Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer)

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Ogen I'd love to see Brown at Villa but I can see him going to 'Pool or Newcastle

Why the hell would he want to go there? The guy will be a hot free agent and if Real Madrid signed Woodgate, Wes Brown can go to Barcelona, Inter, AC Milan, Juventus or Arsenal.

I hope he doesn't go anyway.

Roy Carroll also rejected a contract offer.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Brown's injury record is even worse than Woodgate's.

[diothoir]

I'd rate Carroll above Howard, but maybe that because I dunnae like Howard.

Regardless, Leeds have 4 strikers who cannae score. Now we'll have Healy who'll solve the problem.

I hate being sarcastic.

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Healy's got a decent enough reputation in the Championship, but he won't fire Leeds back to the Premiership

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Cruiserweight 3:16 Healy's got a decent enough reputation in the Championship, but he won't fire Leeds back to the Premiership

Leeds aren't coming back to the big time anyway.

[toxic rooster]

What's the go with Leeds financially, will they be going into administration any time soon?

[Ogen]

Nah think their finances are as stable as can be expected considering all their troulbes but there still paying for players they don't even have for the next few years yet so it'll be a good while before they have proper money

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Originally Posted by Rob Leeds aren't coming back to the big time anyway.

No they won't do for a few years. They'll always attract decent Championship level players, and eventually they'll sort out their money problems, so give it between 4-5 years and I reckon Leeds will probably be back in the Premiership.

[Shawshank]

i was well impressed with tony macmahon for middlesbrough yesterday, for an 18 year old making his debut against man u he did really well. i hope maclaren doesnt just forget about these kids when all the big name players are back.

4-5 years before leeds are back in the premiership? how many of there fans would seriously be happy with that?

[Ogen]

Nothing that can be done about it they ain't coming back until they have some money and they won't have money for a good while

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Cruiserweight 3:16 No they won't do for a few years. They'll always attract decent Championship level players, and eventually they'll sort out their money problems, so give it between 4-5 years and I reckon Leeds will probably be back in the Premiership.

They have over £80 million in debt. They can't afford to bring anyone in and any "decent Championship level players" usually aren't good enough to cut the mustard in the Premiership so if they did come up, they'd be right back down.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Glasgow Rangers have almost £80 million debt too. Any other business and they'd be in big trouble, but football clubs can get away with being run like shit.

Leeds have enough stature and support to get back into the top division eventually. They just have to stabilise. Their youth system is one of the best in the country.

[Oxstar]

Crystal Palace 2 Fulham 0

I was there and it was wicked, Palace have a slim chance of survival

[Mr. Monday Morning]

UEFA Cup Group Draw:

GROUP A
Feyenoord
Schalke
FC Basle
Hearts
Ferencvaros

GROUP B
Parma
Besiktas
Athletic Bilbao
Steaua Bucharest
Standard Liege

GROUP C
Club Brugge
Real Zaragoza
FC Utrecht
FC Dnipro
Austria Vienna

GROUP D
Newcastle
Sporting Lisbon
Sochaux
Panionios
Dinamo Tbilisi

GROUP E
Lazio
Villarreal
Middlesbrough
Partizan Belgrade
Egaleo FC

GROUP F
Rangers
Auxerre
Grazer AK
Amica Wronki
AZ Alkmaar

GROUP G
Stuttgart
Benfica
Dinamo Zagreb
Heerenveen
Beveren

GROUP H
AEK Athens
Lille
Sevilla
Allemannia
FC Zenit

Each team plays 2 home games and 2 away games with 1 day off. How the fixtures are worked out exactly I've no idea.

[Ogen]

WTF what have they done

[Mr. Monday Morning]

The ever-popular Robbie Savage sparked a tunnel bust-up with Graeme Souness on Sunday after telling the Toon boss: "I'm a better player than you ever were."

According to The Sun, Savage and Souness rowed after Newcastle's draw with Birmingham. Supporting the contention of one of Savage's former Leicester team-mates that, "If brains were chocolate he wouldn't have enough to fill a Smartie," the newspaper claims that not only did Savage spark the clash with the Premiership’s toughest manager but also claimed that he was a better player than Souness ever was.

Yes, because Souness never won anything as a player, whereas the honours-laden Savage has won, erm,…

Savage apparently turned on Souness as he marched past the Newcastle bench at St Andrew’s, shouting that Newcastle were "s**t" and that the Scot was "only fifth-choice for the Newcastle job."

"Yeah, and you’re a really great player, aren't you?" responded the irate Souness.

"I'm a better player than you were," Savage then claimed.

Souness then followed Savage into the Brum dressing room to politely enquire: "Which clubs have you played for?"

Following Savage’s failure to answer, Souness continued: "Remind me what you’ve won - because I can't remember anything."

