Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer) - Page 133

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 07:11 PM

I loved seeing the fans sing 'You Never Walk Alone' before the second half started. They are true class.

**Rob Ban Fan** · 05-25-2005, 07:12 PM

well said enjoy it

**soconnor** · 05-25-2005, 07:13 PM

Alonso is my favourite player. His footballing skills are sublime. Know my input is now ridiculousy drunk and unnecessary. However I'd like to give my fucking credit to Jersey Dudek who's had an up and down season, however his grobbelaar stunts was not only hillarious but amazing to. Know that Smicer, Baros and him might leave. They left a great impression though. Worked their hearts out.

**Rob Ban Fan** · 05-25-2005, 07:14 PM

liverpool fc = champions says:
i need a shit
liverpool fc = champions says:
but im too happy to have one lol
Igor Biscan European Champion says:

DANNY ELECTRIC

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 07:14 PM

Same with Didi Hamman to, it'll be sad if we let him go.

**Dazz** · 05-25-2005, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soconnor

Exactly, they are definitley top class guys. I'd like to think I'd be so respectful is Chelsea or Portsmouth did the same. I think I would. I only have a problem with Manchester United but I know loads of class people who support them. It's a game at the end of the day, with millionaire foreigners running the show. But we love it. True fucking fans who support the club, buy the season tickets and shirts. Whether we get fifth or win the champions league. Through thick and thin. Class fans. Enough to shake hands and admit that life isn't so bad. We'll be back whatever happens, every club gets another chance. Been an excellent season, ups and downs. So many downs but the finale was more than I could have ever asked for. Love this thread, respect to you all.

AWWWWW, you big gay. I know what you mean though, I like the fact that most football fans get along with each no matter who they support, I don't really have a problem with any team to be honest. Like I said when you lot beat us Socconor, I shok hands with a scouser and wished them luckin the final, did the same after the first leg too, I am genuinely pleased that others get to feel the joy that I would love to feel.

I was saying over at Rajah's how fickle United fans are who say that they'd support United no matter how bad they were, and no matter how much success Glazers brings they wouldn't care, yet they all snub the lap of honour because they had a shit season. That's not fucking football fans at all, I hate people that leave early, that don't clap their team off the pitch, and that only show interest when they are doing good. United have had it good for so fucking long they can't deal with it now, Liverpool and Chelsea fans have had a pretty shit decade (well pretty much a shit century for us) so they appreciate it more. Football is about so much more then winning, its about supporting your team no matter what, winning is an added bonus. When you lot done us 1-0 at our gaff last year, my Liverpool supporting mate ran up to me the next day and unzipped my jacket whilst saying about 'I bet I know what shirt you don't have on under there' and was shocked I had my Chelsea one on, what a twat, I wear it the day of and the day after EVERY game, regardless of the result, regardless of how well or bad we played or anything else.

There is so much more to football then winning, there really is, I wish that all football fans realise that, but you see from teams attendances when they aren't doing so well that this isn't the case, and it upsets me.

Fucking hell I wrote alot more then I wanted to, I have an exam tomorrow I am supposed to be revising for.

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 07:14 PM

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 07:16 PM

Good luck with your exam mate.

**Dazz** · 05-25-2005, 07:18 PM

Thanks, I was gunna revise after the game, thinking it would be easy to do so, but after seeing such a brilliant game of football, I simply cannot be fucked, really is no point revising, I tried half hour ago but I cannot take anything in.

**Rob Ban Fan** · 05-25-2005, 07:20 PM

yeah Dazz, you're the man.

It was like after the West Brom game where they had stayed up and we were all just joining in singing together and I had random half naked West Brom fans shaking my hand and saying thanks and people were swapping shirts and scarfs with people they'd never met and probably would never see again.

