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Old 02-03-2022, 08:43 AM   #521
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One of the stories going around is that, because of how involvement Shane had in restructuring the Rumble, they changed Bad Bunny's entrance number multiple times.

That meant that, presumably, they were changing who he was scheduled to be in the ring with and exactly what he'd be able to do. This is frustrating for a wrestler, but downright unsafe when you're dealing with a non-wrestler that needs prep time and to be carried through their part in the match.

On top of that, there seems to be a feeling that it made WWE look unprofessional in the eyes of a major outside star and his people.
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Old 02-03-2022, 09:39 AM   #522
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Bad Bunny looked better than Shane, hands down. Fuck a number.
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Old 02-03-2022, 09:41 AM   #523
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Bad Bunny could legit be a rassler if he wanted.
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Old 02-03-2022, 10:23 AM   #524
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Shane fucking sucks. Not sure why anyone would be excited to see him "wrestle".

Only appeal he's ever had was his willingness to jump off high places. Which is very unlikely to ever happen again given his age. Dude was gassed just walking to the ring. Think if he had done his signature shuffle he would have had a stroke right there.
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Old 02-03-2022, 10:53 AM   #525
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Shane after 2000 is completely unwatchable
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Old 02-03-2022, 12:12 PM   #526
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Theyre not a non-profit, there is no reason to employ 300 people if 100 people provide the same results. It is absolutely shitty, but but businesswise it is the right move.
in what way is that shitty? if an employee isnt producing enough value to jusitfy their wages why is it shitty to let them go?

Furthermore it doesnt even look like thats whats happening. as you said Wyatt was generating revenue and they still let him go so this notion is shaky from the start.

the reality is spendable operating budgets are getting tighter. the currency has a lower purchasing power (both goods and services cost more to obtain, logistics take a larger percentage of availble operating expenses [and with a touring troupe this hits you from three or four different angles since you have factors like fuel and labor and the like all hitting you directly AND indirectly] etc) and doubly these issues effect your employees as well so you already know wages are going to have to go up when contracts get renegotiated since the employees spendable income has also been impacted. so they have the future increased payroll expense to plan for as well which of course further decreases your spendable operating budget.

then theres the unknown value of R&D of potential new market possibilities that is a completely invisible budgetary value that large companies are always experimenting with one thing or another that in most cases come up as pure loss. the wwe could be looking market potential in a promising avenue that at the present is pure cost that we dont see in slightest. things like video games, the network app, the film studio and developmental territories all started in this phase and at any given time they could have something brewering thats taxing their operating budgets.

tl;dr at a time when the currency is worth less and operating expenses are ballooning to hear people gloat about company X's profits just shows how little they understand about money (let alone business) on a truly fundamental level. $1 dollar today is not $1 tomorrow. they have the economic grasp of a toddler.
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Old 02-03-2022, 12:41 PM   #527
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I didn't watch the Rumble. i was going to, but then realized Sunday morning that it already aired lol.

But when i read the results and saw Shane McMahon was the 2nd to last person eliminated, I just shook my head and was glad i didn't watch it. That right there is WWE in a nutshell. A 52 year old guy who hasn't been relevant in forever booking himself in a primary spot in the 2nd biggest PPV of the year. Like how does that even happen? What a mess
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Old 02-03-2022, 12:56 PM   #529
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Nah bruh the street fights with Vince at Mania and with Angle at King of the Ring in 2001 were fantastic

Then he started getting on my nerves during the invasion and I think I was out by the time Kane shocked his testicles
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That's right! I couldn't remember if Angle was 2000 or 2001.
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shane is unquestionably the single greatest part time worker the business has ever seen...to be as good as he is... working as much as he has...well its all moot. its nepotism and self aggrandizing and we all know it. he didnt earn anything.

and thats why the sight of him in these positions is so sour. it speaks against the notion hard work will allow you to make something of yourself because he's absorbing spots of guys working hard year round. its why everyone hated jeff jarrett so much back in the day in early TNA. his work was perfectly fine. to the level of his position even. but when he has the pen it insults us on a human level. shane is that x10.
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Is he though? He doesn't really have wrestling matches. He has garbage stunt shows. Anyone can guided through that kind of performance. He's had one actual wrestling match that I can remember. Yes it was good, but it was against AJ Styles, a guy who could probably carry wcw Powerplant wrestlers to a good match.
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if not him then who
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I guess that would depend on who you classify as part time.

If rousey counts I would absolutely put her above Shane. Rough around the edges yes, but far FAR better than she has any right to be given her experience, and her work looks far better due to the physicality she applies it with.
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maybe in time id give you that. shes only got a year under her. but she could pass him for sure
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She's times better than him, save jumping off some high up place or getting thrown through the glass by Angle.


Those are the only things I think of when I hear "Shane" (well, maybe The Walking Dead too). There was a time where the stuff he did would be classified as "backyard crap".
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she's very difficult for me to watch. shes dangerous and if she wasnt so over her natural instincts wpuld not play well. she basically makes the wrong call everytime but she has so much real world credibility that she gets over depsite these giant eye sore matches. shes "pretty bad" fundamentally but i def think she could get really good in time.
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She looks better "in the ring" than Shane. Period.
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i have to look away when she works. its so green it hurts my eyes
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Yeah again, I think it also depends on what you'd define as a "worker".

