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Old 08-26-2004, 04:32 PM   #881
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Deigo as in the Brazilian? Fuck me I am well behind with the times.

I don't think Carvalho was a big loss, I didn't think he was that good in Euro 2004, Andrelade is MUCH better, he made Carvalho look better then he is. Ferrairia is better then Carvalho. And they have lost Deco too, and if you don't think that Mourinho was a huge factor in Porto winning the Champions League then you are wrong. They wont amount to shit without him.
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Carvalho is fucking brilliant. Best signing Chelsea made. I've been a fan of Carvalho's for a couple of seasons now. He is in the elite of the world's defenders. Andrade is great too, alright, but Carvalho has it all.

And Porto pulled off the signing of Diego from Santos. I think he'll turn out better than Deco. I don't think Porto will challenge for the tournament again, but they'll be tough to beat.
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Yeah me and Mask often look out for Deigo when he played for Santos, and he was pretty good whenever I saw him. He will be the man.
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Cavenaghi signed for Spartak Moscow, apparently. About a month ago. Only just read about it yesterday.
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UEFA are to investigate possible links between Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich and Russian side CSKA Moscow after both clubs were drawn in the same group of the Champions League.

European football's governing body will look into a £30million three-year sponsorship deal with CSKA announced earlier this year by Sibneft, the Russian oil giant in which Abramovich holds the majority shareholding.

UEFA communications director William Gaillard told the Press Association: "We are going to look into it and see whether there is a controlling interest by Mr Abramovich with two teams in the same group."

He added: "We have to find out whether it is a controlling interest or not. We may already have the facts to decide to dismiss it as a problem but it has to be looked into thoroughly."

Abramovich is a close friend of CSKA president Yevgeny Giner and was a guest in his personal VIP box in Moscow on two occasions earlier this year.

Under current regulations, no person is allowed a controlling interest in two clubs playing in the same competition but UEFA will have to decide whether the sponsorship deal counts as any conflict of interest.

Chelsea issued a statement in a bid to refute any suggestion of a conflict of interest for Abramovich.

"Chelsea is certain that UEFA and any other clubs in the Champions League should be completely unconcerned by this matter," the statement read.

"The situation is very clear. Mr. Abramovich is the owner of Chelsea Football Club while Sibneft, a company in which he is one of many shareholders, is the shirt sponsor of CSKA Moscow.

"Mr Abramovich has no equity stake or any direct financial interest in CSKA."
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apparently bellion might be a makeshift in the rooney deal

it's strange being a united fan, one minute you're down in the dumps, and the next they sell forlan, and swap bellion avec cash for rooney.

Now we just need a better midfield.

It's a shame really, cause giggs keane scholes and beckham a few years ago was the best midfield in the world, and I always thought that. Swap Beckham for Ronaldo and it'd still be great minus the creativity. Only thing is Keane's winding down now and he isn't the player he once was, and Giggs doesn't seem to give a fuck half the time.
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Rooney demands transfer.

Guess he'l be a Man U player by the weekend with apparently either Kleberson or Bellion going the other way.

What Ferguson ever saw in Bellion is beyond me. I remember he came on when we beat Sunderland at home which i was at and was the worst player I'd ever seen. We cheered his every touch.

Then Man U were interested

He wouldn't get in the current Sunderland side I swear.
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United don't need Rooney what they need are 4 non-carthorse/crackhead defenders.

Ferguson can't play Rooney, Smith, Saha and Van Nistelrooy in the same line up. United will (if they sign Rooney) end up like Real Madrid last season.

They'll also have two of the most hypocritical players in the league in their team in Rooney and Smith. I hate all this badge-kissing I love the club bullshit.
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I think United will be more like the 98/99 season, when they had Cole, Yorke, Solskjaer and Sheringham. Top teams need 4 world class strikers, not to mention that Rooney is 18 anyway, so if they let him get away now, they may not get an opportunity to sign him in the future. See Alan Shearer scenario.

Besides, Newcastle have even more strikers: Ameobi, Bellamy, Kluivert, Shearer

And they really need a couple of defenders.

