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Old 05-25-2005, 08:39 PM   #5321
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Dazz do you reckon chelsea will let us have forsell
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Old 05-25-2005, 09:05 PM   #5322
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RBF reckons Pompey want him for 3.5 Million. I hope neither of you get him, I love him, he is class, if we loan him out I hope it's only till January, and then when injuries take their toll we'll have him around.

Hope we don't sell him.
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Old 05-25-2005, 09:50 PM   #5323
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what about parker then
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:17 PM   #5324
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He is as good as gone to Everton, I'd be suprised if that wasn't wrapped up soon, Jose wants him to stay, but will let him leave. He has been in talks with them and will go there for £6million soon, such a shame, he could have been the next Makelele

On other news I just remembered that me and Fabien Barthez (The poster on here obviously) had a £20 bet on who would win the Champions League I picked Juve and he picked Milan, so now I don't owe him shit
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:18 AM   #5325
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Well theres a torrent of the first half up:

http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp...ails&id=309328

They'll probably up the 2nd half later.

Also, good to see Dazz's reaction as I just read the response of one Chelse fan on skysports.com:

What can you say, the best team lost. Should Liverpool be allowed to defend it- NO. Rules are rules. they were not good enough to finish in a Champions League spot and were nearly 40 points behind the real Champions. Let them skulk in the Uefa Cup where they belong with the other second rate teams.
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Old 05-26-2005, 06:14 AM   #5326
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Good to see it Jonster, you are a rubbish football fan by your own admission, but it was such a good game to get into.
Completely true
Definately glad I watched it though.
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Old 05-26-2005, 06:49 AM   #5327
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Liverpool were linked with Stelios the other day, with Diouf going the other way to Bolton. Dunno about that :meh:

I dunno if they'll get Aimar cause since Ranieri left Valencia he's been playing again from what I understand. He would be a top player for them though.

Maybe they'll buy Owen back, lol
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Old 05-26-2005, 07:55 AM   #5328
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Well theres a torrent of the first half up:

http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp...ails&id=309328

They'll probably up the 2nd half later.

Also, good to see Dazz's reaction as I just read the response of one Chelse fan on skysports.com:

What can you say, the best team lost. Should Liverpool be allowed to defend it- NO. Rules are rules. they were not good enough to finish in a Champions League spot and were nearly 40 points behind the real Champions. Let them skulk in the Uefa Cup where they belong with the other second rate teams.
If I wasn't on a 56.6K modem I'd download that

And I hate the views of most Chelsea fans, I can see why people don't like us with idiots who say stuff like mentioned above. That Liverpool banner said it all 'Form is temporary, Class is permanent', not only because they are the Champions of Europe but also because of the teams they have beaten shows that the competition will be devalued next year without them. The team that wins the competition isn't as deserved as a team that comes fourth in their domestic league? How would that make sense.
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2nd half:

http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp...ails&id=310386

ET and penalties to go
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:27 AM   #5330
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I have faith in bruce but i am realistic and the best we can probably achieve is a uefa cup spot.

Since liverpool fans are in a good mood whats are your opinions of heskey
This is coming from a Leicester fan, but he's the man. Liverpool have been one of my favoured premiership sides though, and i always defended him then, they were a much better side with him and Owen, rather than Owen and Baros or whatever.

I know he was one of Birmingham's best players this season and he deserves it, top professional. He helped Leicester through administration and played for the same junior team as me, a good few years ahead of me but there's a match report and picture of him from when he was there in the bar.

As for Aimar, it would be great to see him in the premiership, have to see if Valencia's new manager rates him but he only takes over in the summer. He almost scored an amazing goal on Sunday though, did that cross which Kewell and Cristiano Ronaldo, in the Millwall cup final, have done, it went over the keeper, hit the inside of the post and bounced along the line and out
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:05 PM   #5331
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just a few points

first off, well done liverpool. They won the champions league on merit and hard graft, and completely deserved it.

secondly, is it just me who thinks that gerrard is the most overrated tosser on the face of the earth. Just look at the facts. If Shevchenko had scored his penalty, its likely that Gerrard would have been next for liverpool. Then whats the odds he would have missed? He's definitely quite inconsistent from the spot. If he'd missed and milan had won, then he would definitely have gone off to chelsea. But since they won, Liverpool are suddenly still good enough for him, the same man who scored an own goal against chelsea in the league cup and only performs when he wants to show the fans he still loves liverpool. maybe i'm being harsh but i really cannot stand him at the moment.

