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Old 04-10-2021, 03:43 AM   #361
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a porn website once sent Vince a fruit basket as thanks for the time WWE accidentally gave free exposure to their company by naming the group of Becky Lynch, Charlotte, and Paige as the "Submission Sorority" during the early days of the Women's Revolution storyline.

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Lynch went on to speak about the original name for herself, Charlotte Flair and Paige as they were initially known as the “Submission Sorority”. That was the name of a porn site and the site sent Vince McMahon a fruit basket for the traffic he sent over.

"Well, when I first came up to the main roster in the women’s evolution, they wanted to call myself, Paige and Charlotte [Flair] the Submission Sorority. Turns out that was a porn site. Said porn site sent Vince McMahon a fruit basket, for all the traffic that Vince sent them. So there’s that."
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Totally forgot about that, but when you pair all 3 of em together like that...
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Old 04-10-2021, 01:48 PM   #363
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According to the Observer, NBC's scrub job for the WWE Network recently removed segments involving Goldust wearing black face paint from late 90s WWF shows.



Don't remember him ever doing it as an insult or joke but that shows how hard NBC is cracking down on blackface content on the WWE Network.
How does that work? We know from Piper he was 50% blackface and got edited out. Is there a certain percentage? Is Legion of Doom going to get edited? Hawk was probably 20% blackface. Ronda had more than normal black eye shadow at Summerslam 2018, that was like 3% at least.

Boogeyman had black face paint, although I think he is African American.

Umaga was probably 30% black face paint, and portrayed a savage. Is that alright though since he is a minority?

Sting after 1996 no longer exists, and maybe that is why we haven't seen Demon Balor in 2 years?

Lastly, what about that whole time Undertaker had that little black tear on his face. It wasn't a real tattoo, does that half of a percent result in removal?
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Old 04-10-2021, 01:55 PM   #364
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How does that work? We know from Piper he was 50% blackface and got edited out. Is there a certain percentage? Is Legion of Doom going to get edited? Hawk was probably 20% blackface. Ronda had more than normal black eye shadow at Summerslam 2018, that was like 3% at least.

Boogeyman had black face paint, although I think he is African American.

Umaga was probably 30% black face paint, and portrayed a savage. Is that alright though since he is a minority?

Sting after 1996 no longer exists, and maybe that is why we haven't seen Demon Balor in 2 years?

Lastly, what about that whole time Undertaker had that little black tear on his face. It wasn't a real tattoo, does that half of a percent result in removal?
I remember he did it I think in 98 with the "F-U" painted in gold on top of his black face paint.

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I remember Adnan from theScore. Same place as Renee Paquette.
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lol didn't he get fired from ESPN for leaking information?
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Yeah

Corey Graves headed back to RAW. Team will be Adnan-Graves-Saxton starting on Monday. Tom Phillips not expected to call WM either due to Covid interaction.
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Old 04-10-2021, 05:18 PM   #369
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Rather have Samoa Joe stay on commentary than Graves be his replacement, especially if this leads to him eventually going back to his old routine of being very annoying and obnoxious on commentary.

At least on Smackdown, he was kept in check by Cole and didn't have a third person around to be the target of his insults and nagging.
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Old 04-11-2021, 12:18 AM   #370
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This is going to be amazing. All my questions answered.
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Old 04-12-2021, 04:05 PM   #372
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Old 04-12-2021, 04:40 PM   #373
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The international commentary being cut sucks. Feels like a big fuck you to the global audience.
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Old 04-12-2021, 05:00 PM   #374
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I wish they had a live audience tonight. I'm on a Mania high, I'd like to watch but I don't think I could make it through 3 hours of WWE Battleground. Is that what they call it? I can't do it. If they have people live for NXT why won't the put some fans in for Raw and Smackdown or PPV's?
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:37 PM   #375
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Why do backstage 'my guest at this time' interviewers just stare at wrestlers walking away at the end of interviews...why don't they just say 'back to you'

Has to be some weird Vince thing
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:17 PM   #376
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I am guessing Bray's new thing is his previous gimmick (Fiend) was the Hurt so his new gimmick (Televangelist) will be the Heal
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1:33:00....AJ impersonating Stone Cold is what you need today!!
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Anyone know if Peacock will update the way WWE events and programs are listed in the future? It's unbearable.
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Supposedly not until at least August by which point they should have all of the Network stuff loaded and will then re-organize a bunch of it.
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In compliance with SEC regulations, WWE filed a proxy statement Tuesday prior to their impending annual shareholder meeting -- the contents of which revealed last year's compensation for their directors and their board including president and chief revenue officer Nick Khan, Vince McMahon, Stephanie McMahon and Paul Levesque.

