NFL 2006 Season Thread - Page 24

**AlphaBean** · 10-24-2006, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BCWWF

The fact that McNabb has that many good recievers is a testiment to how good he is playing, considering who they are. Hank Baskett was an undrafted free agent, for example. Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison are Pro Bowl recievers.

Flip it around here for a second:

Fast forward 5 years, and keep McNabb together with his current line and receivers. What would you say? Wayne was drafted by the Colts I believe, and Harrison didn't start doing well until Peyton came along. You can't compare the two, because all of McNabb's receivers are all rookies or 2nd year players. Who's to say Baskett isn't the next Wayne? Or that Brown/Lewis aren't the next Harrison?

RP · 10-24-2006, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

No it is because Supreme is right

Your post does make it seem like Manning is underappericated or something, "He is the MVP as much as people don't want to admit it" lol what are you talking about? Who disputes the claim that Manning is one of the best players in the NFL? I don't think anyone does. I don't think anyone doubts his toughness either, since I don't think he has missed a start in his entire career. You really do say the dumbest shit sometimes, then when somebody calls you out on it you have no response then post dumb shit like your last reply. "Keep spinning though man" lol COME ON

You're right. I didnt mean it like that, but the wording makes it come off like that.

I think Manning is MVP so far this year. Whats everyone else think?

RP · 10-24-2006, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Slugs

He might have the best passer rating right now, but he is nowhere close to being MVP (so far). That award, my friend, will be going to Donovan McNabb.

Player	Team	Yds	Att	Cmp	TDs	Ints	Long	Rating
Peyton Manning	IND	1620	206	131	12	2	51	103.2
Donovan McNabb	PHI	2151	243	144	16	5	87	101.7

I'd say the difference being, Manning lost his star Rb and his defense is very questionable. And been very responsible for 4 of the 6 wins Indianapolis has had. And Indy is 6-0. Philly is 4-3.

RP · 10-24-2006, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean

Flip it around here for a second:

Fast forward 5 years, and keep McNabb together with his current line and receivers. What would you say? Wayne was drafted by the Colts I believe, and Harrison didn't start doing well until Peyton came along. You can't compare the two, because all of McNabb's receivers are all rookies or 2nd year players. Who's to say Baskett isn't the next Wayne? Or that Brown/Lewis aren't the next Harrison?

We're not talking about 5 years later and MVP awards arent awarded on " what if's ". Phillies WR's have been great this year no doubt. Realistically, saying anyone might be the next Marvin Harrison is a major stretch. Reggie Wayne, maybe, tho i think he's on his way to HoF numbers, but saying any young reciever might become the next Harrison or Rice. That holds no water. There might not be another Harrison or Rice.

**D Mac** · 10-24-2006, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme

I wonder what Eddie Kennison said to Trent Green the first time he saw him at practice. "Hey man I know I pushed the guy into you who knocked you out cold but I was wondering if I could get some more deep balls thrown my way."

Actually it was "Hey glad to see you back after that pussy ass cheap shot took you out."

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-24-2006, 09:32 AM

Everyone can clearly see that the Saints are the best team in the league..

RP · 10-24-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus

Everyone can clearly see that the Saints are the best team in the league..

Not quite, but one of the best?? Maybe.

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-24-2006, 09:59 AM

Being alittle silly there..

I saw Mike Doss is out for the season..

RP · 10-24-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus

Being alittle silly there..

I saw Mike Doss is out for the season..

Yah thank god Bobby Sanders is coming back for Denver.

Bathea is for real. He's good.

ps I

Booger

**Joey Slugs** · 10-24-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac

Actually it was "Hey glad to see you back after that pussy ass cheap shot took you out."

Clean Hit.

**AlphaBean** · 10-24-2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

We're not talking about 5 years later and MVP awards arent awarded on " what if's ". Phillies WR's have been great this year no doubt. Realistically, saying anyone might be the next Marvin Harrison is a major stretch. Reggie Wayne, maybe, tho i think he's on his way to HoF numbers, but saying any young reciever might become the next Harrison or Rice. That holds no water. There might not be another Harrison or Rice.