I don't really have a problem with Southampton fans, for me the rivalry is just a bit of banter and I obviously want us to beat them but they're just fans who love their club as much as I love mine and feel the same when they win or lose as I do when Pompey do. (However i fucking hate that lying cunt Redknapp and want them to do badly until he fucks off when they can come back up and we can get on with our rivalry)

**soconnor** · 05-25-2005, 07:21 PM

You stupid fuck, your exams are more important than that. Sure you'll do fine though mate. You were so respectful and modest when you lost against us in the champions league it's hard not to like you as a fan. You still won the premier and Carling off us so you can smile. Hope your hairdressing course goes well. All the best lad.

**Rob** · 05-25-2005, 07:21 PM

1 - Congrats Liverpool. As soon as I saw Gerrard score, I knew they'd win it. Didn't think Riise would miss a penalty though. I take back what I said about them being undeserving champions because they deserved their win tonight.

2 - As a United fan, I am not gonna lie like others (I'm sure some are truthful). I didn't want Liverpool to win, nor am I happy they won. Fair play to them for winning it and I'm glad their supports get a great night like I did when we beat Bayern but I'd rather they lost still. Oh well.

3 - Harry Kewell is the biggest poof I have ever seen. Never in my life have I seen a player do so little to win a medal. Not just in the final, during the whole champions league. Absolute fucking tosspot. Smicer and Hamann showed him up to no end.

4 - Don't care what anyone says, Dudek meant that last save.

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 07:21 PM

No use revising if you ain't gonna take anything in.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 05-25-2005, 07:23 PM

The most surprising part about the whole thing is just how many, let's be honest here, quite rubbish players Liverpool have in that Champions League side. Traore, Smicer, Baros, Dudek to an extent. Dudek was amazing when he was at Feyenoord and for Liverpool until the Forlan incidents.

Jamie Carragher is ridiculously improved from the utility bit-part full back and midfielder, Phil Neville-style player, he used to be. Just cannot believe how superb he has been this season. He deserves as much credit as John Terry.

Now that Gerrard is going to stay, Liverpool have an excellent basis for a genuinely good side under a great manager. Gerrard and Alonso are potentially the best midfield in the world. Up front, I'm not convinced by Cisse yet, but Morientes is top class. Shift Baros and get someone else in. Sinama-Pongolle looks a great little player.

Looks like Reina is coming in the summer already, but apart from him they do with another centre-back, a full back and a centre forward. Maybe another wide player, and revert Riise to full back again.

Aimar seems to be a strong running rumour. Then Benitez could play his Valencia formation with Gerrard, Alonso and Aimar playing in midfield and one up front.

Anyway, it'd be good if they build on this to become a side challenging for the title.

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 07:24 PM

I am so happy that Benitez is our manager.

**Rob Ban Fan** · 05-25-2005, 07:25 PM

yeah, during the match I was thinking that about Carragher and how a couple of season ago he was being kept out by Henchoz and occassionaly coming in to play at right or left back. He's had a very good season.

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 07:26 PM

Yeah I agree we need another centre-back, fair play to Sami for all the work over the years he has given us. He's getting on a bit and we need someone there. I'd like another full back to but I think Riise has done great in that position.

I always get the feeling that when Cisse is on the pitch that something will happen. That injury came at the wrong time for him, I still think he'll be great.

**soconnor** · 05-25-2005, 07:27 PM

Much respect you Rob. You're a great poster on the board but you're a man united fan so it was hard to connect with you. Glad you can admit we did deserve it because it was a fucking hectic ride. Know Man United will have a great shot at it next year. Now we can all relax and just enjoy it. Know Gerrard and Alonso are amazing, we need another solid centre back and a good left midfield. Also Cisse or Morientes needs to get into top form. A top class forward would be amazing. Shevchenko, you know you want to.

**Rob** · 05-25-2005, 07:27 PM

Gerrard, Carragher and Alonso were simply phenominal.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 05-25-2005, 07:29 PM

I think Djibril Cisse is another Guiv'arch. Mountains of goals in the French league, bit of a crap player. The joke about him last year was that his hairstyle added �6 million to his transfer fee: probably true.

