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Old 02-05-2021, 05:14 PM   #1
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Whats the story on Jacob Fatu ?
I just spent an hour watching Youtube videos of this guy and looks fucking amazing. I know he signed a long contract, but can he not get out of it at all? I'm shocked this guy isnt with AEW or WWE yet. He actually makes me want to watch MLW now.

It dont matter who did what to who at this point. The fact is, we went to war. And now there aint no going back. It's what war is you know? Once you're in it, you're in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight!
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Old 02-05-2021, 05:47 PM   #2
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I think WWE and AEW both wanted to sign him last year, but MLW was able to

He is good...
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Old 02-05-2021, 05:50 PM   #3
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He signed a new MLW deal in July of last year that goes to the end of 2025
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I've seen him live a ton. Used to go to local APW shows in Daly City and the guy is pretty amazing. Thought for sure NJPW was going to sign him but it didn't happen. Kind of sucks he's gotta rot in MLW for awhile because he should be mainstream IMO
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Jesus Christ he cant get out of that? Is it such a deal that one of these big 2 cant offer a buyout and some?

Jacob Fatu looks incredible. He actually makes complete sense for WWE. I'm shocked they havent tried to pay MLW for him.
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Jesus Christ he cant get out of that? Is it such a deal that one of these big 2 cant offer a buyout and some?

Jacob Fatu looks incredible. He actually makes complete sense for WWE. I'm shocked they havent tried to pay MLW for him.
Think he mentioned in an interview around the time he signed that deal about how he actually likes working in MLW and doesn't want to potentially leave until after he builds up his name value to top tier indie star levels.

Also helps that the more WWE, AEW, and other notable promotions snag big name indie guys, the more his value goes up by association.

Also think that was when MLW was starting to sign people to real contracts and not handshake or shady type deals. Not sure if its still the case but MLW deals used to be rumored to pay around $100 or less per show worked.
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wasn't he in a stable with Orton and Cody and Dibiase??
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No, that was one of his cousins instead.
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wasn't he in a stable with Orton and Cody and Dibiase??
LOL Manu, now that might be the worst Samoan wrestler from that whole family, and I'm including Nia Jax in that!
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Old 02-05-2021, 11:43 PM   #10
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Yeah him and Will Hibbs were at like every APW show I went to. Started to question why they were there after awhile because it seemed like they should be off headlining big money shows.
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Fatu would be great anywhere. I can't really get into MLW right now, it's got some good things going. It's better than pact I think but some of the gimmicks and storylines are so 3rd rate it turns me off.
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I should MLW again...really liked the Battle Riot show where Tony Schiavone was on commentary and when MJF was in MLW
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Who is Low Ki feuding with in MLW r/n
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His criminal record keeps him out of the WWE and the EVPs being insecure keeps him out of AEW.
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His criminal record keeps him out of the WWE and the EVPs being insecure keeps him out of AEW.
What do you mean? Insecure about what?
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What do you mean? Insecure about what?
Their positions on the card. Cody is not being upstaged by someone who works better than him while he is trying to do his Triple H impression. Outside of FTR, all the teams that have been brought in are young green guys who aren’t a threat to The Bucks.

The best free agents were left on the table. It wouldn’t surprise me if Punk was approached via text as deliberate sabotage too.
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That's just a silly take. They have PAC, Phoenix, Penta, and Moxley all on the roster. All draws that can put on insane matches. PAC beat Omega clean. Cody got completely obliterated by Brodie.

As far as tag teams go, they are mostly trying to build from the ground up. The Bucks lost to Private Party in like the first or second round of the tag team tourney they did a year or so ago. Not sure where the idea of them not wanting to put teams over comes from. They didn't even win the belts until far after launch.
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That's just a silly take. They have PAC, Phoenix, Penta, and Moxley all on the roster. All draws that can put on insane matches. PAC beat Omega clean. Cody got completely obliterated by Brodie.

As far as tag teams go, they are mostly trying to build from the ground up. The Bucks lost to Private Party in like the first or second round of the tag team tourney they did a year or so ago. Not sure where the idea of them not wanting to put teams over comes from. They didn't even win the belts until far after launch.
That’s not the correct use of “draws.” I think PAC is tremendously talented, but there’s a reason the guy flaked out when Enzo Amore came to 205 Live. It’s because the show did better when he was not the focus. Some guys can be talented and not threats. Other guys are definitely threats. By the logic you’re using, Hulk Hogan mustn’t never been a politician because Bret Hart got a job and he lost to Goldberg.

Cody is not one of the best workers in wrestling — not by a long shot — but there’s a reason he was doing the best traditional pro-wrestling in the company for a long time. That was by design.

Why would you text CM Punk a job offer? It’s so you can say “Hey, we tried,” without really trying to get one of the biggest stars available. Why? Because it’s another guy above you on the list.