So what the fuck are you trying to even say? That Harrison and Wayne make Manning?

They're arguing that McNabb is doing better than Manning because he has worse receivers. I tried to defend your claim that Manning is MVP by saying... how can anyone know who makes whom? Did Manning make his receivers, or did they make him? He's had Harrison and Wayne for years, McNabb always has new receivers. It's impossible to tell what each QB would do in the other's shoes. You can't. And any receiver CAN be the next Harrison or Rice (I said Wayne). Players get better every year, if you honestly think there will NEVER be another, you are an idiot.

Basically, if you're going to fight me on this, you're arguing that McNabb is MVP.

Way to go.

So intent on fighting everybody that you don't even know what you're fighting about anymore.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-24-2006, 12:20 PM

Going back to the MVP topic I really don't know who I'd choose. I wouldn't have any problem with McNabb or Manning, although both have their faults. It's probbably Manning right now tho, he's led a a pretty awful (so far anyway) defense to a 6-0 start so I think that'd cancel out his bad performances againest some of the weaker teams in the NFL (Tennesse games comes to mind, pretty sure there was another just can't remember which...only reason I know that is cuz hes killing me on my fantasy team

haha)

**AlphaBean** · 10-24-2006, 01:21 PM

It's between Brad Johnson and Edgerrin James, IMO.

**Kris P Lettus** · 10-24-2006, 01:33 PM

Edge is only averaging like 2.5 yards per carry..

**Gonzo** · 10-24-2006, 01:43 PM

Giants whooped ass, LaVar is out for the season though.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-24-2006, 07:13 PM

wow does TO ever shut up? They showed like 19 different clips of him yelling on the sidelines lol

RP · 10-25-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean

So what the fuck are you trying to even say? That Harrison and Wayne make Manning?

They're arguing that McNabb is doing better than Manning because he has worse receivers. I tried to defend your claim that Manning is MVP by saying... how can anyone know who makes whom? Did Manning make his receivers, or did they make him? He's had Harrison and Wayne for years, McNabb always has new receivers. It's impossible to tell what each QB would do in the other's shoes. You can't. And any receiver CAN be the next Harrison or Rice (I said Wayne). Players get better every year, if you honestly think there will NEVER be another, you are an idiot.

Basically, if you're going to fight me on this, you're arguing that McNabb is MVP.

Way to go.

So intent on fighting everybody that you don't even know what you're fighting about anymore.

Did Montana make Rice or did Rice make Montanta

RP · 10-25-2006, 12:25 AM

My point is, Manning and Harrison didnt make eachother. They complimented eachother. They're both HoF players. Why is it assumed that one makes the other.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-25-2006, 12:30 AM

So Manning has a Hall of Fame wideout and McNabb doesn't? Wouldn't that be a postive for McNabb in terms of the MVP race?

**BCWWF** · 10-25-2006, 12:47 AM

So basically, Peyton Manning is the MVP because his proven wide recievers aren't playing well and Donovan McNabb is overrated because his rookie wide recievers are far exceeding expectations.

**AlphaBean** · 10-25-2006, 01:37 AM

Haha Stima gets it. RP argued until his point is dead. Wow. That's a Homer Simpson moment right there.

"10 dollars? ID DO IT FOR FREE!"

"Okay, do it for free."

"FREE? I'D PAY TO DO IT!"

"Okay."

RP · 10-25-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

So Manning has a Hall of Fame wideout and McNabb doesn't? Wouldn't that be a postive for McNabb in terms of the MVP race?

That wasnt my argument, I thought Bean was saying that McNabbs recievers might be as good as Harrison or Wayne some day. I simply said, that i didnt think they'd be as good as Harrison, or Wayne.

I wasnt really talking interms of comparing McNabb and Manning. I think my posts are being read out of contex.

RP · 10-25-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean

Haha Stima gets it. RP argued until his point is dead. Wow. That's a Homer Simpson moment right there.

"10 dollars? ID DO IT FOR FREE!"

"Okay, do it for free."

"FREE? I'D PAY TO DO IT!"