Liverpool should take Diouf back. He's a cracking player. Bit of a cunt, but brilliant.

**Rob** · 05-25-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soconnor

Shevchenko, you know you want to.

What do you want with that dick? He can't even take a penalty!

**Rob** · 05-25-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto

I think Djibril Cisse is another Guiv'arch. Mountains of goals in the French league, bit of a crap player.

Nobody is that bad.

**#BROKEN Hasney** · 05-25-2005, 07:30 PM

I just watched some highlights again. this game was just a thing of beauty and easily game of the season. Really helped with the anti-climax of the FA Cup final

**Dazz** · 05-25-2005, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soconnor

You stupid fuck, your exams are more important than that. Sure you'll do fine though mate. You were so respectful and modest when you lost against us in the champions league it's hard not to like you as a fan. You still won the premier and Carling off us so you can smile. Hope your hairdressing course goes well. All the best lad.

Yes but I cannot revise, even when I try, its a 4pm exam so I have time tomorrow morning. You lol you should see the state of my hair right now

.

Like I have said all season though, the league is the one I wanted, I would obviously love the Champions League too, but if I had a choice it would have been the league, and we got it, so I am happy. I got to go to Cardiff, Nou Camp, Olympicstadion, St James' Park, Old Trafford, Anfield, and most importantly Fratton Park. I have had many a great experience this season, so I am not really upset that we weren't in the final, it's ours next season.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 05-25-2005, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney

I just watched some highlights again. this game was just a thing of beauty and easily game of the season. Really helped with the anti-climax of the FA Cup final

I thought the FA Cup final was a great game, myself. Rooney and Ronaldo showed just how scarily good they are on the big occasion.

Two great finals to round the season off. It's a pity the Lions were so shit on Monday.

**Dazz** · 05-25-2005, 07:33 PM

The Duck laughed at me like five years ago when I said Carragher should be right back ahead of Gary Neville, and I still stick by what I said. I have always thought he was class.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 05-25-2005, 07:35 PM

To be fair, Gary Neville is a better right back than him. Carragher has come into his own as a centre-back, he belongs there as a pure defender.

Gary Neville, for all the shit he gets, is a brilliant full back.

**Rob Ban Fan** · 05-25-2005, 07:35 PM

I've got my doubts about Cisse too but we'll wait and see.

If I was a Liverpool fan I wouldn't take Diouf back on principal, fucking loathsome cunt. I'd fuck him off to Spain or somewhere, just to get rid of him. He's a good player but he's a horrible person.

Thats something that really fucks me off about Bolton fans. Yes, fair enough he's a good player but the way they're so far up his arse going on about how pathetic the way he's treated is and giving it all the "we're not worthy" and egging him on when he dives and cheats.

I can honestly say if he played for us I wouldn't cheer the cunt. I wouldn't boo him because I don't boo Pompey players but I wouldn't cheer the cunt (unless he scored but i cant help that )

**packt up** · 05-25-2005, 07:38 PM

Shev was good tonight Dazz sheesh whats a man got to do to impress you. His goal was pretty comfortably level I thought and he set up the second.

Alonso is class and has been throughout the season. And I also agree that Smicer and Baros gave their all. Particularly Baros who slaved away when the going wasn't quite so good for Liverpool. And a great way for Smicer to sign off.

**Rob** · 05-25-2005, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Electric

Same with Didi Hamman to, it'll be sad if we let him go.

Apparently, he has signed a deal or will be signing one within a week with Bolton.

**Karlsberg** · 05-25-2005, 07:42 PM

I aint the biggest liverpool fan by any means but i offer my congratulations. I just hope your fans cherish this and dont take it for granted remember many clubs including my own will never have this experience.

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 07:42 PM

I would have liked if he stayed, I think he's a great player to have on the bench and he's done great for us.

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlsberg

I aint the biggest liverpool fan by any means but i offer my congratulations. I just hope your fans cherish this and dont take it for granted remember many clubs including my own will never have this experience.

