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Old 12-29-2013, 01:36 PM   #41
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Basically, you all are offended Triple H is treated as a "big deal" despite him actually being a big deal. The only arguments are "BOO HOO HHH BEAT MY FAV RASSLER! HE ISN'T AS GOOD AS HBK OR AS OVER AS AUSTIN OR HOGAN! HE MUST SUCK!!1" Horseshit. Triple H isn't the greatest in the ring nor is he the biggest star ever, but he has consistently been over as both a heel and as a face for over a decade. He was established before his relationship with Stephanie, and obviously his relationship has led to his current position, but to act like Triple H is a glorified midcarder who slept his way to the top is absolute horseshit. You can't deny that Triple H is damn good in the ring, that he is damn good on the mic, and pretty damn popular. Yes, he isn't the absolute best at anything but he is truly really good at every aspect of the business which is why he has been able to be on top for over a decade and be in a position of major influence over wrestling.
Agree with this. I don't hate him anymore, but yeah, I definitely didn't enjoy him going over Foley as he did. Of course, Foley wanted it that way.
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Old 12-29-2013, 01:38 PM   #42
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HHH is basically an opening match guy who boned the bosses daughter.
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Old 12-30-2013, 04:16 AM   #43
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When has Triple H ever been the #1 guy in WWE?
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:45 AM   #44
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My reason for not liking Triple H much, is the fact that he used Owen Hart's death as a means to get himself over with management, and bag the WWF Championship in the fallout(literally) of Owen's accident.

After the Montreal Screwjob, that caused the end of the WWF careers of Bret, Davey Boy, and Neidhart, H isolated Owen politically, made Owen his backstage punching bag, and made Owen pay the price for the fact that Bret said 'no' to Shawn before the Screwjob.

And to those who think that Owen would have become 'The Game'? That was only ever meant for Triple H. No one else. And WWE created that lie to gain sympathy from Canada's wrestling fans, most of whom were Bret's fans, not Shawn's or H's.

And if Jimmy Steele took off his emerald green glasses for a few minutes, he'd see that's what REALLY happened.

Oh, and Jimmy, while I do read your replies to me about H, I really couldn't care less in any event.

So, please, spew your bias to me, Jimmy, cause I don't give a fuck in the end.

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Old 12-30-2013, 01:52 PM   #45
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:26 PM   #46
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My reason for not liking Triple H much, is the fact that he used Owen Hart's death as a means to get himself over with management, and bag the WWF Championship in the fallout(literally) of Owen's accident.

After the Montreal Screwjob, that caused the end of the WWF careers of Bret, Davey Boy, and Neidhart, H isolated Owen politically, made Owen his backstage punching bag, and made Owen pay the price for the fact that Bret said 'no' to Shawn before the Screwjob.

And to those who think that Owen would have become 'The Game'? That was only ever meant for Triple H. No one else. And WWE created that lie to gain sympathy from Canada's wrestling fans, most of whom were Bret's fans, not Shawn's or H's.

And if Jimmy Steele took off his emerald green glasses for a few minutes, he'd see that's what REALLY happened.

Oh, and Jimmy, while I do read your replies to me about H, I really couldn't care less in any event.

So, please, spew your bias to me, Jimmy, cause I don't give a fuck in the end.

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Old 12-30-2013, 02:27 PM   #47
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The Montreal Screwjob didn't end the careers of Bret, Davey, and Neidhardt. They chose to leave, and all 3 ended up making a return to WWF/WWE at some point.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:06 PM   #49
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I don't hate Triple H, but I wouldn't say he's one of my favorite performers. If he was a movie star, he'd be like Bruce Willis -- technically good at what he does and really successful at it, but I don't really want to see another Die Hard. I do get excited about the idea of Triple H interacting in fresh scenarios. Triple H vs. Daniel Bryan, for example, is a match that I'd actually want to see.

I got a bit sour on him during his "I dominate RAW" run with the World Heavyweight Title. Just because it was boring. I understand why they did it -- a lot of top stars had left/were leaving and they had just created this new championship and probably wanted to give it a fair bit of stability. Plus, WrestleMania XIX was their first Mania with the brand split in place. They were doing the title change in the "true main event" between Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle, so they probably got a bit suspicious that two World Title changes would be a bit much. For balance they probably chose to put Hunter over Booker because Booker winning would have been less of a "capper" to the evening. But it really made Booker look bad. That Pedigree that put Booker down for like twenty seconds before a cover was even made, leading to people expecting the kick-out only for Booker to just lie their like a rag-doll? That was a bit much.

On a personal level, I have never forgotten that moment where Triple H Pedigree'd both Paul London & Brian Kendrick as they just stood around like goofs waiting for it, and for no good character reason. I got all excited about the possibility that we'd get Edge, Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch (or whoever the heels were at the time) vs. Triple H, Paul London & Brian Kendrick. I thought that the younger guys would get such a rub from being in there with the older guys. Then any face momentum they had was squished. It's not like Triple H had a problem working with Brian Kendrick, though -- he made both Kendrick and Ezekiel Jackson look great during his SmackDown stint.