"Okay."

Why do you quickly pounce on people and try to make them look like asses, when you dont completely understand what they're saying? Its really ignorant. But you've always done it, so o well .

RP · 10-25-2006, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

We're not talking about 5 years later and MVP awards arent awarded on " what if's ". Phillies WR's have been great this year no doubt. Realistically, saying anyone might be the next Marvin Harrison is a major stretch. Reggie Wayne, maybe, tho i think he's on his way to HoF numbers, but saying any young reciever might become the next Harrison or Rice. That holds no water. There might not be another Harrison or Rice.

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean

So what the fuck are you trying to even say? That Harrison and Wayne make Manning?

Yah, thats exactly what i said, because thats exactly what you read in my post. Me saying that. Right? Fuck off please.

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

My point is, Manning and Harrison didnt make eachother. They complimented eachother. They're both HoF players. Why is it assumed that one makes the other.

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

So Manning has a Hall of Fame wideout and McNabb doesn't? Wouldn't that be a postive for McNabb in terms of the MVP race?

I never said it wasnt.

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Originally Posted by BCWWF

So basically, Peyton Manning is the MVP because his proven wide recievers aren't playing well and Donovan McNabb is overrated because his rookie wide recievers are far exceeding expectations.

I never said this either. Never even close. I'm starting to wonder if any of you either bother reading what i say. I know Alphabean doesnt.

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean

Haha Stima gets it. RP argued until his point is dead. Wow. That's a Homer Simpson moment right there.

"10 dollars? ID DO IT FOR FREE!"

"Okay, do it for free."

"FREE? I'D PAY TO DO IT!"

"Okay."

You have no clue at this point. You're just trying to make yourself look good. I havent even argued much at all.

**AlphaBean** · 10-25-2006, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Why do you quickly pounce on people and try to make them look like asses, when you dont completely understand what they're saying? Its really ignorant. But you've always done it, so o well .

Uh, fucking look in the mirror, pal. You pounced on me, like a plucky kid who has his hat over his eyes, swinging every which way. I was trying to take your side and you shat on me, and want to ask me why I pounce? Fucking right.

There's only one "contex" of my post, and that's Manning vs McNabb, in response to the people who said that McNabb's receivers are horrible.

Also, don't you daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare play the victim, not here, not ever. You have as much right as I have to play the victim. You know you deserve everything you get, and then some. You will never, ever get "sympathy" from me, especially considering I tried being cool with you... but instead, you "pounced" on everything I've ever said. Including, but not limited to what I said about Brees not two days ago.

Fuck. Sometimes you're absolutely terrible, you know that?

**AlphaBean** · 10-25-2006, 02:00 AM

LOL do you blame me for never reading your posts? Now it's either you being high and queer, or all moody like "why are you guys picking on me?" and queer, or "I want to shove my tongue in someone's ass" queer. Otherwise it's your typical "I HATE YOU AND HOPE U R DIE."

But no, I read your shit. Maybe a little less weed will lead to less "misinterpretations."

At what point, do you begin to think that if everyone misunderstands you... maybe it's not their fault?

RP · 10-25-2006, 02:01 AM

You said...

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean

Flip it around here for a second:

Fast forward 5 years, and keep McNabb together with his current line and receivers. What would you say? Wayne was drafted by the Colts I believe, and Harrison didn't start doing well until Peyton came along. You can't compare the two, because all of McNabb's receivers are all rookies or 2nd year players. Who's to say Baskett isn't the next Wayne? Or that Brown/Lewis aren't the next Harrison?

I said..

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

We're not talking about 5 years later and MVP awards arent awarded on " what if's ". Phillies WR's have been great this year no doubt. Realistically, saying anyone might be the next Marvin Harrison is a major stretch. Reggie Wayne, maybe, tho i think he's on his way to HoF numbers, but saying any young reciever might become the next Harrison or Rice. That holds no water. There might not be another Harrison or Rice.

Yah clearly i'm shitting an enormous amount of shit on you there.