Have faith in Stevie Bruce

**Dazz** · 05-25-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto

To be fair, Gary Neville is a better right back than him. Carragher has come into his own as a centre-back, he belongs there as a pure defender.

Gary Neville, for all the shit he gets, is a brilliant full back.

Wayne Bridge is as good as Gary Neville, and they are both not worthy of being first choice defenders. Neville always has someone good inside him, and I absolutely hate the way they both don't pick up the wide man till he has the ball, and it then gives them time to run at them, cross it or do something else. I seriously don't see Gary Neville as a great right back, I see him as a Carlos like player, average at the back, but a helluva lot better attacking, Gary Neville's crosses and passing is the only thing thats that good about his game. And his leadership skills but I am talking purely about on the actual football ability

**packt up** · 05-25-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto

I think Djibril Cisse is another Guiv'arch.

He scored against Liverpool

Open goal and he just about got it in off the post. Also went on to lose 4-1. Good times.

**Dazz** · 05-25-2005, 07:50 PM

He had a quality shot against us in October that either hit the post or went just wide, think it went just wide, but he was playing really well that game. I like him.

**Rob** · 05-25-2005, 08:14 PM

I'm not sold on Gerrard staying at Liverpool now. They are hardly going to do any better than this and without 4 or 5 players, they won't challenge for the league. Maybe he thinks this is his Liverpool peak and wants to move on to Man United.

Okay, the last part was a dream.

**Karlsberg** · 05-25-2005, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Electric

Have faith in Stevie Bruce

I have faith in bruce but i am realistic and the best we can probably achieve is a uefa cup spot.

Since liverpool fans are in a good mood whats are your opinions of heskey

**Dazz** · 05-25-2005, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob

I'm not sold on Gerrard staying at Liverpool now. They are hardly going to do any better than this and without 4 or 5 players, they won't challenge for the league. Maybe he thinks this is his Liverpool peak and wants to move on to Man United.

Okay, the last part was a dream.

I said to my mates at the start of the match that I think that Gerrards decision to stay wouldn't be influenced on tonights game. Rafa will sit him down, ask him to wait till July when the transfers have largely been done, and then try to persaude him to stay. If Gerrard leaves before the end of July I will be shocked.

**Danny Electric** · 05-25-2005, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlsberg

I have faith in bruce but i am realistic and the best we can probably achieve is a uefa cup spot.

Since liverpool fans are in a good mood whats are your opinions of heskey

Seriously, he falls down to easy but he always gave a good show and his hold up play was awesome. I have nothinga gainst him and I'm happy that he's done well at your place.

05-25-2005, 07:11 PM	#5281
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	I loved seeing the fans sing 'You Never Walk Alone' before the second half started. They are true class.

05-25-2005, 07:12 PM	#5282
Rob Ban Fan Rt Hon Ed Balls MP Posts: 9,004	well said enjoy it

05-25-2005, 07:13 PM	#5283
soconnor just 4 U Posts: 6,311	Alonso is my favourite player. His footballing skills are sublime. Know my input is now ridiculousy drunk and unnecessary. However I'd like to give my fucking credit to Jersey Dudek who's had an up and down season, however his grobbelaar stunts was not only hillarious but amazing to. Know that Smicer, Baros and him might leave. They left a great impression though. Worked their hearts out.

05-25-2005, 07:14 PM	#5284
Rob Ban Fan Rt Hon Ed Balls MP Posts: 9,004	liverpool fc = champions says: i need a shit liverpool fc = champions says: but im too happy to have one lol Igor Biscan European Champion says: DANNY ELECTRIC

05-25-2005, 07:14 PM	#5285
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Same with Didi Hamman to, it'll be sad if we let him go.

05-25-2005, 07:14 PM	#5287
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956

05-25-2005, 07:16 PM	#5288
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Good luck with your exam mate.