Then last but definitely not least, c'mon the neale cooper!
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:32 PM   #5332
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Stevie G apart from a few games at the end of the season has always given his all for this football club so that's complete crap.
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:43 PM   #5333
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Also, good to see Dazz's reaction as I just read the response of one Chelse fan on skysports.com:

What can you say, the best team lost. Should Liverpool be allowed to defend it- NO. Rules are rules. they were not good enough to finish in a Champions League spot and were nearly 40 points behind the real Champions. Let them skulk in the Uefa Cup where they belong with the other second rate teams.
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Old 05-26-2005, 04:25 PM   #5334
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The winners should always be allowed to defend their trophy. UEFA have fucked themslves over because they never thought this would happen again. Luckily for them the last time it happened, it happened with Real Madrid, since Madrid have the Spanish FA in their pockets and the decision was made for UEFA.

Liverpool should be in it next year, and they will be, I'm fairly certain.
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Yeah I can't see them not in it, and UEFA should chuck out Everton and put Liverpool in if they really don't want a fifth English team there. It's their competition not the FA's. Liverpool have got to be in it regardless IMO, no way the holders cannot defend their title, that really would devalue the competition.
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Everton should be in it. They played all season for their place knowing 4th position would get it. It cannot be taken away from them.

Liverpool simply have to be let in. Stick them in the qualifiers, give a few smaller teams a boost, the chance to play the European champions.
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I am just saying that IF we couldn't have a fifth team in it, UEFA should over rule the FA and let Liverpool in it. Liverpool are much more worthy of a Champions League place.

They both deserve it, I amjust saying though that if it had to be one, it would be criminal not to let it be Liverpool. I think half the reason the F.A picked Everton to go in it was because they were sure that if Liverpool won it UEFA would still let them in.
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UEFA will let them in. If they denied Everton a place it would be disgusting. They should both be there, but if one has to be sacrificed it has to be Liverpool because those were the existing rules.

But neither have to be.
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I am also very sure that UEFA will let them in, but come on, from UEFA's point of view it will definitely devalue the competition for them not to be in it. I hope that they say that they will make an exception next season, and after that if this event happens again then the 4th place team don't qualify.
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You can't do that, it's not fair giving the league teams a target to play for then make it dependent on what other teams do. Everton are out buying players now based on the fact they have a Champions League season ahead. It wouldn't be fair for a club to play all season and win a place, only to have it taken away because of what some other club does in an unrelated competition. The competitiveness of the league has to be protected. The simple matter is that a place should always be open for the winners of the tournament.
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Liverpool clearly should be allowed defend it but if it came down to Everton or them then Everton have to go in. They've worked harder for it fairness over a whole leauge season. It'll be fairly stupid have 25% of the premiership in it next year but it really has to be done.
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Well IF it had to be one or the other, Everton can go fuck themselves.

Whoever wins the Champions League next season will always wonder if they'd have done it if the Champions of Europe were there defending their crown. It would seriously devalue the competition, if Everton got to the quarters and played us and we won, I'd be happy, sure, but I'd still wonder if we'd be in the semi's if it was Liverpool we had to face. It takes something away from the competition, like we both say, Liverpool will be allowed in, just IF they weren't, it'd be in UEFA's interests to let the scouse in.

I don't think you can take it away from Everton, but then you can't from Liverpool either, UEFA have fucked up and must act very quickly.