Nick Khan
  • Last year, Khan earned $13 million, made up of a prorated base $498,462 salary; $6.8 million in stock; $471,823 in incentives; and $5.19 million in other compensation (signing bonus). His base pay for 2021 will be $1.2 million in addition to $1.9 million in performance incentives.
  • The bonus is subject to repayment requirements if he leaves "without good reason" or is fired. If that was to happen within the first year, he has to repay all of it; between 12-24 months: $3.1 million; and between 24-36 months: $1.2 million.
  • He also received a signing bonus of performance-based stock units valued at $15 million. 40% of those PSUs will vest in September 2022 with the other 60% vesting in 2025. Also worked into his contract is that if he is fired without cause in those first five years, he gets the remainder of his yearly base for however many years are left on the deal. He also would be subject to repaying relocation expenses if he leaves on his own or is fired without cause in his first 12 months.

Vince McMahon
  • The chairman earned $3.9+ million in 2020 made up of $1.4 in base salary, $1.63 million in stock awards, $854,000 in incentives, and $20,000 in other compensations. That total is down from 2018's $5.6+ million and 2019's $3.5+ million.
  • As CEO, McMahon's total compensation was a 38-to-1 ratio of the total compensation for the median WWE employee ($102,577). That ratio disclosure is required by the SEC.
  • McMahon and his immediate family also gets use of the company jet for personal travel when it's not being used for business. However, any costs in doing so are paid for by him so WWE doesn’t have to cover it.
  • He also owns 92.3% of the company's Class B shares.

Paul Levesque
  • Levesque earned $2.38+ million last year with a $730,000 base, $464,778 in stock awards, $222,650 in incentives and just under $1 million in other compensation which was his performance and merchandise contract. The number is down from 2018's $5 million and from 2019's $3.3 million.

Stephanie McMahon
  • McMahon earned $2.8+ million on a $730,000 base, $464,778 in stock, $222,650 in incentives, $775,723 in other compensation for her performer/merchandise contract. The number is slightly up from 2019’s $2.07 million.

Other Notes:
  • Shane McMahon has a performer's deal that paid him a minimum of $820,369.
  • Both Connor Schell (former ESPN EVP, co-creator of 30 for 30) and Steve Koonin (CEO of the NBA's Atlanta Hawks and the State Farm Arena) were announced as members of their Board.
  • Of Board members, the highest compensation of cash and stock was Jeff Speed at $236,384 followed by Stuart Goldfarb at $224,516 and Laureen Ong at $208,884.
  • WWE paid CAA $5.8 million last year "for commissions on certain licenses and management recruitment fees." CAA was Khan's old agency where he negotiated the various TV contracts.
  • Investment firm Lindsell Train Limited owns 23% of Class A shares, followed by Vanguard Group and BlackRock that both have significant holdings in WWE.
  • Officers and directors own a combined 41% of both Class A and B shares.
  • Their management incentive plan (MIP) payouts (between 50-100% of salary) are based on a point system on the following personal and company-wide performance metrics: 40% strategic objectives (viewership with a benchmark of certain key TV ratings); 40% for the next iteration of WWE Network (acquiring a domestic network license); 10% for sponsorship business opportunities; and 10% for brand strength measurements (increasing WWE ratings among sports fans). Based on that, funding for those payouts was down to a 5.0 for an overall score, down from 6.7 in 2019 and 8.7 in 2018. That meant there was less money given out to executives for performance bonuses.
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Odds of Mania week being a super spreader event for the coronavirus just rose since one person already confirmed they tested positive for it and had attended several WWE and indie shows.



If I had to guess, this person likely caught it at one of GCW's shows since it seems GCW was irresponsible again with their handling of COVID precautions during their Collective shows based on stuff going around online from people who were there.
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I know what you mean.

