Modern Warfare 2 - Page 2

**Fignuts** · 03-05-2009, 12:13 PM

Seriously.

I've never seen a good player bitch about martyrdom. Fuck, you don't even have to be that good. I'm average, and I very rarely get killed by it. Certainly not enough where I'm crying for it to be taken out.

And all this talk of "rewarding you for getting killed" is a complete crock of shit. You are not garaunteed a kill. And it isn't a reward for dying. It's a reward for reaching the level in rank that unlocks it.

Just so sick of all this whining and bitching about stuff in this game. M16s are noob, grenade launchers are noob, uav jammer is noob, martyrdom is noob, stopping power is noob, shooting people is noob.

Maybe everyone should just stand completly still and try and knife one another. No one will get any kills, but at least they won't be noobs.

G · 03-05-2009, 12:56 PM

Fignuts is noob.

**Fignuts** · 03-05-2009, 01:01 PM

Your face is noob.

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-05-2009, 01:53 PM

Avoid what? A fucking bomb from a corpse? The only way to avoid it would be to steer clear of a recent frag, interrupting your tactical movements about a deathmatch (or whathaveyou) and for what? The strategic implications are annoying at best. Games aren't decided from 'failsafe' measures and should not be.

I waltz around the range of the blast from the stupid Perk and go about my business. Except it's not a uniform Perk, so people will steer clear of 'dying corpse' just in case they get fragged by a bomb that the killed player did not have to activate in any way. In Gears you have to have a grenade in hand at the time of death, and then activate the move for a last ditch well deserved frag (and I can't even believe I'm citing Gears for this one).

In Halo you merely throw a grenade at your feet when death is pretty much expected, still a move at your control. This carries over to just about any other shooter. Pfft, even CoD4!

So why then is there some static mechanic that leaves the player totally void of responsibility pending death? Why should the game designers be so kind as to include a bothersome mechanic like this? It is gay and counter-intuitive to CoD's [apparently] tactic heavy nature - which, BTW, the game consistently contradicts with various features that spit on the idea of balance.

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-05-2009, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts

Seriously.

I've never seen a good player bitch about martyrdom. Fuck, you don't even have to be that good. I'm average, and I very rarely get killed by it. Certainly not enough where I'm crying for it to be taken out.

And all this talk of "rewarding you for getting killed" is a complete crock of shit. You are not garaunteed a kill. And it isn't a reward for dying. It's a reward for reaching the level in rank that unlocks it.

Just so sick of all this whining and bitching about stuff in this game. M16s are noob, grenade launchers are noob, uav jammer is noob, martyrdom is noob, stopping power is noob, shooting people is noob.

Maybe everyone should just stand completly still and try and knife one another. No one will get any kills, but at least they won't be noobs.

I can care less about that other shit, I'm specifically talking about the highlighted portion. Don't rank me in with bitches who can't play the game when I'm supporting my case with-

You know what? Fuck it. Enjoy the game, later.

**Fignuts** · 03-05-2009, 02:13 PM

Wasn't talking about you specifically. Just the community in general.

**stone cold** · 03-05-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts

Kalyx is off his rocker. Perks are awesome. Also, Martyrdom is excellent for objective based games. Wouldn't use it in kill based games, but in domination or headquarters, it's too useful a tool not to use it.

I agree it's very handy when it comes to those 2 matches especially on maps like shipment where the map is very confined. I scored like 700 some points on headquarters just on that map thanks to the martrdom perk.

**stone cold** · 03-05-2009, 02:25 PM

This is just a game, it's meant for entertainment purposes. You all take this way to seriously. It's not a life or death situation.

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-05-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts

Wasn't talking about you specifically. Just the community in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stone cold

This is just a game, it's meant for entertainment purposes. You all take this way to seriously. It's not a life or death situation.

'The fuck? Am I playing a competitive game to pussy-foot around and waste time or am I testing my skills? If you don't care about winning why bother? I mean, yeah you have a right to enjoy the game at merits you define for yourself - it's none of my business. But don't even try to pull that 'take it serious' bullshit on me.

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-05-2009, 02:39 PM

Try again.