**AlphaBean** · 10-25-2006, 02:06 AM

Saying something I'm saying is "a stretch" and "holds no water," certainly isn't what I was expecting when I was TAKING YOUR SIDE.

But fuck that. Forget it. Just drop it. This argument is over.

You get what you want, dude. Everyone to team up on you. And that's what happens when the only time anyone takes your side, you argue against them.

I won't make that stupid mistake again... I should just assume that you're ALWAYS WRONG, so when people argue against you, I'll take their side, because eventually you will, too, whether you mean to or not.

RP · 10-25-2006, 02:09 AM

I'll admit, i didnt read BCWWF's comments on the previous page at the end, I understand what you're saying now. Manning shouldnt be punished for having great recievers. At the same time, Mcnabb should be commended for having average recievers and still putting up big numbers. I get it now. I was never shitting on you in the first place. Its done now . K?

RP · 10-25-2006, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean

Saying something I'm saying is "a stretch" and "holds no water," certainly isn't what I was expecting when I was TAKING YOUR SIDE.

But fuck that. Forget it. Just drop it. This argument is over.

You get what you want, dude. Everyone to team up on you. And that's what happens when the only time anyone takes your side, you argue against them.

I won't make that stupid mistake again... I should just assume that you're ALWAYS WRONG, so when people argue against you, I'll take their side, because eventually you will, too, whether you mean to or not.

I'll fuck your bum like i love you.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 10-25-2006, 07:43 AM

SI.com Player Poll, who is the best receiver in the league

Terrell Owens, Cowboys.....28%
Steve Smith, Panthers.....23%
Marvin Harrison, Colts.....20%
Chad Johnson, Bengals.....13%
Randy Moss, Raiders.....8%
Torry Holt, Rams.....3%
Santana Moss, Redskins.....1%
Hines Ward, Steelers.....1%
Mushin Muhammad, Bears.....1%
Anquan Boldin, Cardinals.....1%

There's no fucking way Torry Holt only deserves 3%. God, he is so slept on it's not even funny.

RP · 10-25-2006, 08:07 AM

I'd say Torry Holt hands down.

If its all time, from that list, i'd go Harrison, Moss, Holt then Owens

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-25-2006, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

That wasnt my argument, I thought Bean was saying that McNabbs recievers might be as good as Harrison or Wayne some day. I simply said, that i didnt think they'd be as good as Harrison, or Wayne.

I wasnt really talking interms of comparing McNabb and Manning. I think my posts are being read out of contex.

Word, I wasn't really following along with your argument with AlphaBean

RP · 10-25-2006, 10:20 AM

P.S. 11 days sTiMa34

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-25-2006, 12:04 PM

yahtzeeee

**Savio** · 10-25-2006, 05:01 PM

Bledsoe Is the reason Cowboys lost not TO

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-25-2006, 05:35 PM

Why would they approve having 2 regular season games outside of the United States? Such a terrible idea.

**BCWWF** · 10-25-2006, 07:07 PM

Rectal, my comments weren't directed at you.

**Gonzo** · 10-25-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

P.S. 11 days sTiMa34

I don't know if I ever mentioned this but I won two tickets to the Pats/Colts game in Foxboro for that day. Gonna be fucking sweet.

**OssMan** · 10-25-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

Why would they approve having 2 regular season games outside of the United States? Such a terrible idea.

yeah i seriously dont get this, taking a huge shit on the fans, do they even get to go to the out of country game if they have season tickets (even though no one will)? Giants probably gonna get one too since they had 9 home games last year

10-24-2006, 09:32 AM	#926
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Everyone can clearly see that the Saints are the best team in the league..

10-24-2006, 09:59 AM	#928
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Being alittle silly there.. I saw Mike Doss is out for the season..

10-24-2006, 12:20 PM	#932
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Going back to the MVP topic I really don't know who I'd choose. I wouldn't have any problem with McNabb or Manning, although both have their faults. It's probbably Manning right now tho, he's led a a pretty awful (so far anyway) defense to a 6-0 start so I think that'd cancel out his bad performances againest some of the weaker teams in the NFL (Tennesse games comes to mind, pretty sure there was another just can't remember which...only reason I know that is cuz hes killing me on my fantasy team haha)

10-24-2006, 01:21 PM	#933
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	It's between Brad Johnson and Edgerrin James, IMO.

