnificent, except only their fans near us were singing, the rest did about once all game, I was expecting better. Best stadium in England, really beautiful view and I'd love to go there again.

No complaints, I'd have done nothing different, they weren't better then us, they just took one of there chances.

As for Johnson, "CHELSEA'S, NUMBER ONE, CHELSEA'S CHELSEA'S NUMBER ONE"


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Ranieri got sacked for less than what Mourinho did today, granted, that was in the Champions League and not the FA Cup, but even so.
What the fuck did Mourinho do today??!! He did everything right, 100% right, he is the fucking man and I refuse to even say anything bad about him. Ranieri got sacked because he buckles under pressure and never looked like landing us a trophy, we'd get far then fuck up.

Fair play Newcastle, I hope you win it now, I'd love for the Arse and United to meet in the next round, and Highbury preferably, and the winner to play Newcastle in the final.

On the plus side, I just gotted in half hour ago, late enough to avoid Y2ANT on MSN, .
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I know. Hell, we all know the real reason Ranieri was sacked was so they could hire Mourinho. But I still don't think you can say what Ranieri did in Monaco was "less" than what Mourinho did today. Today was a one-off cup tie (not counting a replay) which is at best 3rd in Chelsea's list of priorities. Last year was Chelsea's best chance of winning something, not just the fact it was the Champions League, and the 1st of a 2-legged tie. However reckless Mourinho was today Ranieri was moreso by throwing away Chelsea's best chance of a trophy.
The F.A cup is fourth in the prioties in my view, and Ranieri stuck Veron on at left mid, and generally always ballsed things up at the most innapropriate of times.

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The score was one-nil.

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Old 02-20-2005, 09:49 PM   #3138
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Old 02-21-2005, 02:40 AM   #3139
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lol @ Mourinho going to shake Souness' hand even with about a minute left in injury time, and Souness motioning to him that 'it's not over yet'. Mourinho what a funny cunt. I have to say though I was pretty surprised at him making the three substitutions at the start of the second half, it's pretty uncommon. Well I haven't seen it done alot anyway.
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Old 02-21-2005, 06:03 AM   #3140
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Old 02-21-2005, 06:07 AM   #3141
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In hindsight it didn't pay off but the only error he made was probably bringing all 3 on so soon, but i've done that a few times on champ manager if i've been frustrated. The intent was to get Chelsea back into the game though, so he should be commended for that, he took a risk and it didn't pay off but that's all really and, after all, they're clear at the top of the league and still in the other cups.

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Old 02-21-2005, 08:35 AM   #3142
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Newcastle vs Spurs or Forest
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I agree with Dazz to be honest.

Yes, putting 3 subs on was a gamble and it didn't pay off but Mourinho wanted to progress so he chucked on his "big guns" with plenty of time left. Had they gone on to come from behind and win as a result people would probably have praised him. Had he waited until 70-80 minutes or so before bringing them on and they'd still lost, people would probably ask "why didn't they come on sooner?". As Dazz said, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

You don't often finish a match with your keeper sent off, a player stretchered off injured and two other players limping, Chelsea's luck just went against them yesterday in that respect.

Calling him a moron is a bit harsh considering how well Chelsea are doing and what he managed at Porto
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Agree with him if you like. That's fine. It's a matter of opinion. My opinion is that making 3 subs with 45 mins of football to play when the conditions are far from perfect and when you are a goal down isn't the smartest move. They could have gone all out for the first 15 of the second half and then made 3 subs. Or they could have made 1 or 2 and kept a 3rd for later. It was a gamble and it didn't pay off.

You might not finish matches with that many injuries but injuries are a frequent occurance in football. It's my opinion that going a complete 45mins when you might need to make tactical changes with any possible back up plan is not bright.

I'm just a complete and utter cretin though so what do I know?
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I'll tell you what you know, and thats fuck all by the sounds of it, you said

"My opinion is that making 3 subs with 45 mins of football to play when the conditions are far from perfect and when you are a goal down isn't the smartest move."

The first part makes sense, kinda, the last part makes no sense at all, you're saying that when oyur losing you dont make three substitutions??!! Fuck off.
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It's a cup game, Chelsea were playing poorly and Mourinho wanted to make a change. In a cup game, especially away from home, you may as well lose 6-0 as lose 1-0, so Mourinho went for it. He wanted a positive response from his team. A draw was no good, he wanted a team that could go out there and score at least 2 goals and win the match, or go down trying.

He made the right changes, and whether it be at half time or 15 minutes into the half, doesn't really matter. You cannot legislate for red cards and serious injuries, and you should base how you plan your tactics based on the fear that you might get an injury.
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Changes had to be made and everyone with half a clue (well, excluding ECG, RBF and MMM who have been abit off as late) Will tell you the three people that should have come on, we did the best thing we could of, I think Jose was 100% right with everything he did today
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:22 PM   #3153
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The Camara comments weren't a one off. The one off part is that you were right (about Mourinho), for once, Mantle.
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:25 PM   #3154
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I am shocked and appaulled, I was right about our hard run in at the end of the season. I was right that Germany would win Euro 2004 I am often right, I could search this thread and find out how many times I have been right, and I bet it is to a higher ratio then you. As it happens, I think we all have better things to do then search the thread and find out. Well, RBF has nothing better to do, he never goes out, bless him.
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:27 PM   #3155
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I still don't think you are right about Ferdinand, but I definitley see why we spent £19.85 million in the summer on Riccy Carvalho, he was our best player yesterday and has been superb all season, you were right on that one, Gatesy.
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Old 02-21-2005, 10:10 PM   #3156
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I'd have thought changing two players would've been enough and then if it was still going tits up later, adding another. I understand the need to attack but you're fucking nuts to even risk that kind of thing.
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I am shocked and appaulled, I was right about our hard run in at the end of the season. I was right that Germany would win Euro 2004 I am often right, I could search this thread and find out how many times I have been right, and I bet it is to a higher ratio then you. As it happens, I think we all have better things to do then search the thread and find out. Well, RBF has nothing better to do, he never goes out, bless him.
Its funny you should mention that actually because a few weeks ago me and Wengerland read like the first 20 pages of this topic again and you suprisingly made a lot of sense.

Then it hit september and you started talking some bollocks about van Nistelrooy and you slowly went downhill until you hit rock bottom with "Camara is a good finisher."

I think it was probably just a case of you going through a funny patch, hopefully you're over that now and we can just move on.
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:15 AM   #3158
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Stoke tonight, and the champions league
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:00 AM   #3159
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WTF did you change your name for fool
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I don't know what you mean

Nah, it was because i don't watch wrestling anymore, so it was pointless and i just said a few names to RDD and he picked that one.
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