05-25-2005, 07:18 PM	#5289
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	Thanks, I was gunna revise after the game, thinking it would be easy to do so, but after seeing such a brilliant game of football, I simply cannot be fucked, really is no point revising, I tried half hour ago but I cannot take anything in.

05-25-2005, 07:20 PM	#5290
Rob Ban Fan Rt Hon Ed Balls MP Posts: 9,004	yeah Dazz, you're the man. It was like after the West Brom game where they had stayed up and we were all just joining in singing together and I had random half naked West Brom fans shaking my hand and saying thanks and people were swapping shirts and scarfs with people they'd never met and probably would never see again. I don't really have a problem with Southampton fans, for me the rivalry is just a bit of banter and I obviously want us to beat them but they're just fans who love their club as much as I love mine and feel the same when they win or lose as I do when Pompey do. (However i fucking hate that lying cunt Redknapp and want them to do badly until he fucks off when they can come back up and we can get on with our rivalry)

05-25-2005, 07:21 PM	#5291
soconnor just 4 U Posts: 6,311	You stupid fuck, your exams are more important than that. Sure you'll do fine though mate. You were so respectful and modest when you lost against us in the champions league it's hard not to like you as a fan. You still won the premier and Carling off us so you can smile. Hope your hairdressing course goes well. All the best lad.

05-25-2005, 07:21 PM	#5292
Rob Part time poster Posts: 22,963	1 - Congrats Liverpool. As soon as I saw Gerrard score, I knew they'd win it. Didn't think Riise would miss a penalty though. I take back what I said about them being undeserving champions because they deserved their win tonight. 2 - As a United fan, I am not gonna lie like others (I'm sure some are truthful). I didn't want Liverpool to win, nor am I happy they won. Fair play to them for winning it and I'm glad their supports get a great night like I did when we beat Bayern but I'd rather they lost still. Oh well. 3 - Harry Kewell is the biggest poof I have ever seen. Never in my life have I seen a player do so little to win a medal. Not just in the final, during the whole champions league. Absolute fucking tosspot. Smicer and Hamann showed him up to no end. 4 - Don't care what anyone says, Dudek meant that last save.

05-25-2005, 07:21 PM	#5293
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	No use revising if you ain't gonna take anything in.

05-25-2005, 07:23 PM	#5294
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	The most surprising part about the whole thing is just how many, let's be honest here, quite rubbish players Liverpool have in that Champions League side. Traore, Smicer, Baros, Dudek to an extent. Dudek was amazing when he was at Feyenoord and for Liverpool until the Forlan incidents. Jamie Carragher is ridiculously improved from the utility bit-part full back and midfielder, Phil Neville-style player, he used to be. Just cannot believe how superb he has been this season. He deserves as much credit as John Terry. Now that Gerrard is going to stay, Liverpool have an excellent basis for a genuinely good side under a great manager. Gerrard and Alonso are potentially the best midfield in the world. Up front, I'm not convinced by Cisse yet, but Morientes is top class. Shift Baros and get someone else in. Sinama-Pongolle looks a great little player. Looks like Reina is coming in the summer already, but apart from him they do with another centre-back, a full back and a centre forward. Maybe another wide player, and revert Riise to full back again. Aimar seems to be a strong running rumour. Then Benitez could play his Valencia formation with Gerrard, Alonso and Aimar playing in midfield and one up front. Anyway, it'd be good if they build on this to become a side challenging for the title.

05-25-2005, 07:24 PM	#5295
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	I am so happy that Benitez is our manager.

05-25-2005, 07:25 PM	#5296
Rob Ban Fan Rt Hon Ed Balls MP Posts: 9,004	yeah, during the match I was thinking that about Carragher and how a couple of season ago he was being kept out by Henchoz and occassionaly coming in to play at right or left back. He's had a very good season.