When I hear the word, I can't really disconnect it from working an actual wrestling match, and not just someone who works for a wrestling promotion and performs in some capacity.

I think the more accurate description for me, would be that Shane is the greatest part time attraction in wrestling history. Because that's all he really is.

It's just that when you hear guys described as great workers, their ability to almost kill themselves in ridiculous stunts never enters the conversation.
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i have to look away when she works. its so green it hurts my eyes
I mean you actually wrestled and were trained, so it likely stands out a lot more to you. To someone like me it's noticeable but not enough that its deal breaking. And again while it's rough and possibly dangerous it also looks real. Which is s breath of fresh air in wwe's women's division where 90% of the action looks as fake as a plea from a Nigerian prince.
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Yeah again, I think it also depends on what you'd define as a "worker".

When I hear the word, I can't really disconnect it from working an actual wrestling match, and not just someone who works for a wrestling promotion and performs in some capacity.

I think the more accurate description for me, would be that Shane is the greatest part time attraction in wrestling history. Because that's all he really is.

It's just that when you hear guys described as great workers, their ability to almost kill themselves in ridiculous stunts never enters the conversation.
yeah i dont mean workrate at all. i see the disconnect. worker to me is a person who works marks. work: to elicite reaction.
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I mean you actually wrestled and were trained, so it likely stands out a lot more to you. To someone like me it's noticeable but not enough that its deal breaking. And again while it's rough and possibly dangerous it also looks real. Which is s breath of fresh air in wwe's women's division where 90% of the action looks as fake as a plea from a Nigerian prince.
i think she's a great act that just needs time. her credibility is sorely needed.
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Shane is getting a rough rep as a worker in here. There have been full-time guys that can not be pulled through what he has. It’s getting tarred with the same brush as death match wrestling, but it really isn’t the same thing. And I think people should go back and watch his earlier work. He drew people into his work. His match against Test is still thought of fondly.

They’re not clinical masterpieces, but to say anyone could do them is a bit much. I saw someone say AJ Styles could drag a good match out of a WCW PowerPlant rookie. Well, there’s him and Omos. And I’m going to catch flack for saying this, but I’ve always thought that the Styles/Owens chemistry was flat too.

Shane’s work does require skill. He was a pretty great character at one point in time. People have sincerely loved/hated him. He got people to care about Steve Blackman at one point.
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No one's saying he wasnt a great entertainer. Just that a 50 something businessman should probably just go home and be a family man instead of entering a royal rumble.
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let alone hogging the last eliminated spot which is inexcusable
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No one's saying he wasnt a great entertainer. Just that a 50 something businessman should probably just go home and be a family man instead of entering a royal rumble.
yeah this. Shane hasn't really bothered me until the Rumble. He's been in a lot of the "filler spots" on cards and I don't mind that. Miz, Owens, Styles...I was cool with all that. It made sense. But the way he booked himself in the Rumble was just ridiculous. He should of just came in early or midway did a spot with some other midcarder (I've heard the Theory rumors) he was going to have a singles with and be done. Not be in the final 3 just because he wanted it that way lol
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BTW, X-pac/Shane Wrestlemania 15 was my fav match of his. Great storyline heading into that one
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Yeah X-Pac/Shane was dope

X-Pac was so fucking good, still not sure why they felt the need to add him to the nWo for the HOF to make him a "two time inductee" when he was more than deserving to be inducted on his own
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Loved the Shane WM15 match for what it was. Of course when you have Rock v Austin as the main event, even though it wasn't their best match, everything is going to get overshadowed.
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No one's saying he wasnt a great entertainer. Just that a 50 something businessman should probably just go home and be a family man instead of entering a royal rumble.
I couldn’t remember who posted what I was responding to, but it turns out they were both yours, lol.

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Shane fucking sucks. Not sure why anyone would be excited to see him "wrestle".

Only appeal he's ever had was his willingness to jump off high places. Which is very unlikely to ever happen again given his age. Dude was gassed just walking to the ring. Think if he had done his signature shuffle he would have had a stroke right there.
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Is he though? He doesn't really have wrestling matches. He has garbage stunt shows. Anyone can guided through that kind of performance. He's had one actual wrestling match that I can remember. Yes it was good, but it was against AJ Styles, a guy who could probably carry wcw Powerplant wrestlers to a good match.
That assessment is just a bit much. You’re entitled to not like the guy, but I think he is obviously a bit better than that. Maybe you’re just being colorful to register a point?
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But when i read the results and saw Shane McMahon was the 2nd to last person eliminated, I just shook my head and was glad i didn't watch it.
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Remember when Hunter had reservations about Chyna going into the Hall of Fame because of her adult career?
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Someone mentioned in here about Nick Kahn being Vince's son now and honestly after this whole debacle with Shane, I wouldn't mind seeing a story build where Kahn takes an on air role driving Vince more and more away from his family and trying to grasp control of WWE. That dude has heel written all over him
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Ugh I had those exact feelings, was soo pumped when they cut that small promo between the 2 matches.
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