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Old 02-18-2005, 10:38 PM   #3041
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I haven't seen enough of Liverpool to decide this season, thats the trouble with uni, I get behind with watching football often, all I know about you lot is what my Liverpool supporting mates say, which in this case is that Nunez has been better this calender year then he was last calender year and seems to be settling in better. I will be able to see for myself what the teams like next week in person.

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Old 02-18-2005, 10:46 PM   #3042
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From what I've seen of Nunez he has been a disapointment but as you said he needs time to settle in after his injury.
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Old 02-19-2005, 07:15 AM   #3043
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Nunez has looked terrible whenever ive seen him. No pace and his crossing was poor. He kept slicing his crosses out for goalkicks.

But as you say, maybe he needs to settle in or was just having a bad game when I saw him.
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:26 AM   #3044
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Without wanting to offend Dazz again, Nunez is genuinely shite. He's about 26 and has been a reserve his whole career. Pretty sure the only thing he has done of note since Christmas is get sent off against Burnley for being ridiculous.

There was talk of Liverpool trying to get Juanfran as part of that deal, and he is a real quality player and a potential star.
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:30 AM   #3045
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Bergkamp sent off, Fabregas should have been and Sheff Utd have had a fine goal disallowed. 0-0 at half time but Arsenal haven't looked good at all.
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:32 AM   #3046
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Why should Fabregas have been sent off?

It wasn't that bad a tackle.
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:37 AM   #3047
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What, so you'd be happy for him just to have been booked if Montgomery's standing leg hadn't moved and he'd have broke his leg?
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how old is Juan Fran? Am I thinking about a different one to the one you're talking about?

and Fabregas' challenge looked nasty, the way he caught his standing leg after he went through wasn't nice.

The Bergkamp sending off and the disallowed goal were a joke though.
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okay, I just went and checked myself and I was thinking of the former Celta Vigo Juan Fran who is like 29.

I didn't know about the one you were talking about. Just read on UEFA.com that he's Figo's understudy, 20 years old and a regular in the reserves, just extended his contract to 2008.
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yeah, my bad. Didn't really make sense now that I think about it since he played for Celta Vigo and Nunez came from Madrid. Oh well.

Alls well that ends well eh?
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What, so you'd be happy for him just to have been booked if Montgomery's standing leg hadn't moved and he'd have broke his leg?
Mark Bright is full of shit.

It was just a late tackle, his trailing leg caught him. There are tackles as bad as that every week. He dived in to get the ball (clearly he went for the ball with his leading foot) and Montgomery just nicked it away from him.
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well yeah, I didnt think there was any intent on Fabregas' part, it was just late and looked bad with the way he went through him with momentum.

And to be fair, you're right there are bad challenges like that all the time. There was that one in I think the Spurs vs Man City match on I think SWP which looked really nasty but didn't do any damage.
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Any time a player slides in at full pace they have the potential to injure an opposition player, intentionally or not.

I think tackle where a player comes in high, above the ankle, are the worst, whether they be two-footed or just the one, and they seem to cause the most injuries. Like Lucas Neill on Jamie Carragher last season, I think.
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I'm pretty sure players have been sent off for lesser tackles all the same. Fabregas didn't particularly go up to apologise.
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Arsenal have just scored through Pires. Paddy Kenny was pretty unlucky there, he's made quite a few good saves second half.
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well yeah, im not saying it was dirty. He was honestly going for the ball and it was flicked away from him but he'd committed himself. It just looked nasty.

Mistimed but not dirty.
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It was still a shit tackle.
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As a Liverpool fan I've gotta say 2 things

Nunez is shite, he is done nothing. He is slow, his crosses are poor and when you look at his face, he doesn't have a clue what to do next. The only good thing about him is that he's fairly good in the air, but thats about it.

Diouf IS class. When we played him on the wing he gave us genuine width, when we played Blackburn in the League Cup he was absolutely magnificent, he had 2 real problems, and they were consistency and his attitude. If he can sort his attitude out, he could become a truly world class player.

Also, I tore my calf playing football last night...... most painful injury I've ever had, anyone who does it professionally has my absolute sympathy from now on.
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Without wanting to offend Dazz again, Nunez is genuinely shite. He's about 26 and has been a reserve his whole career. Pretty sure the only thing he has done of note since Christmas is get sent off against Burnley for being ridiculous.
Again? Keep it real buddy.

I haven't seen enough of him to comment, I have just heard he has been better this year form a mate, I never said it myself.

Point is, Arsenal are shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, it's not the point but Pires is a cunt and the sooner his legs are broken the sooner I get to laugh at him.
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Also, I tore my calf playing football last night...... most painful injury I've ever had, anyone who does it professionally has my absolute sympathy from now on.


Yeah, calf injuries are my number one fear playing football, I went out there today and they were hell tight, even after rubbing vast amounts of deep heat into them.

What's the story with recovery/physio etc.
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Deep heat is shit, I wouldn't use it personally, I am no Dr like Gatesy, but from my understanding it eases the pain at the time but it makes you feel you have stretched the muscle properley before playing, which isnt the actual case. So it makes it worse afterwards, once the deep heat has worn off.
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Not really sure what's gonna happen right now, gotta get back to the physio at the hospital some time next week, it looked really horrible at the time, cos the muscle kinda stuck out like it was a broken leg, everything's a bit of a blur, cos they've stuffed me full of drugs
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Also what I do remember is being pretty stupid, I hammered a shot with my left foot and felt it tighten, but then it was fine, then I dived in for a ball with the keeper, got the touch, collided with the keeper, and then couldn't get up, got helped off and taken to hospital, they did some manipulation, I think that's about it.
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I get real paranoid now when I play because my left leg cramps much more than it should. One day I'm gonna do something major to it
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Oh and Henri Camara has scored.
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Just make sure its warm, when you warm up make sure you wear something that covers your whole leg and always stretch your calf as much as possible, especially if you feel it every now and again.
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Balls, it was all going so well until we had to defend a simple ball in to the box.
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Come on Roman, get out your Chequebook! Camara will be snapped up in no time.


That was a joke, folks. On a serious note, Camara is massivley underrated. Scoring today doesn't mean he is any better the I have said he is, but it shows he can finish a ball, and isn't as bad as ECG would make believe.
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Judging by what Le Tiss was saying, anyone could finish the goals he scored.
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Old 02-19-2005, 11:02 AM   #3075
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Don't wanna hear it, he can still finish the ball, ECG would make you believe that he is such a spastic he'd either miss the ball, not give it enough power, or shoot wide/over.
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Only thing I'm going to say is that a goal is a goal, they all have to get in the net somehow.
That is probably the worst comment of the day too.
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Yeah I hate people that say that, because someone can score a goal doesn't mean they are good. In Camara's case, he scores enough to prove he can finish the ball.
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Deep heat is shit, I wouldn't use it personally, I am no Dr like Gatesy, but from my understanding it eases the pain at the time but it makes you feel you have stretched the muscle properley before playing, which isnt the actual case. So it makes it worse afterwards, once the deep heat has worn off.
It's just a local anasthetic. It doesn't help heal at all, just numbs the pain.
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Old 02-19-2005, 11:10 AM   #3079
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Yeah that's what I meant, it eases the pain, you can't tell if it is stretched properley but you think it is because well, you can't feel it, yet once the deep heat wears off, it's worse then it was before as you have just played again without stretching it.
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Well, I suppose, but even stretching a sore muscle will make it feel worse. People just use it to make their legs feel warmer, which it does, but it doesn't really replace stretching.

I think I tend to injure myself more stretching than I ever do in an actual match, though.
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