And the interest in Bellion came from him going to the same football academy as Anelka, Henry, Saha etc. which is well known for producing class players.
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Full UEFA draw:

Graz AK v Litex Lovech
Lazio v Metalurg Donetsk
Bodo/Glimt v Besiktas
Shelbourne v Lille
Hearts v Braga
Austria Vienna v Legia Warsaw
Banska Bystrica v Benfica
Partizan Belgrade v Dinamo Bucharest
Parma v Maribor
Real Zaragoza v Sigma Olomouc
Sporting Lisbon v Rapid Vienna
Newcastle v Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin
Steaua Bucharest v CSKA Sofia
Wisla Krakow v Dinamo Tblisi
Utrecht v Djurgardens
Millwall v Ferencvaros
Schalke v Liepajas Metalurgs
Maccabi Haifa v Dnipr Dnipropetrovsk
Terek Grozny v Basel
Odd Grenland v Feyenoord
Aalborg v Auxerre
Sevilla v Nacional Madeira
NK Gorica v AEK Athens
Standard Liege v Bochum
Crvena Zvezda v Zenit St Petersburg
Trabzonspor v Athletic Bilbao
Ujpest v Stuttgart
Maccabi Petach Tikva v Heerenveen
Panionios v Udinese
Levski Sofia v Beveren
Dinamo Zagreb v Elfsborg
Hafnarfjordur v Aachen
Middlesbrough v Banik Ostrava
Club Brugge v Chateauroux
PAOK v AZ Alkmaar
Ventspils v Amica Wronki
Sochaux v Stabaek
Egaleo v Genclerbirligi
Rangers v Maritimo
Villarreal v Hammarby


Middlesbrough face a tough test against Banik Ostrava, a Czech Republic side with a fine tradition, so the Carling Cup winners will need to be on their guard in their first European fixtures.

return tickets £180 so tempting to go!!!!
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Some more transfers and rumours doing the rounds:

-Everton to sign Djimi Traore from Liverpool for £1.5m (I'm sure Sid is laughing his ass off at that one)

-Arsenal said to be interested in signing Valencia's Migel Angulo

-Citeh said to be interested in signing Mido from Marseille after Wanchope completes his move to Malaga

-Celtic have apparently failed in a loan bid for Saviola
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So much for Rooney loving Everton. I really don't see the point in wasting 25 million pounds on a player who is far from the finished article. Smith, Saha and Ruud are all much better players plus Solskjaer who is one of the most natural finishers in the game. The only way I see this working is if Fergie tries to develop Smith into a midfielder.
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haha the tribunal for Gareth Williams ordered us to pay £500,000 with some add ons about promotion and the like.We offered them £750,000 in the summer but they turned it down Mind you he has been crap so far.

@ Wolves probably having Lescott and Murray back tomorrow. They could also be getting this South Korean forward.
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Mind you with Rooney, Smith and Keane the red cards should keep on coming.

I guess you do need 4 strikers if 2 of them are going to spend most of their time suspended/being sucked off by skanky Scouse whores.
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They'll also have two of the most hypocritical players in the league in their team in Rooney and Smith. I hate all this badge-kissing I love the club bullshit.
How is Smith a hypocrite? He did everything he could for Leeds and openingly admitted he was leaving if they went down. He never said who he was or wasn't signing for and since he came to United, he hasn't kissed our badge.
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If he loved the club as much as he says he does then why did he not stay and try to help the club win promotion? He didn't, he left as soon as he could in search of a big fat pay day.
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If he loved the club as much as he says he does then why did he not stay and try to help the club win promotion? He didn't, he left as soon as he could in search of a big fat pay day.
No he never. He left to better himself as a footballer. Playing for a team who are regularly in the Champions League and challenging for honours helps that. Funny how he is right back in the England team now too. Would he get a game for them playing in the 1st division?

And even if he did leave a club he loved when they went down, how does that make him a hypocrite? The guy said he was leaving if they went down. They went down and he left. How does living up to your word make you a hypocrite? I guess he was a hypocrite when he refused his £500,000 signing on fee Leeds owed him and he was perfectly entitiled to just to help their financial troubles.
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How is Smith a hypocrite? He did everything he could for Leeds and openingly admitted he was leaving if they went down. He never said who he was or wasn't signing for and since he came to United, he hasn't kissed our badge.
How about the fact that he was asked on Soccer AM once 'Which club would you never play for?' and Smith's answer was Man Utd!!!
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How about the fact that he was asked on Soccer AM once 'Which club would you never play for?' and Smith's answer was Man Utd!!!
Well that's a valid reason. People are entilted to change their minds though.
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@ Wolves probably having Lescott and Murray back tomorrow. They could also be getting this South Korean forward.
Lescott will probably (hopefully) play but I dunno about Murray...I'd say Jones and Oakes were ahead of him right now just on fitness, I really don't know who our definitive first choice keeper is right now.

