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Old 08-23-2015, 12:46 AM   #3201
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Jays won 9-2 against the Angels last night and are up 15-3 in the 9th
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:09 PM   #3203
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Andy Pettitte Day at the Stadium today. Here's hoping the Yankees can split the series with Cleveland.
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:22 PM   #3204
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Mariners DFA Fernando Rodney.

Damn. What the hell happened with him?
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He got old. He's almost 40 and relievers are liable to hit a wall at any time.

Thinking about the Dombrowski signing makes me wonder if he'll employ the same strategy A's Detroit, where he used the farm system as currency.
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Old 08-23-2015, 04:34 PM   #3206
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Gezzus....Kris Bryant is 3 for 3, 2HR, HBP so far. Hes one of the top 10 hitters in the NL (even though he isnt in the top ten in RBI and has a .253 Batting ave, ya know). Amazing.
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Old 08-23-2015, 04:49 PM   #3207
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I'm guessing the Angels pitchers won't be sad to see the Jays go. 9 runs the first night, 15 last night and 6 threw 3 innings.
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Old 08-23-2015, 06:16 PM   #3208
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Lol Jays win 12-5. Amazing. They scored 36 runs over the 3 game series with the Angels.
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Old 08-23-2015, 07:23 PM   #3209
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Yankees choke away the series to the Indians. And lose Sabathia to his haunting knee injury.

Back to the 5-man rotation it is.
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Old 08-23-2015, 07:24 PM   #3210
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Jorge Posada's number retired? I think Murderer's Row is rolling in their graves.
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Old 08-23-2015, 07:41 PM   #3211
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Yesterday. Andy Pettitte's today.
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Old 08-23-2015, 08:37 PM   #3212
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Fuck, the Jays had 48 hits over this past series.

Very worried about peaking.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:53 PM   #3213
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Cubs have the 4th best record in Baseball and are 3rd in their division. Insane. Really cool to see them absolutely dominating the teams they should be dominating. Now they go on the road against SF and LA so this should be a good litmus test.
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:27 AM   #3214
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Fuck, the Jays had 48 hits over this past series.

Very worried about peaking.


Peaking is a myth in my opinion. Teams that are truly mentally tough, won't worry about mythical factors such as that. They simply take one game at a time, and give it all they got.
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Old 08-24-2015, 10:16 AM   #3215
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Heymen, it's a joke about Dro ford saying Toronto was peaking to early about a month ago. Because Baltimore is, in theory, going to catch then because of said peaking.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:50 PM   #3216
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Peaking too early? Droford is the guy who thought the standings in April mattered.
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:45 PM   #3217
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Kris Bryant does it again.
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Old 08-24-2015, 10:49 PM   #3218
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Mets were losing 7-2 after 3 innings in Philly. Wind up winning 16-7 with a team record 8 home runs.
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:03 AM   #3219
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Heard David Wright went yard in his return. How'd that feel?
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:52 AM   #3220
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Wait...how many guys were on base for his home run? That will determine if it was a good at bat.
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:08 AM   #3221
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It was just a measly solo shot. But the Mets did win 15 RBI to 5. Consider that game quantified.
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Old 08-25-2015, 06:26 AM   #3222
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Old 08-25-2015, 06:27 AM   #3223
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I don't mean that. Goddammit, Phillies
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Old 08-25-2015, 06:45 AM   #3224
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Paying $200 million for Heyward is still insane, btw. Great defense isn't enough to justify that for an average hitter.

Unless it's Ozzie Smith, obviously. How much would that be per backflip? Totally worth it.
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Which means Amaro will do it in December after extending Dom Brown for 8 years.
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Gem of a game between the Yankees and Astros last night. Pitchers duel all the way to the end. Yanks win with a walk off sac fly.
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Which means Amaro will do it in December after extending Dom Brown for 8 years.
In my MLB The Show franchise, the Phils do indeed sign Heyward to a mega deal if thats any indication....
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It just seems like the perfect final move for him to make, assuming he's on his way outta town.
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:11 PM   #3231
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I don't think you're getting that he's an above average hitter. Because he has been. His entire career.
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:28 PM   #3232
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That's because he hasn't been.
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:42 PM   #3233
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I'm not saying he's bad. But you're making him out to be on par with guys like Cabrera and Trout, which he is not and never has been.
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:43 PM   #3234
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266/351/431-Heyward's caree line

260/326/407-league average over his career

So all those numbers are above the league average. Thus , he's above league average. You can't seriously be this daft.
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:48 PM   #3235
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Lol nobody has compared to either of those players and this is the first that comparison is even being brought up, by you no less. Mike Trout is the best player in the game.

I don't get why you feel that there's any comparison to those players. Heyward is in that next tier and he's gonna get paid handsomely for it, maybe even overpaid, just like Trout would be if he hit the market and as well as Cabrera.
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:00 PM   #3236
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.266 is still not worth $200 million.

Also I did not say anyone compared him to those players, nor did I directly compare him to anyone. But you are making him seem better than he is, which is why I made the statement.

Why is this so difficult for you? To me, Jason Heyward is not worth paying $200 million, based on watching him do baseball things against the Phillies (and other teams) for 5+ years. But feel free to justify that contract however you want.
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No we're not. What's lost in translation is,as you've already stated, you're hung up on counting numbers and using it as a basis to judge what Heyward is worth.

And nobody said he was better or is making him sound better than Trout. That's your own interpretation made by God knows what.

He's an excellent player. He does everything, EVERYTHING better, in many cases far better than a league average player, and he'll be paid handsomely. There isn't any one player except maybe Trout and Stanton, who are worth the gigantic contractual obligations. Heyward probably is not really a $200 million player, and honestly, he's likely not going to get that much. But he's for sure with lot of money regardless of you think he's worth it or comprehend why he's as valuable as he is.
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It's an interpretation based on your claiming he's some kind of Godsend, which he is not. What's lost is that you think I'm only looking at stats. Sure, I don't give a shit about WAR (a pro is better than a scrub off the street - yay!).

But based on what I have watched him do on the field, combined with his numbers (since they do still matter, despite what you might think) he is not a guy who should get that much money.

It's not that hard to get. You think he's great and worth ~$200mil. I think he's just good and worth less. That's it.
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