05-25-2005, 07:26 PM	#5297
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Yeah I agree we need another centre-back, fair play to Sami for all the work over the years he has given us. He's getting on a bit and we need someone there. I'd like another full back to but I think Riise has done great in that position. I always get the feeling that when Cisse is on the pitch that something will happen. That injury came at the wrong time for him, I still think he'll be great.

05-25-2005, 07:27 PM	#5298
soconnor just 4 U Posts: 6,311	Much respect you Rob. You're a great poster on the board but you're a man united fan so it was hard to connect with you. Glad you can admit we did deserve it because it was a fucking hectic ride. Know Man United will have a great shot at it next year. Now we can all relax and just enjoy it. Know Gerrard and Alonso are amazing, we need another solid centre back and a good left midfield. Also Cisse or Morientes needs to get into top form. A top class forward would be amazing. Shevchenko, you know you want to.

05-25-2005, 07:27 PM	#5299
Rob Part time poster Posts: 22,963	Gerrard, Carragher and Alonso were simply phenominal.

05-25-2005, 07:29 PM	#5300
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	I think Djibril Cisse is another Guiv'arch. Mountains of goals in the French league, bit of a crap player. The joke about him last year was that his hairstyle added �6 million to his transfer fee: probably true. Liverpool should take Diouf back. He's a cracking player. Bit of a cunt, but brilliant.

05-25-2005, 07:30 PM	#5303
#BROKEN Hasney BAY BAY Posts: 36,524	I just watched some highlights again. this game was just a thing of beauty and easily game of the season. Really helped with the anti-climax of the FA Cup final

05-25-2005, 07:33 PM	#5306
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	The Duck laughed at me like five years ago when I said Carragher should be right back ahead of Gary Neville, and I still stick by what I said. I have always thought he was class.

05-25-2005, 07:35 PM	#5307
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	To be fair, Gary Neville is a better right back than him. Carragher has come into his own as a centre-back, he belongs there as a pure defender. Gary Neville, for all the shit he gets, is a brilliant full back.

05-25-2005, 07:35 PM	#5308
Rob Ban Fan Rt Hon Ed Balls MP Posts: 9,004	I've got my doubts about Cisse too but we'll wait and see. If I was a Liverpool fan I wouldn't take Diouf back on principal, fucking loathsome cunt. I'd fuck him off to Spain or somewhere, just to get rid of him. He's a good player but he's a horrible person. Thats something that really fucks me off about Bolton fans. Yes, fair enough he's a good player but the way they're so far up his arse going on about how pathetic the way he's treated is and giving it all the "we're not worthy" and egging him on when he dives and cheats. I can honestly say if he played for us I wouldn't cheer the cunt. I wouldn't boo him because I don't boo Pompey players but I wouldn't cheer the cunt (unless he scored but i cant help that )

05-25-2005, 07:38 PM	#5309
packt up Posts: 3,460	Shev was good tonight Dazz sheesh whats a man got to do to impress you. His goal was pretty comfortably level I thought and he set up the second. Alonso is class and has been throughout the season. And I also agree that Smicer and Baros gave their all. Particularly Baros who slaved away when the going wasn't quite so good for Liverpool. And a great way for Smicer to sign off.

05-25-2005, 07:42 PM	#5311
Karlsberg R.I.P Latino Heat Posts: 304	I aint the biggest liverpool fan by any means but i offer my congratulations. I just hope your fans cherish this and dont take it for granted remember many clubs including my own will never have this experience.

05-25-2005, 07:42 PM	#5312
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	I would have liked if he stayed, I think he's a great player to have on the bench and he's done great for us.

05-25-2005, 07:50 PM	#5316
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	He had a quality shot against us in October that either hit the post or went just wide, think it went just wide, but he was playing really well that game. I like him.

05-25-2005, 08:14 PM	#5317
Rob Part time poster Posts: 22,963	I'm not sold on Gerrard staying at Liverpool now. They are hardly going to do any better than this and without 4 or 5 players, they won't challenge for the league. Maybe he thinks this is his Liverpool peak and wants to move on to Man United. Okay, the last part was a dream.