**LoDownM** · 03-05-2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD

Avoid what? A fucking bomb from a corpse? The only way to avoid it would be to steer clear of a recent frag, interrupting your tactical movements about a deathmatch (or whathaveyou) and for what? The strategic implications are annoying at best. Games aren't decided from 'failsafe' measures and should not be.

I waltz around the range of the blast from the stupid Perk and go about my business. Except it's not a uniform Perk, so people will steer clear of 'dying corpse' just in case they get fragged by a bomb that the killed player did not have to activate in any way. In Gears you have to have a grenade in hand at the time of death, and then activate the move for a last ditch well deserved frag (and I can't even believe I'm citing Gears for this one).

In Halo you merely throw a grenade at your feet when death is pretty much expected, still a move at your control. This carries over to just about any other shooter. Pfft, even CoD4!

So why then is there some static mechanic that leaves the player totally void of responsibility pending death? Why should the game designers be so kind as to include a bothersome mechanic like this? It is gay and counter-intuitive to CoD's [apparently] tactic heavy nature - which, BTW, the game consistently contradicts with various features that spit on the idea of balance.

It's not like there is a gernade indicator or anything so you can aviod it

PS: Spaz

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-05-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoDownM

It's not like there is a gernade indicator or anything so you can aviod it

PS: Spaz

Problem solved, right?

Right.

**LoDownM** · 03-05-2009, 02:46 PM

Yes. Stop bitching because you don't see the indicator quick enough.

G · 03-05-2009, 03:06 PM

lol Kalyx flying off the handle

**Blitz** · 03-05-2009, 03:21 PM

It really isn't hard to avoid. Most of the weapons, you shouldn't be killing at too close a range anyways. And if you get killed once or twice by it in a match, that's enough to remind you to be wary.

I got killed by it a lot when I started. But now it's second nature to me (most of the time) to not blindly charge over a just killed corpse. Yeah it kind of sucks if you're going around a corner and run into an martyrdomed enemy that a teammate just dropped or something, but shit like that happens in video games.

And all the stuff about it disrupting tactical movement, well that's kind of the point, isn't it. I know I'm not gonna turn off any of my perks because it annoys my opponent. I want him off his game. That's like complaining about people throwing fireballs in Street Fighter because you can't walk across the screen anymore.

**RoXer** · 03-05-2009, 04:25 PM

oh fuck i just typed up this big long fuvking repl on my stupid fucking but then i pressed clear one too many times and it all got fucked up.

But yeah, I was also against you, Kalyx. YOu have no friends in this arguement

**RoXer** · 03-05-2009, 04:26 PM

* stupid fucking phone

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-05-2009, 09:57 PM

Fuck you guys. And fuck RoXer's phone.

G · 03-05-2009, 10:12 PM

Don't you mean RoXy's phone.

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-05-2009, 10:14 PM

That too.

Fuck all phones!

**stone cold** · 03-07-2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD

'The fuck? Am I playing a competitive game to pussy-foot around and waste time or am I testing my skills? If you don't care about winning why bother? I mean, yeah you have a right to enjoy the game at merits you define for yourself - it's none of my business. But don't even try to pull that 'take it serious' bullshit on me.

Well guess what i just did and thats the bottom line.

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-07-2009, 11:21 PM

Yo...

Silence.

G · 03-07-2009, 11:24 PM

Because there is nothing to discuss about this game. Fucking Blitz had to ruin it.

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-07-2009, 11:25 PM

[ i ] [ /i ]

G · 03-07-2009, 11:28 PM

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**Kalyx triaD** · 03-07-2009, 11:39 PM

HTML lacks.

G · 03-07-2009, 11:40 PM

I don't know how to display UBB code, so HTML will do for my purpose.

**Kalyx triaD** · 03-07-2009, 11:42 PM

Oh I see.

**The Mackem** · 03-08-2009, 07:36 AM

Kalyx tiraDe

**Mooияakeя�** · 03-08-2009, 01:02 PM

AS long as the game is decent and they have a good PAM mod, everything is fine. The world will be a better place.

G · 03-26-2009, 12:09 AM

**Blitz** · 03-26-2009, 11:43 AM

Shoulda bumped the real topic

**D Mac** · 03-26-2009, 07:47 PM

11/10/2009

Too far away.

G · 03-27-2009, 03:48 PM

G · 05-10-2009, 09:57 PM

**Blitz** · 05-10-2009, 10:21 PM

G you are a bitch.