If there is going to be any play-off at all between Liverpool and another team, it should be Liverpool and Everton. They should battle out against each other for the last English spot.
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No, fuck that. Everton earned their spot, they played a Premiership season for it.
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Oh that's right and Liverpool didn't earn their spot. They both earned the spot, they both deserve it, but if one can't get in it should be Everton, UEFA shouldn't have let the FA make the choice, you're right though, they can't now tell Everton they can't goin, so a fairer way would be a play off between the two sides, for our fourth spot.
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No, there shouldn't be a play off. Everton have already qualified. What can you not grasp about that concept? Everton's place is theirs, it has nothing to do with Liverpool.
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The fact that if it came to Liverpool not being in it at all it would be ludicrus. They cannot not be in it, someones place has to be contested, and if UEFA only want four English teams in it then it's gotta be Everton's.
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Nope, can't shift the posts now. It would have to be Liverpool's. If Everton were shifted out, it'd make me sick.
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If the Champions of Europe couldn't defend their crown because UEFA only let four teams in, I would be equally as disgusted as you would be if Everton were 'shifted out'.
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If Everton were dropped instead of Liverpool I'd be fucking pissed because noone deserves it more than them. To do what they have done this season is amazing. Liverpool had a great run in the biggest cup competition. Everton got it done week in week out in the League on a transfer budget swallowed up by probably a months wages of Roy Keane. David Moyes is the bigger miracle worker here.

I'm not belittling Liverpools achievement because obviously its fantastic and I've already said I'm as happy as a non Liverpool supporter can be for them but Everton completely and utterly deserve to be in there. If they get booted out for Liverpool Everton will never ever let this rest. The rules as shitty as they are were there and you can't just change them due to extreme circumstances at the cost of Everton. I agree there must be some sort of comprimise to allow Liverpool in and hopefully that can be found.
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Oh that's right and Liverpool didn't earn their spot. They both earned the spot, they both deserve it, but if one can't get in it should be Everton, UEFA shouldn't have let the FA make the choice, you're right though, they can't now tell Everton they can't goin, so a fairer way would be a play off between the two sides, for our fourth spot.
Why don't they just kick out Chelsea? Everton and Liverpool earnt their spots just as much as they did. UEFA fucked up and now they have to fix it. They'll probably take away a spot from a lower ranked league and enter more teams from that league into the UEFA cup.
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Because Chelsea are the Champions of England you sye. Everton are in the lowest qualifying position and so they should be the team in question.
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At the end of the day, everyone knew the top 4 qualify so Everton deserve their spot as much as Chelsea, Arsenal and Man U. It was just on the BBC news that apparently UEFA's webiste says the champions gain automatic qualification.
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Everton shouldn't be kicked out, they've got just as much right to be there as Liverpool. When you consider that Brazil have to qualify for the World Cup and then Liverpool failing to finish in a qualifying position over 38 games then Everton deserve it more. Everton missed out after winning the league because of the Heysel ban, it wouldn't be fair to chuck them out again.

If TNS are serious about offering Liverpool a play-off game for their spot in qualifying then i'd take that. Should be an easy win for Liverpool and if it's played at the Millenium Stadium as they are indicating then TNS would get more gate receipts than if they played someone from another small country.
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the FAW aren't allowing the TNS thing

anyway, a few weeks back i posted about how my mate at college who runs a paintball site and didn't have a clue about football had had the Liverpool team in after they played us and had shot Gerrard in the arse. I was just looking around and I found some pictures of it, although theres none of him getting shot


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Everton shouldn't be kicked out, they've got just as much right to be there as Liverpool. When you consider that Brazil have to qualify for the World Cup and then Liverpool failing to finish in a qualifying position over 38 games then Everton deserve it more. Everton missed out after winning the league because of the Heysel ban, it wouldn't be fair to chuck them out again.
Bollocks to the 'they were screwed because of Heysel', like anyone would give us pity that 50 years ago the F.A forced us to not enter the European Cup because they had a dispute with UEFA. Whats happened in the past has happened, it doesn't matter now, you canot take pity on something that happened 20 years ago.
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Well whatever, Everton should be there. Liverpool being a better side and club doesn't come into it when they finish 5th.
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You know thinking about it, Sunderland are champions, maybe they should be entered instead of Everton and Liverpool.
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