Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer) - Page 56

**Ogen** · 12-17-2004, 06:13 AM

Werder - Lyon

**Ogen** · 12-17-2004, 06:14 AM

Liverpool - Leverkusen so they've a chance

**toxic rooster** · 12-17-2004, 06:14 AM

That means we get Bayern Munich

**Ogen** · 12-17-2004, 06:15 AM

PSV - Monaco

**toxic rooster** · 12-17-2004, 06:15 AM

AC - ManYoo

**Ogen** · 12-17-2004, 06:15 AM

United - Milan

Gonna be a fantastic game. 3 huge games in Real - Juve, Chelsa - Barca and United - Milan

**toxic rooster** · 12-17-2004, 06:15 AM

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW
First knock-out round:
Real Madrid v Juventus
Porto v Inter Milan
Barcelona v Chelsea
Werder Bremen v Lyon
Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven v Monaco
Man Utd v AC Milan
Bayern Munich v Arsenal

**Ogen** · 12-17-2004, 06:16 AM

Arsenal - Munich

**toxic rooster** · 12-17-2004, 06:16 AM

- Kahn v Lehmann

Battle of the German keepers

**Ogen** · 12-17-2004, 06:16 AM

Can't wait for Barca - Chelsea in particular

**Ogen** · 12-17-2004, 06:17 AM

Lehman probably won't be getting his game and Kahn is 1000x times better

**Cactus Sid** · 12-17-2004, 06:18 AM

Wow.....Liverpool have the best chance of getting through IMO

**Ogen** · 12-17-2004, 06:20 AM

Yeah totaly wouldn't be shocked to see Liverpool as the last English team next round

**toxic rooster** · 12-17-2004, 06:29 AM

Wouldn't be writing any of the other teams off though. It's a long time till the ties still

**Ogen** · 12-17-2004, 06:29 AM

Predictions anyone?

Real Madrid v Juventus
FC Porto v Inter Milan
Barcelona v Chelsea
Werder Bremen v Lyon
Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen
PSV v Monaco
Man Utd v AC Milan
Bayern Munich v Arsenal

**toxic rooster** · 12-17-2004, 06:36 AM

Wouldn't write us off, Ogen

Real Madrid v Juventus
FC Porto v Inter Milan
Barcelona v Chelsea
Werder Bremen v Lyon
Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen
PSV v Monaco
Man Utd v AC Milan
Bayern Munich v Arsenal

**The Mackem** · 12-17-2004, 06:57 AM

So Man Utd did get Milan.

**toxic rooster** · 12-17-2004, 07:17 AM

Yeah, that's what the whole "Man United v AC Milan" thing is about

**Dazz** · 12-17-2004, 09:24 AM

Still contemplating whether I should get a ticket for the Camp Nou, I went 5 years ago and I would love to go again, BUT we never win when I go to away games, except Fulham in the League Cup and what with it being the first leg it's not as important, I do really wanna go though.

**Wengerland** · 12-17-2004, 09:28 AM

Pretty good draw, quite a few games look class on paper.

**Danny Electric** · 12-17-2004, 09:30 AM

I think it's time for payback and this time there's no Lucio to score.

**Danny Electric** · 12-17-2004, 09:37 AM

Real Madrid v Juventus
Porto v Inter Milan
Barcelona v Chelsea
Werder Bremen v Lyon
Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven v Monaco
Man Utd v AC Milan
Bayern Munich v Arsenal

**Cactus Sid** · 12-17-2004, 10:56 AM

Thats my only real hope of us beating Leverkusen, the fact that Ballack and Lucio...Ze Roberto, Neuville etc... are all gone

**Danny Electric** · 12-17-2004, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid

Thats my only real hope of us beating Leverkusen, the fact that Ballack and Lucio...Ze Roberto, Neuville etc... are all gone

Leverkusen are an ordinary side, much like we are at the moment but I'm confident that we can beat them.

**Maluco** · 12-17-2004, 01:16 PM

Just remember that ordinary side beat Madrid, as awful as they can be, 3-0 in the group stages and are extremely hard to get anything against when they are at home. Without a doubt, the Pool need a win, and a substantial one, at Anfield.

As for the other English teams, could go either way in them all. As a United supporter, am really excited about the game, should be one to remember. Chelsea/Barcelona should be an absolutely amazing game, and completely rests on how well Chelsea defend in my eyes. I do think Terry in the past CAN be shown up at the highest level and it does not get much higher than Ronaldinho. If he stands up to him and outshines him, Campbell and Ferdinand might have to step aside for good. Arsenal on prem form should beat the out of sorts, Bayern, but they are still dangerous, Makaay can score from anywhere and Ballack is a menace. Combine that with arsenal's poor Euro form and they could have real problems.