G · 05-10-2009, 10:30 PM

Modern Warfare 2 teaser video shows off first game footage, promises 'world premiere' May 24

TNT has been teasing the "world premiere" of Modern Warfare 2 on May 24th during the Eastern Conference , and it's offering a teaser as a hook. It looks like the footage might be culled solely from cutscenes, but it seems to be promising us some snowmobile vehicle action, underwater levels, and a shellfire sequence that hearkens back to the AC-130 gunship level in the first game.

Check out the video above, and if you're interested in Modern Warfare 2, or the NBA, then tune in during the Eastern Conference finals in two weeks. That Siberian setting is looking particularly cool at the start of the summer.

[Thanks to everyone who sent this in! Now back to your regular TNT viewing]

**Blitz** · 05-10-2009, 10:39 PM

Still a bitch.

**RoXer** · 05-10-2009, 10:43 PM

what a baby

stop whining

G · 05-10-2009, 10:48 PM

I'm a bit hesitant with joystiq's embed codes, because I'm not sure if the video is showing up for anyone else. After copying and pasting the code, it leaves "excess" code laying around. When I delete that, the video seems to disappear. So, it's like post their video with extra code sticking out, or nothing at all. Probably just me. Pretty sure it is.

03-07-2009, 11:28 PM	#65
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03-26-2009, 12:09 AM	#71
G Selectively Social Posts: 16,336	don't get too happy just yet, it's nothing special Last edited by G; 03-26-2009 at 12:29 AM.

05-10-2009, 09:57 PM	#75
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05-10-2009, 10:30 PM	#77
G Selectively Social Posts: 16,336	Modern Warfare 2 teaser video shows off first game footage, promises 'world premiere' May 24 TNT has been teasing the "world premiere" of Modern Warfare 2 on May 24th during the Eastern Conference , and it's offering a teaser as a hook. It looks like the footage might be culled solely from cutscenes, but it seems to be promising us some snowmobile vehicle action, underwater levels, and a shellfire sequence that hearkens back to the AC-130 gunship level in the first game. Check out the video above, and if you're interested in Modern Warfare 2, or the NBA, then tune in during the Eastern Conference finals in two weeks. That Siberian setting is looking particularly cool at the start of the summer. [Thanks to everyone who sent this in! Now back to your regular TNT viewing] Last edited by G; 05-10-2009 at 10:33 PM.

03-05-2009, 12:13 PM	#41
Fignuts Hey Mister! Posts: 54,952	Seriously. I've never seen a good player bitch about martyrdom. Fuck, you don't even have to be that good. I'm average, and I very rarely get killed by it. Certainly not enough where I'm crying for it to be taken out. And all this talk of "rewarding you for getting killed" is a complete crock of shit. You are not garaunteed a kill. And it isn't a reward for dying. It's a reward for reaching the level in rank that unlocks it. Just so sick of all this whining and bitching about stuff in this game. M16s are noob, grenade launchers are noob, uav jammer is noob, martyrdom is noob, stopping power is noob, shooting people is noob. Maybe everyone should just stand completly still and try and knife one another. No one will get any kills, but at least they won't be noobs.

03-05-2009, 12:56 PM	#42
G Selectively Social Posts: 16,336	Fignuts is noob.

03-05-2009, 01:01 PM	#43
Fignuts Hey Mister! Posts: 54,952	Your face is noob.

03-05-2009, 01:53 PM	#44
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Avoid what? A fucking bomb from a corpse? The only way to avoid it would be to steer clear of a recent frag, interrupting your tactical movements about a deathmatch (or whathaveyou) and for what? The strategic implications are annoying at best. Games aren't decided from 'failsafe' measures and should not be. I waltz around the range of the blast from the stupid Perk and go about my business. Except it's not a uniform Perk, so people will steer clear of 'dying corpse' just in case they get fragged by a bomb that the killed player did not have to activate in any way. In Gears you have to have a grenade in hand at the time of death, and then activate the move for a last ditch well deserved frag (and I can't even believe I'm citing Gears for this one). In Halo you merely throw a grenade at your feet when death is pretty much expected, still a move at your control. This carries over to just about any other shooter. Pfft, even CoD4! So why then is there some static mechanic that leaves the player totally void of responsibility pending death? Why should the game designers be so kind as to include a bothersome mechanic like this? It is gay and counter-intuitive to CoD's [apparently] tactic heavy nature - which, BTW, the game consistently contradicts with various features that spit on the idea of balance.