There just seem to be a lot of "misjudgments" when it comes to Triple H and his creative direction. Triple H has wrestled The Undertaker at WrestleMania more times than either Kane or Shawn Michaels, for example. They also seemed to try and make The Summer of Punk angle about Triple H too, where a heel turn for The Game would have been absolutely perfect. We got it with Daniel Bryan eventually, but that's two years of face H later.

That being said, I think he really gets the business and is a big reason NXT is so fucking awesome. The more Triple H takes himself out of things, though, the better the product he is influencing will get. His promo to open up NXT 200 was probably the promo I most enjoyed out of Triple H recently, probably partially because he was hyping up everything around him.
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:14 AM   #50
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:22 AM   #51
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The Montreal Screwjob didn't end the careers of Bret, Davey, and Neidhardt. They chose to leave, and all 3 ended up making a return to WWF/WWE at some point.
I'm afraid ronic got the upperhand in this exchange. HHH killed Jim the Anvil Neidhart's career and is responsible for his drug addiction.
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:59 AM   #52
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Old 01-01-2014, 10:17 AM   #56
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Triple H is the reason the WWE is in the sad state it is. Not because he is terrible or doesn't have a clue, but because Triple H is where he is because he took advantage of people/opportunities, not because he is a great star. HHH was always just there. Always near the spotlight, but it wasn't fully on him, and he excelled there. Once the spotlight moved to him,out of necessity, we all saw how boring he is, and RAW has never been the same.

Now, as head of creative, HHH (a semi retired, future owner) gets a match or program with everyone that is extremely over at the moment, and always gets the upper hand. CM Punk, as soon as he got hot HHH booked himself in a match, and beat him, and shifted the focus to himself and Nash. Daniel Bryan, gets over in a big way, HHH steals his title and stands over him to close out the next four weeks of both Raw and Smackdown. Lesnar, big deal bringing him back, could've used him make several future stars.....fights HHH, twice.

The point is, HHH never broke through, and as a result the current roster is written and scripted to build the stars by a man who doesn't know how to do that. There is now a glass ceiling that a wrestler hits, and because everyone else is stuk at te same point, no one ever really breaks through. HHH is in the best pot to help get others to the next level, but he thinks they can only do that against a big name like himself, but he's not willing to lose in order to get them tree. It's like he thinks "I got over and I lost a lot, if they're that good the loss to me wont matter"

Idk, he can't make future stars, because he never got himself to that level without massive help from his friends and in-laws.
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Old 01-01-2014, 07:22 PM   #57
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Discuss your reasons for hating Triple H and then provide evidence to backup your reasons for being a vile and spiteful human being.
I hate Triple H for being a more succesful homo-sapien than me. I work a cash register at the supermarket while The Game travels the world, has sex with a hot chick turned hot woman and runs a multi trillion dollar company.
The only thing I am not jealous of is that Triple H had to do Chyna first, but I guess that's like walking on hot coals to be a tougher human being.
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Lesnar, big deal bringing him back, could've used him make several future stars.....fights HHH, twice.
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I don't hate him... He's OK... He gets a lot of shit from internet fans for stuff creative did with him in 2002 but Creative didn't give him that fucking HUGE pop on his return....Had that been anyone else I'd like to think Creative would have adjusted future booking accordingly..

He's done a lot of good and a minimal amount of bad. I'd like him to take a step back now from being as active a part of future storylines so more focus can be placed on New Stars...I hope he has the decency in the next couple of years to let a new guy 'retire' him and stick to his word, as Shawn has thus far.

It's time now for WWE to make new stars again and He can play a momentous part in that.
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Why don't you go fuck yourself you stupid cunt.
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:44 AM   #68
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:19 AM   #71
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Triple H is the reason the WWE is in the sad state it is. Not because he is terrible or doesn't have a clue, but because Triple H is where he is because he took advantage of people/opportunities, not because he is a great star. HHH was always just there. Always near the spotlight, but it wasn't fully on him, and he excelled there. Once the spotlight moved to him,out of necessity, we all saw how boring he is, and RAW has never been the same.

Now, as head of creative, HHH (a semi retired, future owner) gets a match or program with everyone that is extremely over at the moment, and always gets the upper hand. CM Punk, as soon as he got hot HHH booked himself in a match, and beat him, and shifted the focus to himself and Nash. Daniel Bryan, gets over in a big way, HHH steals his title and stands over him to close out the next four weeks of both Raw and Smackdown. Lesnar, big deal bringing him back, could've used him make several future stars.....fights HHH, twice.

The point is, HHH never broke through, and as a result the current roster is written and scripted to build the stars by a man who doesn't know how to do that. There is now a glass ceiling that a wrestler hits, and because everyone else is stuk at te same point, no one ever really breaks through. HHH is in the best pot to help get others to the next level, but he thinks they can only do that against a big name like himself, but he's not willing to lose in order to get them tree. It's like he thinks "I got over and I lost a lot, if they're that good the loss to me wont matter"

Idk, he can't make future stars, because he never got himself to that level without massive help from his friends and in-laws.
Pretty much this, was actually having this convo the other days with a couple of aspiring pro wrasslers. The guy isn't bad at all, he's very very good, he's just MEH and he's always there hogging the spotlight when new, fresh, awesome things can be happening.
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