Naylor might also be fit (although I hope not cause I'd rather have Rob Edwards there) and Sturridge should be fit, though Leon Clarke might keep his place (tbh I think he should, he's done very well considering he hadn't played a senior game before this season).

Carl Cort is nearly back but without match practice he can't play
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If he loved the club as much as he says he does then why did he not stay and try to help the club win promotion? He didn't, he left as soon as he could in search of a big fat pay day.
Actually Leeds said Smith would be sold whether they stayed up or not. Smith said he would only leave if the club went down.
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How about the fact that he was asked on Soccer AM once 'Which club would you never play for?' and Smith's answer was Man Utd!!!
I have no problem with players leaving for the money but don't talk about how much you love the fans and club if you are going to take the biggest paycheck on offer.
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Remember that time Alan Shearer turned down United to play for the club he loved too?

oh yeah. ahahaha.

Looks like Kluivert took the same path too
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oh yeah. ahahaha.

Looks like Kluivert took the same path too
Kluivert turned us down in 1998 for Barcelona. We bidded £9 million and he said he wanted to fight for his spot at AC Milan. A week later, he left for £8 million. By Christmas, Man United has knocked Barcelona out the Champions League on the way to winning the treble.
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And the interest in Bellion came from him going to the same football academy as Anelka, Henry, Saha etc. which is well known for producing class players.
Yeah except you can see the difference in quality. Henry was quality at Monaco, Anelka at Arsenal and Saha at Fulham. Bellion was a piece of shit at Sunderland.

Bellion isn't deserving of licking the shit off Henry's boots.
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How about the fact that he was asked on Soccer AM once 'Which club would you never play for?' and Smith's answer was Man Utd!!!
Yeah what he said ^^^

Everyone knew he was going to leave.

Saying you would never join your arch rivals and then engineer that you do as soon as the club goes down makes you a hypocrite.
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Holy shit at Man U.

Good Assist there Louis with your hand.
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Remember that time Alan Shearer turned down United to play for the club he loved too?

oh yeah. ahahaha.

Looks like Kluivert took the same path too
Remember those times you signed Robben and Ronaldinho??

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At the end of all that fair play to Ferguson to say the goal shouldn't have stood

*grudgingly*
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Apparently Wolves are about to sign Ibrahima Babayoko and WBA have agreed a fee for Robert Earnshaw.
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Apparently Lee Hughes got stabbed in prison because inmates were pissed off at how he supposedly got better treatment
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Apparently Wolves are about to sign Ibrahima Babayoko
Yeah I heard that on the local radio...first this South Korean striker now Bakayoko, I dunno wtf Dave Jones is doing when we desperately need strengthening at the back. Fortunately Jo Lescott from listening to the commentary is back to his awesome best but we need more than that, since Craddock is shit.
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Poor Mackem.

Mind you I'm not sure about Ramalho's injury.


Arca's sting in the tale



Arca joins a long and strange list


Sunderland defender Julio Arca has entered the pantheon of bizarre footballing injuries after a jellyfish stung him on the chest.

The Argentine was concluding a training session on the beach with a swim in the North Sea when he sustained the injury.

Arca suffered an allergic reaction and was admitted to hospital after initial treatment at the club training ground.

Speculation is rife as to the type of Jellyfish, with a Portuguese man-of-war among the favourites.

Sunderland club doctor David Gough said: "It's difficult to say what type of jellyfish it was.

"The fact that he has had such a reaction makes you think it was not the standard type found off the English coast.

"Occasionally you get Portuguese man-of-war jellyfish in these waters; and with the turbulent tides seen in recent weeks that is possible.

"Either way the treatment is the same and he'll be fine. The only difference is that if it was a man-of-war he might expect pain for 24 hours and a rash for up to a month."

Gough added on the club's official website: "We don't know if he'll be fit for Saturday, we'll be in a better position to say on Thursday."

The incident happened off Seaburn beach in Sunderland and manager Mick McCarthy admitted: "You certainly can't plan for this."

But Arca is far from the first footballer to by hit by a strange injury.


Watch out - these fellas bite

Spain goalkeeper Santiago Canizares missed the World Cup in 2002 after dropping a bottle of aftershave on his foot.

Likewise goalkeeper Dave Beasant, who damaged ligaments in his foot after knocking over a bottle of salad cream.

Chelsea keeper Carlo Cudicini injured himself reaching for the remote control and Rio Ferdinand injured himself simply by relaxing with his feet on a coffee table.

But one of the most remarkable must surely have afflicted Brazilian star Ramalho, who was in bed for three days after swallowing a suppository intended to treat a dental infection.
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