03-05-2009, 02:13 PM	#46
Fignuts Hey Mister! Posts: 54,952	Wasn't talking about you specifically. Just the community in general.

03-05-2009, 02:25 PM	#48
stone cold Posts: 39	This is just a game, it's meant for entertainment purposes. You all take this way to seriously. It's not a life or death situation.

03-05-2009, 02:39 PM	#50
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Try again.

03-05-2009, 02:46 PM	#53
LoDownM Retired Prolly. Posts: 11,296	Yes. Stop bitching because you don't see the indicator quick enough.

03-05-2009, 03:06 PM	#54
G Selectively Social Posts: 16,336	lol Kalyx flying off the handle

03-05-2009, 03:21 PM	#55
Blitz Angel Headed Hipster Posts: 37,942	It really isn't hard to avoid. Most of the weapons, you shouldn't be killing at too close a range anyways. And if you get killed once or twice by it in a match, that's enough to remind you to be wary. I got killed by it a lot when I started. But now it's second nature to me (most of the time) to not blindly charge over a just killed corpse. Yeah it kind of sucks if you're going around a corner and run into an martyrdomed enemy that a teammate just dropped or something, but shit like that happens in video games. And all the stuff about it disrupting tactical movement, well that's kind of the point, isn't it. I know I'm not gonna turn off any of my perks because it annoys my opponent. I want him off his game. That's like complaining about people throwing fireballs in Street Fighter because you can't walk across the screen anymore.

03-05-2009, 04:25 PM	#56
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	oh fuck i just typed up this big long fuvking repl on my stupid fucking but then i pressed clear one too many times and it all got fucked up. But yeah, I was also against you, Kalyx. YOu have no friends in this arguement

03-05-2009, 04:26 PM	#57
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	* stupid fucking phone

03-05-2009, 09:57 PM	#58
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Fuck you guys. And fuck RoXer's phone.

03-05-2009, 10:12 PM	#59
G Selectively Social Posts: 16,336	Don't you mean RoXy's phone.

03-05-2009, 10:14 PM	#60
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	That too. Fuck all phones!

03-07-2009, 11:21 PM	#62
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Yo... Silence.

03-07-2009, 11:24 PM	#63
G Selectively Social Posts: 16,336	Because there is nothing to discuss about this game. Fucking Blitz had to ruin it.

03-07-2009, 11:25 PM	#64
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	[ i ] [ /i ]

03-07-2009, 11:39 PM	#66
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	HTML lacks.

03-07-2009, 11:40 PM	#67
G Selectively Social Posts: 16,336	I don't know how to display UBB code, so HTML will do for my purpose.

03-07-2009, 11:42 PM	#68
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,950	Oh I see.

03-08-2009, 07:36 AM	#69
The Mackem VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT Posts: 38,940	Kalyx tiraDe

03-08-2009, 01:02 PM	#70
Mooияakeя� ▒▓▀▄WINNER▄▀▓▒ Posts: 5,070	AS long as the game is decent and they have a good PAM mod, everything is fine. The world will be a better place.

03-26-2009, 11:43 AM	#72
Blitz Angel Headed Hipster Posts: 37,942	Shoulda bumped the real topic

03-26-2009, 07:47 PM	#73
D Mac Posts: 21,603	11/10/2009 Too far away.

05-10-2009, 10:21 PM	#76
Blitz Angel Headed Hipster Posts: 37,942	G you are a bitch.

05-10-2009, 10:39 PM	#78
Blitz Angel Headed Hipster Posts: 37,942	Still a bitch.

05-10-2009, 10:43 PM	#79
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	what a baby stop whining

05-10-2009, 10:48 PM	#80
G Selectively Social Posts: 16,336	I'm a bit hesitant with joystiq's embed codes, because I'm not sure if the video is showing up for anyone else. After copying and pasting the code, it leaves "excess" code laying around. When I delete that, the video seems to disappear. So, it's like post their video with extra code sticking out, or nothing at all. Probably just me. Pretty sure it is.