10-24-2006, 01:33 PM	#934
Kris P Lettus Listen to Killer Mike Posts: 56,741	Edge is only averaging like 2.5 yards per carry..

10-24-2006, 01:43 PM	#935
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Giants whooped ass, LaVar is out for the season though.

10-24-2006, 07:13 PM	#936
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	wow does TO ever shut up? They showed like 19 different clips of him yelling on the sidelines lol

10-25-2006, 12:25 AM	#938
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	My point is, Manning and Harrison didnt make eachother. They complimented eachother. They're both HoF players. Why is it assumed that one makes the other.

10-25-2006, 12:30 AM	#939
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	So Manning has a Hall of Fame wideout and McNabb doesn't? Wouldn't that be a postive for McNabb in terms of the MVP race?

10-25-2006, 12:47 AM	#940
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	So basically, Peyton Manning is the MVP because his proven wide recievers aren't playing well and Donovan McNabb is overrated because his rookie wide recievers are far exceeding expectations.

10-25-2006, 01:37 AM	#941
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	Haha Stima gets it. RP argued until his point is dead. Wow. That's a Homer Simpson moment right there. "10 dollars? ID DO IT FOR FREE!" "Okay, do it for free." "FREE? I'D PAY TO DO IT!" "Okay."

10-25-2006, 02:00 AM	#946
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	LOL do you blame me for never reading your posts? Now it's either you being high and queer, or all moody like "why are you guys picking on me?" and queer, or "I want to shove my tongue in someone's ass" queer. Otherwise it's your typical "I HATE YOU AND HOPE U R DIE." But no, I read your shit. Maybe a little less weed will lead to less "misinterpretations." At what point, do you begin to think that if everyone misunderstands you... maybe it's not their fault?

10-25-2006, 02:06 AM	#948
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	Saying something I'm saying is "a stretch" and "holds no water," certainly isn't what I was expecting when I was TAKING YOUR SIDE. But fuck that. Forget it. Just drop it. This argument is over. You get what you want, dude. Everyone to team up on you. And that's what happens when the only time anyone takes your side, you argue against them. I won't make that stupid mistake again... I should just assume that you're ALWAYS WRONG, so when people argue against you, I'll take their side, because eventually you will, too, whether you mean to or not.

10-25-2006, 02:09 AM	#949
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	I'll admit, i didnt read BCWWF's comments on the previous page at the end, I understand what you're saying now. Manning shouldnt be punished for having great recievers. At the same time, Mcnabb should be commended for having average recievers and still putting up big numbers. I get it now. I was never shitting on you in the first place. Its done now . K?

10-25-2006, 07:43 AM	#951
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	SI.com Player Poll, who is the best receiver in the league Terrell Owens, Cowboys.....28% Steve Smith, Panthers.....23% Marvin Harrison, Colts.....20% Chad Johnson, Bengals.....13% Randy Moss, Raiders.....8% Torry Holt, Rams.....3% Santana Moss, Redskins.....1% Hines Ward, Steelers.....1% Mushin Muhammad, Bears.....1% Anquan Boldin, Cardinals.....1% There's no fucking way Torry Holt only deserves 3%. God, he is so slept on it's not even funny.

10-25-2006, 08:07 AM	#952
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	I'd say Torry Holt hands down. If its all time, from that list, i'd go Harrison, Moss, Holt then Owens

10-25-2006, 10:20 AM	#954
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	P.S. 11 days sTiMa34

10-25-2006, 12:04 PM	#955
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	yahtzeeee

10-25-2006, 05:01 PM	#956
Savio Spammy Certified Posts: 46,126	Bledsoe Is the reason Cowboys lost not TO

10-25-2006, 05:35 PM	#957
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Why would they approve having 2 regular season games outside of the United States? Such a terrible idea.

10-25-2006, 07:07 PM	#958
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Rectal, my comments weren't directed at you.