The Bucks lost to Private Party. They didn’t put them over. Triple H lost to Seth Rollins too. Who was opening Mania the next year and who was working against Ronda Rousey? If they ended up with the belts, they still got the belts. Why do people insist this is selfless? Or that there isn’t ego in this decision? The “champs” they put over are doing nothing important (where the fuck is SCU?), they’ve all been dissolved into The Bucks graciously taking the reins. It’s the same with Omega. If all roads lead to him, then how is it anything other than selfish and stupid to delay and diminish that creative decision?

It’s a Meltzer myth to justify whatever they do. Of course they are building a division from the ground up and not just hiring guys that aren’t going to upstage their reputation with their preexisting audience. They’re such nice guys. Never mind the stories from wrestlers who did feel they were politicked against on the indies even before AEW. Or guys that have spoken out about AEW and their politics now.

Omega’s another really nice and respectful guy, right? Never mind that he told New Japan he would be sticking around (Fumi Saito believed this). Never mind that he openly admits to negotiating with the WWE and AEW right up until crunch time, and that New Japan just couldn’t compete with their offers (how about talking about how small their dick is too?). He either doesn’t understand Japanese culture at all (Meltzer will tell you that he lives and breathes Japan which made him so valuable), or he just didn’t care and expected them to come crawling to him. But don’t feed me this “nice guy/professional” bullshit. I’m bringing this up because it pertains to their egos and why they do the things that they do (or don’t) and how they are reported.

It wouldn’t have been enough for AEW to hire the best guys from MLW, the NWA, ROH, etc. They’ve made their decisions based on ego — one way or another. Whether it’s hiring their friends, hiring people that are green or not hiring people who could really stand out right away. That much is obvious and just shouldn’t be denied based on some fairy tale that these are the loveliest people in the history of wrestling and would never do something selfishly ever.

By the way, look who got the health benefits with their EVP contracts and who are still independent contractors.
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By the way, Cody got his win back against Brodie and dropped it with the knowledge that Brodie was leaving to deal with these health issues that eventually killed him. I wouldn’t be using that to talk about someone leaving the ego at the door.

And what did “beating” Omega mean for PAC? He’s in no different a position now and Omega is World Champion and such a great guy for doing it.
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Out of interest; which guys have raised issues with AEW politics? What were the specifics?
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PJ Black has specifically spoken out.
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A couple of guys have spoken out about crooked pay-offs too.
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Do we know yet about what happened to Kylie Rae? She signed an NDA, didn’t she? I don’t trust Meltzer’s reporting that she just wanted a change of scenery or “fans” were too mean.
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There has been talent in the indies that have spoken about how cliquey that California scene was and how hard it was to secure consistent bookings if you weren’t cool with The Bucks.
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CM Punk confirmed the text story himself.

Randy Orton received words about private business dealings on Twitter from the President of the company. He was also targeted with a bullshit story from Meltzer.

CM Punk’s personal dealings with AEW somehow got leaked to Konnan to be shared on his podcast. He knew way too much and said Punk asked for too much. This is a company paying $3 million per year to enable an alcoholic Chris Jericho.

These are off the top of my head. When people start leaving the company you will hear more and more.
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Right now you only have talent that are big enough names that most of them end up professionally associated with someone (WWE, FOX), so you aren’t getting the “shoot.”
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Do we know yet about what happened to Kylie Rae? She signed an NDA, didn’t she? I don’t trust Meltzer’s reporting that she just wanted a change of scenery or “fans” were too mean.
same thing that happened to her at impact. she can not handle the lime light she is a shy girl stress gets to her.
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Do we know yet about what happened to Kylie Rae? She signed an NDA, didn’t she? I don’t trust Meltzer’s reporting that she just wanted a change of scenery or “fans” were too mean.
Mental health issues. Depression, anorexia, frequent panic attacks. She talked about it on her Twitter. Sounds like she got a big opportunity and freaked out.
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Imagine being such a huge piece of shit you try to use someone’s mental health struggles as reason to try to trash a wrestling company you don’t like.
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To be fair to Noid, it sounds like he didn't know that was the reason for her leaving.
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I mean like 10 seconds of googling could have figured that out.
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I'm pretty sure it was discussed here, at the very least, in the dirt sheet thread whenshe suddenly left impact. He's just reaching because he's made a statement he can't back up.
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To be fair to Noid, it sounds like he didn't know that was the reason for her leaving.
No, that’s why I asked. Don’t know how that clears AEW anyway. It doesn’t indict them either, for all the dumb fucks either, but let’s ask Mauro Ranallo if those things are necessarily mutually exclusive.

Also pretty telling that people focus on one of those things. Nothing for the others. You make too many good points around here and see how quickly it frazzles people and makes them aggressive.

Imagine being such a piece of shit you had to resort to that because your favorite company is probably just as big a piece of shit as other companies.
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