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Have it you twat Savage

[Ogen]

“I’m feeling all angry about these modern day footballers, I know why they have gone all soft - It’s because of poncy names. That’s what it is.

Remember in the old days, when footy players kicked a f*cking ball made out of ten pound of clay stitched inside a steel-reinforced leather shell with laces made out of piano wire? Well, in them days players could only survive the rigours of the game because they were called things like Albert, Arthur, Bert, Harry, Bill, Eddie, Bob, Jack and Tommy. F*cking tough names for tough men, them was. And what do we have now? Jason, Wayne, Dean, Ryan, Jamie, Robbie. F*cking tarts’ names, they are. Great big f*cking puffs. No wonder the ball’s like a f*cking balloon and shin pads is like slices of bread. In the old days you never saw a Len Shackleton or a Billy Wright with a puffy little Sondico piece of paper down his little thin socks. F*cking shinpads in them days was made out of library books, and socks was like sackcloth.

Same with the jerseys. F*cking shirts with holes in now so they can breathe. Yes, so that little Jody’s airless chest can breathe and he doesn’t get a chill. F*ck off. Stanley Matthews used to dribble round Europe’s finest wearing a f*cking tent and shorts cobbled together from the jacket of his de-mob suit. Aye, he f*cking did. No wonder players fall over all the time whenever an opponent comes anywhere near them.

And they never used to show their arses at one another either. Can you imagine what might have happened if Don Revie had flashed his ring at Nat Lofthouse during a City-Bolton Wanderers game? He’d have got one of them size 10 hobnail f*ckers up his b*stard chuff.

F*cking therapy for stress my arse! Stan Collymore slaps his missus about and he takes three seasons off with stress counselling. What the f*ck is that all about? In the old days it was expected for footballers to belt the old sow about a bit, specially after a bad defeat. And the women used to expect it, and so they should have. They was lucky to be married to footballers.

Ha! Trevor Morley got a kitchen knife in his back off his wife and was out of action for three month. Soft tw*t. Archie McSh*tt of Port Vale got run over with horse and cart one Friday night and he still turned out against Bradford the following day. And he scored two goals. That’s cos his name wasn’t “Trevor”. Good old Archie. Broke his hip, both his legs, murdered his wife and buried her under the patio and still made the England team for the Home Internationals. Did he have any “stress counselling”? Did he b*llocks!

And drugs? There was none of that in the old days. Oh, no. In them days it was a quick shot of morphine before kick-off and you was lucky if you got that. By half-time it had all but wore off so they pumped you full of laudanum. None of this cocaine sniffing and shooting up class narcotics.

Goal celebrations? Don’t talk to me about goal celebrations. Crawling on the floor and thrusting their hips at the crowd. Huh! I’d like to have seen Cliff Bastin do that after a run down the left flank and crossing for Alex James to fire home a winner. Handshakes...and that was all you got. That and a w*nk in the showers afterwards. But it was a proper w*nk...all man stuff. None of these puffy w*nks between blokes that you get nowadays with players like Greame Le Saux and Stephen Gerrard. Allegedly. In them days, there was nowt wrong with it cos it didn’t mean nowt. They used to say there was a “gay atmosphere” in the dressing room after the match. But it didn’t mean owt mucky. Just a bit of harmless spanking the plank among healthy young sportsmen. Aye. I know. Me dad told me.

Sixty grand a f*cking week! Ha! I wouldn’t pay ‘em tuppence. Two bob Tommy Lawton used to get...a month! And Tom Finney still worked as a plumber four days a week when he was playing for England. It’s true, you know. F*cking is. Players had to work them days just to make up their money. Not like today. Stan Pearson had to clean sewers and doubled up as Old Trafford sh#thouse cleaner. He had to go off during one game because some c*nt had built a log cabin and blocked the U-bend. And that Eddie Hapgood was a male model...though he never liked to talk about it.

So I say we start calling kids real male names again. If you’re having a kid, don’t even consider puffy names and sh*te names like what people call their kids these days. Otherwise what we gonna get in twenty years’ time? The England team full of players called Keanu, Ronan, Ashley and f*cking Chesney. F*ck that! Call your kids Alf, Herbert, Len, Frank, Fred and Wilf. And let’s get the puffs out of the game once and for all.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto Glasgow Rangers have almost £80 million debt too. Any other business and they'd be in big trouble, but football clubs can get away with being run like shit. Leeds have enough stature and support to get back into the top division eventually. They just have to stabilise. Their youth system is one of the best in the country.

Eventually being the key word. I wouldn't bank on them hanging around if they got back either.

As for Rangers, they are miles bigger than Leeds are. They'll fill 50,000 seats olaying in a sub par league and they are in Europe every year. They'll clean out most of that debt within 3 years.