**Danny Electric** · 12-17-2004, 01:40 PM

Yeah Leverkusen beat Madrid but Madrid aren't the strongest of sides at the moment on the basis of form. Leverkusen are an ordinary side, nothing compared to the one who we lost to a couple of seasons back.
The only thing that worries me is that the players won't be as motivated as if were playing someone like Milan. They've shown that a few times this season.

**Rob Ban Fan** · 12-17-2004, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doink

they dont, its just a cover story to distract you from the fact he will be joining southampton

I doubt it since he wont have that much money to spend and Berkovic would have to take around a �10,000 a week paycut to go there.

I hope we don't sell him anyway, he's a great passer and very creative and if you watch him play you'd realise all this "he never tackles" bollocks is rubbish. He won us the game against West Brom.

**Wengerland** · 12-17-2004, 04:48 PM

DAVID CONNOLLY

Should have beaten the Trees but i'll take the point given it was an injury time equaliser.

**Fungry** · 12-17-2004, 09:52 PM

Hey all, am I the first here to notice that Wee Gooner and Yianni are scum?
Yours sincerely, Fungry

**toxic rooster** · 12-17-2004, 10:55 PM

Whatever, Y2C

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 12-18-2004, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen

As for the other English teams, could go either way in them all. As a United supporter, am really excited about the game, should be one to remember. Chelsea/Barcelona should be an absolutely amazing game, and completely rests on how well Chelsea defend in my eyes. I do think Terry in the past CAN be shown up at the highest level and it does not get much higher than Ronaldinho. If he stands up to him and outshines him, Campbell and Ferdinand might have to step aside for good.

Have a word with yourself. John Terry, as good as he is, is not, and never will be, better than Rio Ferdinand. Sol Campbell maybe.

Plenty of teams have neutralised Ronaldinho, this season and last.

**The Mask** · 12-18-2004, 02:29 PM

I think we have AC milan. most of them are getting on, and although they have a great team, i think if we take the game to them, we'll be fine.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 12-18-2004, 02:31 PM

Their team isn't that old. Just a few of the defenders. They've got a much better (and younger) midfield and attack.

**Dazz** · 12-18-2004, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto

Have a word with yourself. John Terry, as good as he is, is not, and never will be, better than Rio Ferdinand. Sol Campbell maybe.

Have a word with yourself, ECG. Campbell is, and always will be, better then Ferdinand, if Chelsea could have one of those two I'd always want Campbell. Terry, IMO (and yes I really it means little enough to you as it is, and even less so on this matter as I am a Chelsea fan) is alot better then Ferdinand, he is fucking flawless and fucking solid at the back, not to mention he is the man from corners too. I honestly wouldn't take anyone over John Terry at the back.

Truth is ECG, if John Terry was Irish, you would say he is alot better then Rio Ferdinand.

**Ogen** · 12-19-2004, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mask

I think we have AC milan. most of them are getting on, and although they have a great team, i think if we take the game to them, we'll be fine.

Nah Milan will win and then I'll have control of your avatar for a month ( Just sticking it in here so we have evidence when you try and back out

)

**yianni** · 12-21-2004, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungry

Hey all, am I the first here to notice that Wee Gooner and Yianni are scum?
Yours sincerely, Fungry

at Barcelona - Chelsea though, Dazza if I was in your position I'd be on the first plane to Spain mate, go for it. That'll be fucking mad.

**toxic rooster** · 12-21-2004, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yianni

Dazza if I was in your position I'd be on the first plane to Spain

Fuck that, I'd walk if I had to.

**Ogen** · 12-21-2004, 06:57 AM

Real rejected Liverpools bid for Morienties want first refusal on Gerrard as part of it

**Cactus Sid** · 12-21-2004, 07:21 AM

Well Morientes has as good as handed in a transfer request, so I think its just a case of Liverpool upping the offer to 5, 6 million.

**Wengerland** · 12-21-2004, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWEngland

Ronaldinho's won World Player of the Year

Now it's official

12-17-2004, 06:13 AM	#2201
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Werder - Lyon

12-17-2004, 06:14 AM	#2202
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Liverpool - Leverkusen so they've a chance

12-17-2004, 06:14 AM	#2203
toxic rooster adjective noun Posts: 30,417	That means we get Bayern Munich

12-17-2004, 06:15 AM	#2204
Ogen Posts: 16,220	PSV - Monaco

12-17-2004, 06:15 AM	#2205
toxic rooster adjective noun Posts: 30,417	AC - ManYoo

12-17-2004, 06:15 AM	#2206
Ogen Posts: 16,220	United - Milan Gonna be a fantastic game. 3 huge games in Real - Juve, Chelsa - Barca and United - Milan

12-17-2004, 06:15 AM	#2207
toxic rooster adjective noun Posts: 30,417	CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW First knock-out round: Real Madrid v Juventus Porto v Inter Milan Barcelona v Chelsea Werder Bremen v Lyon Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen PSV Eindhoven v Monaco Man Utd v AC Milan Bayern Munich v Arsenal