Was also odd to see a high profile name like Jon Moxley show up at the end to do a spot with Nick Cage. Seemed unnecessary.
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Reddit is generally positive about everything, so many upvotes and comments I agree with
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RAW comes across as a weekly obligation rather than coherent storytelling.
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Old 04-14-2021, 06:12 PM   #385
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I haven't watched this week's episode yet, but I agree with that redditor. RAW has been shit lately.
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Old 04-14-2021, 06:23 PM   #386
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It's sad that they couldn't incorporate their new champions on the show.
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Old 04-14-2021, 06:29 PM   #387
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I agree that Smackdown has been the better show lately
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Yeah Smackdown has been a much better show than RAW at least since last year's SummerSlam.

Been speculated for a while that the reason why there is such a big gap in quality between the two shows is due to Vince fearing upsetting FOX way more than USA Network. Without FOX, WWE might not have been able to get the multi-billion deal they have from their current tv contracts and prior to them selling off their FOX Studios, FOX was notorious for being very trigger happy when it came to cancelling shows that didn't meet their expectations. That was also the reason why Vince freaked out over the idea of WWE not being able to produce new weekly shows early into the pandemic since he thought that would give FOX an excuse to rip up the contract.
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Anyone know if Peacock will update the way WWE events and programs are listed in the future? It's unbearable.
Yeah it's dumb they have PPV's listed as seasons.

If I wamted to watch the 2001 Survivor Series, I have to figure out which "Season" 2001 was, when they could just list it as, I dunno, 2001...
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So 3 out of the 4 wrestling shows he watches keeps him interested in wrestling? What a solid take, thanks for sharing Slik. How else could we have possibly known some guy from Reddit likes NXT, AEW, and Smackdown enough to keep watching wrestling even though he doesn't like Raw
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Old 04-14-2021, 09:26 PM   #391
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Yeah Smackdown has been a much better show than RAW at least since last year's SummerSlam.

Been speculated for a while that the reason why there is such a big gap in quality between the two shows is due to Vince fearing upsetting FOX way more than USA Network. Without FOX, WWE might not have been able to get the multi-billion deal they have from their current tv contracts and prior to them selling off their FOX Studios, FOX was notorious for being very trigger happy when it came to cancelling shows that didn't meet their expectations. That was also the reason why Vince freaked out over the idea of WWE not being able to produce new weekly shows early into the pandemic since he thought that would give FOX an excuse to rip up the contract.
Oh I agree 100%. Pre-Disney Fox was notorious for sending shows to the chopping block before they really had a chance to get going. I think WWE would have been ok either way because it was already a well established brand. I was always under the impression they had different writers for shows. I could be wrong on that.
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Think they still do but instead of separate creative teams, they merged them back together with Bruce Prichard in charge.

Around the time Paul Heyman got removed as RAW Executive Director is when they merged back together.
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Oh I agree 100%. Pre-Disney Fox was notorious for sending shows to the chopping block before they really had a chance to get going. I think WWE would have been ok either way because it was already a well established brand. I was always under the impression they had different writers for shows. I could be wrong on that.
Fox Cancelled Brooklyn Nine Nine, which immediately got picked up by NBC.

That tells you everything you need to know about the decision makers at Fox.
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According to fightful dot com Vince was late to RAW and has torn up the script for tonight's show.
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So business as usual for the RAW brand then.
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Charlotte's big two week return has wrapped up so she can go film Walking Tall
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why bring her back just to work 2 shows that was dumb, i guess they wanted more heel heat for her.
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No more Charlotte stinking up the joint on RAW for the foreseeable future?

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According to the Tampa Sports Authority, the real amount of tickets WWE sold for WrestleMania 37 was around 11k lower than what they announced and the actual attendance for both nights was around 14k less.

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According to Tampa Sports Authority records (via Brandon Thurston at Wrestlenomics), night one of WrestleMania 37 was attended by 18,328 people while night two drew an attendance of 18,924 for a total of 37,252 fans across both nights.

Paid ticket sales were higher as night one drew 20,172 ticket sales and the second night sold 20,634 tickets. Before the event, WWE announced 25,000 tickets would be on-sale for both nights.

WWE announced an attendance of 25,675 people each night for a total of 51,350 fans.

Attendance revenues total $6.2 million, with Saturday selling $3.058 million in admission and Sunday hitting $3.187 million.

The average price of sold tickets for both days was $190.
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