And what the hell was Savage doing comparing himself to Souness. Talk about a shite comparing itself to ice cream. Retard.

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Originally Posted by Rob They have over £80 million in debt. They can't afford to bring anyone in and any "decent Championship level players" usually aren't good enough to cut the mustard in the Premiership so if they did come up, they'd be right back down.

They're not £80 million in debt - you do realise Leeds Utd did go into administration last season for a few hours and thus had over £40 million worth of debt wiped off. They're debt is probably more severe than the other Championship sides, but they've still got just enough to keep the club going and invest in the youth team.

[Rob]

Do you know what administration is? You don't just go into it and have half your debt wiped. If you did, everyone would be doing it.

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

Originally Posted by Rob Do you know what administration is? You don't just go into it and have half your debt wiped. If you did, everyone would be doing it.

I know that, but they reached a deal with the creditors where they allowed the takeover to occur providing that they met certain requirements, and the creditors would rather have a takeover occur and some of the debt paid back rather than no takeover and no money being paid back. As a result of the takeover, under £40 million would be owed to the remaining creditors. Going into administration was a procedure they needed to follow in order to justify and reach that agreement.

[Oxstar]

Give me some predictions for the England Vs Wales game, i think it will be England 2 Wales 0, Rooney and Defoe to get a goal each.

[Ogen]

England 3 - Wales 1

More importantly in Paris it shall be France 1 - Ireland 1

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Woodgate limped out of a training session yesterday

[Shawshank]

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning Woodgate limped out of a training session yesterday

i dont mean to but i cant help it so

[Rob]

England 1-1 Wales

[Cruiserweight 3:16]

England 2 - 0 Wales at the moment

[Mr. Monday Morning]

WOW our strikers are selfish bastards

Also get the captaincy off Beckham, dozy prat can't even stay where he's supposed to *and* acts like a nob when anyone dares tackle him. I'm glad he's suspended cause it gives someone else a chance.

[Wengerland]

Good result, wasn't the best performance though.

Wright-Phillips had better start ahead of Hargreaves on wednesday.

[Danny Electric]

I would love to see Wright-Phillips start.
One thing that pisses me off is how much everyone was up Rooney's arse. No way was he the man of the match, he needed to pass the ball more and gave away the ball too many times. I know he's only 18 and that over time he will learn alot more but I think he gave a pretty porr performance today.
I couldn't stop laughing at Owen trying to claim that goal, but he's a foward and he should want to claim it. I was pleased with his performance.
Beckham's goal was outstanding but he acted like a dick to get booked. I'm guessing that we will be told that he would have missed the next game anyway through injury. Just to dampen the suspension.
For Wales apart from one mistake, Danny Gabiadon(?) was outstanding along with Paul Jones. If it wasn't for them two then they would have been alot more goals. John Hartson was terrible and I Giggs was trying to hard, I feel sorry for him.
I also feel sorry for John Terry.

[Wengerland]

France 0-0 Ireland

BRILLIANT. O'Shea perhaps should've won it and there should have been a penalty with Barthez being sent off but i'll take a point

[Ferocious]

The Boro possibly trying again to sign Owen Hargreaves in the January transfer window.

After his performance for Wales today I wouldn't mind seeing Danny Gabbidon at the Riverside either.

Trendous performance from Ireland.
Scotland very poor
England overall looked solid but overused Rooney
Wales I believe played the wrong formation.

[BCWWF]

Beckham broke his rib, whats up with that?

Also, the MLS is expanding...The new team: Real Salt Lake City

[yianni]

Fuck Beckham's goal was unreal against Wales. Greece with another draw. Though it is pleasing to come away from the Ukraine with a score draw after being behind. The next game is at home to Kazakhstan on November 17. It is IMPERATIVE that we get a result from that in order to get back on track.

[Ogen]

0-0 will do nicely and if the French play like that at Lansdowne we'll rape them.

[The Mackem]

Is there a fake Salt Lake City?

[Wengerland]

Micky Adams has resigned

I know i've wanted him out a few times before but after i said i'd give him 2-3 games we won 2 and drew 1, so i was happy for him to stay until christmas at least, considering we're not terribly placed. Some of our fans' reaction has been a bit over the top but the football and form at home has been poor. He did a very good job in his first year, bit disappointed last year considering the number of leads we lost but not as bad as has been made out this year, considering we're still above Leeds, Wolves and our rivals. After all, Sunderland have shown that a team can climb the table easily with a few wins.

Please don't put Bassett back in charge though

[Rob Ban Fan]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...71392,,00.html

"Well im a better footballer than you."

Brilliant. What a fantastic retort.

[Danny Electric]

"You're crap"

[Shawshank]

Originally Posted by WWEngland Micky Adams has resigned Please don't put Bassett back in charge though

3 guesses who's in tempary charge?