12-17-2004, 06:16 AM	#2208
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Arsenal - Munich

12-17-2004, 06:16 AM	#2209
toxic rooster adjective noun Posts: 30,417	- Kahn v Lehmann Battle of the German keepers

12-17-2004, 06:16 AM	#2210
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Can't wait for Barca - Chelsea in particular

12-17-2004, 06:17 AM	#2211
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Lehman probably won't be getting his game and Kahn is 1000x times better

12-17-2004, 06:18 AM	#2212
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Wow.....Liverpool have the best chance of getting through IMO

12-17-2004, 06:20 AM	#2213
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Yeah totaly wouldn't be shocked to see Liverpool as the last English team next round

12-17-2004, 06:29 AM	#2214
toxic rooster adjective noun Posts: 30,417	Wouldn't be writing any of the other teams off though. It's a long time till the ties still

12-17-2004, 06:29 AM	#2215
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Predictions anyone? Real Madrid v Juventus FC Porto v Inter Milan Barcelona v Chelsea Werder Bremen v Lyon Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen PSV v Monaco Man Utd v AC Milan Bayern Munich v Arsenal

12-17-2004, 06:36 AM	#2216
toxic rooster adjective noun Posts: 30,417	Wouldn't write us off, Ogen Real Madrid v Juventus FC Porto v Inter Milan Barcelona v Chelsea Werder Bremen v Lyon Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen PSV v Monaco Man Utd v AC Milan Bayern Munich v Arsenal

12-17-2004, 06:57 AM	#2217
The Mackem VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT Posts: 38,940	So Man Utd did get Milan.

12-17-2004, 07:17 AM	#2218
toxic rooster adjective noun Posts: 30,417	Yeah, that's what the whole "Man United v AC Milan" thing is about

12-17-2004, 09:24 AM	#2219
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	Still contemplating whether I should get a ticket for the Camp Nou, I went 5 years ago and I would love to go again, BUT we never win when I go to away games, except Fulham in the League Cup and what with it being the first leg it's not as important, I do really wanna go though.

12-17-2004, 09:28 AM	#2220
Wengerland Theo Zagorakis Posts: 7,148	Pretty good draw, quite a few games look class on paper.

12-17-2004, 09:30 AM	#2221
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	I think it's time for payback and this time there's no Lucio to score.

12-17-2004, 09:37 AM	#2222
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Real Madrid v Juventus Porto v Inter Milan Barcelona v Chelsea Werder Bremen v Lyon Liverpool v Bayer Leverkusen PSV Eindhoven v Monaco Man Utd v AC Milan Bayern Munich v Arsenal

12-17-2004, 10:56 AM	#2223
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Thats my only real hope of us beating Leverkusen, the fact that Ballack and Lucio...Ze Roberto, Neuville etc... are all gone

12-17-2004, 01:16 PM	#2225
Maluco Reigning Tipsters Champ! Posts: 2,088	Just remember that ordinary side beat Madrid, as awful as they can be, 3-0 in the group stages and are extremely hard to get anything against when they are at home. Without a doubt, the Pool need a win, and a substantial one, at Anfield. As for the other English teams, could go either way in them all. As a United supporter, am really excited about the game, should be one to remember. Chelsea/Barcelona should be an absolutely amazing game, and completely rests on how well Chelsea defend in my eyes. I do think Terry in the past CAN be shown up at the highest level and it does not get much higher than Ronaldinho. If he stands up to him and outshines him, Campbell and Ferdinand might have to step aside for good. Arsenal on prem form should beat the out of sorts, Bayern, but they are still dangerous, Makaay can score from anywhere and Ballack is a menace. Combine that with arsenal's poor Euro form and they could have real problems.

12-17-2004, 01:40 PM	#2226
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Yeah Leverkusen beat Madrid but Madrid aren't the strongest of sides at the moment on the basis of form. Leverkusen are an ordinary side, nothing compared to the one who we lost to a couple of seasons back. The only thing that worries me is that the players won't be as motivated as if were playing someone like Milan. They've shown that a few times this season.

12-17-2004, 04:48 PM	#2228
Wengerland Theo Zagorakis Posts: 7,148	DAVID CONNOLLY Should have beaten the Trees but i'll take the point given it was an injury time equaliser.

12-17-2004, 09:52 PM	#2229
Fungry Posts: 10	Hey all, am I the first here to notice that Wee Gooner and Yianni are scum? Yours sincerely, Fungry

12-17-2004, 10:55 PM	#2230
toxic rooster adjective noun Posts: 30,417	Whatever, Y2C

12-18-2004, 02:29 PM	#2232
The Mask That Entenbrot, The Mask Posts: 56,852	I think we have AC milan. most of them are getting on, and although they have a great team, i think if we take the game to them, we'll be fine.

12-18-2004, 02:31 PM	#2233
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	Their team isn't that old. Just a few of the defenders. They've got a much better (and younger) midfield and attack.