MLB 2010-2011 Off Season Thread

[MVP]

Apparently the Red Sox tried to acquire Jose Bautista during the winter meetings, but an agreement was never reached which is what motivated them to sign Carl Crawford. I think the Red Sox are better off now, not that I'm opposed to the team having Bautista on the team, but having Bautista for possibly one season as opposed to Crawford for the next eight is no contest as to which makes them better off.

[Damian Rey]

Originally Posted by MVP Apparently the Red Sox tried to acquire Jose Bautista during the winter meetings, but an agreement was never reached which is what motivated them to sign Carl Crawford. I think the Red Sox are better off now, not that I'm opposed to the team having Bautista on the team, but having Bautista for possibly one season as opposed to Crawford for the next eight is no contest as to which makes them better off.

Crawford offers more value, in my opinion. He's a prototypical 2 hitter, and in that lineup and ballpark, is going to be dangerous. Bautista is a fluke as far as I'm concerned. if he goes out and hits another 30 HR while hitting around .250 I'll give him some more credit but one year does not equal a trend.

Back to the Yanks and Jetes...maybe Cashman is tired of being dragged around. he takes an awful lot of abuse in the media, and anytime the team doesn't win, it comes down to him with the blame. Though he should be held responsible to an extent, it's not as if he's the one out there playing.

Jeter at shortstop is horrendous. He has to be one of the most overrated defensive players in the last 10 years. The gold glove is a joke voted on by managers. If you're popular, as Jeter is around the league, then you will win the award.

I'm sure the COULD HAVE found a better option at short, but have chosen not to. That could come back to hurt them in the end. ARod should have been at short from day one. Fan backlash can piss off. ARod was by far the better player on both sides of the ball.

Oh well. I think Jeter will get moved to LF or RF by 2013 and the Yankees will have either traded for or signed a better defensive option.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey Crawford offers more value, in my opinion. He's a prototypical 2 hitter, and in that lineup and ballpark, is going to be dangerous. Bautista is a fluke as far as I'm concerned. if he goes out and hits another 30 HR while hitting around .250 I'll give him some more credit but one year does not equal a trend. Back to the Yanks and Jetes...maybe Cashman is tired of being dragged around. he takes an awful lot of abuse in the media, and anytime the team doesn't win, it comes down to him with the blame. Though he should be held responsible to an extent, it's not as if he's the one out there playing. Jeter at shortstop is horrendous. He has to be one of the most overrated defensive players in the last 10 years. The gold glove is a joke voted on by managers. If you're popular, as Jeter is around the league, then you will win the award. I'm sure the COULD HAVE found a better option at short, but have chosen not to. That could come back to hurt them in the end. ARod should have been at short from day one. Fan backlash can piss off. ARod was by far the better player on both sides of the ball. Oh well. I think Jeter will get moved to LF or RF by 2013 and the Yankees will have either traded for or signed a better defensive option.

I'd rather give Nunez a shot. Eduardo Nunez was the kid who did a good job at third base while A-rod was out. I think A-rod got hurt and Nunez took third base. He is said to have high hopes at Shortstop and the Yankees have high hopes for him. He was kinda the differance maker in the Cliff Lee trade they asked for Montero AND Nunez and the Yankees said no. Now, had they caved and traded both of them Yankees may have gotten Cliff Lee last year.

It all depends on what happens the Yanks have gotten ourselves into a hole. They may need to make a Blockbuster trade at the deadline. And if they do and Nunez has to be traded then so be it. But , at this point I say we use him when/if Jeter moves to the outfield.

[Damian Rey]

Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J I'd rather give Nunez a shot. Eduardo Nunez was the kid who did a good job at third base while A-rod was out. I think A-rod got hurt and Nunez took third base. He is said to have high hopes at Shortstop and the Yankees have high hopes for him. He was kinda the differance maker in the Cliff Lee trade they asked for Montero AND Nunez and the Yankees said no. Now, had they caved and traded both of them Yankees may have gotten Cliff Lee last year. It all depends on what happens the Yanks have gotten ourselves into a hole. They may need to make a Blockbuster trade at the deadline. And if they do and Nunez has to be traded then so be it. But , at this point I say we use him when/if Jeter moves to the outfield.

Just looked up Nunez' minor league numbers. He's not very impressive. At all. Doesn't draw a ton of walks, has zero punch in his bat, and his OBP is very reliant on his batting average. I don't think he's the answer long term. He's only 23, and will be 24 this year, so there's a chance, but I don't think he's going to be anything more than a light-hitting utitlity guy at best.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey Just looked up Nunez' minor league numbers. He's not very impressive. At all. Doesn't draw a ton of walks, has zero punch in his bat, and his OBP is very reliant on his batting average. I don't think he's the answer long term. He's only 23, and will be 24 this year, so there's a chance, but I don't think he's going to be anything more than a light-hitting utitlity guy at best.

Granted, he may need some progress. And I'm just judging him from what his Major League appearance was. He was there for 30 games and he was pretty good for the injured A-rod. I wanna see what he can do in a full season instead of just 30 games. I don't think there's any short stop I really want. That's not gonna cost a fortune.

Andrus : He will never be traded I am pretty confident of that.

Hanley: As much as I like him and he's still young

I think different then you do. IMHO Ramiro Pena is a light hitting utility guy nothing more. It's not that I don't want a good shortstop it's just that good young short stops aren't very easy to come by. We have a few short stop choices. And Jeter won't be going to the out field this year and maybe not even next. I think in a couple of years he will be a suitable replacement. A lot of progress can happen in a few years. But, like I said if he and Ivan Nove and/or Montero need to be traded for a starter then so be it. I think we'd be fine with Sanchez and Romine. Sanchez I don't think is ready yet though. He's only like 19.

[Damian Rey]

Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J Granted, he may need some progress. And I'm just judging him from what his Major League appearance was. He was there for 30 games and he was pretty good for the injured A-rod. I wanna see what he can do in a full season instead of just 30 games. I don't think there's any short stop I really want. That's not gonna cost a fortune. Andrus : He will never be traded I am pretty confident of that. Hanley: As much as I like him and he's still young I think different then you do. IMHO Ramiro Pena is a light hitting utility guy nothing more. It's not that I don't want a good shortstop it's just that good young short stops aren't very easy to come by. We have a few short stop choices. And Jeter won't be going to the out field this year and maybe not even next. I think in a couple of years he will be a suitable replacement. A lot of progress can happen in a few years. But, like I said if he and Ivan Nove and/or Montero need to be traded for a starter then so be it. I think we'd be fine with Sanchez and Romine. Sanchez I don't think is ready yet though. He's only like 19.

You may think different, but the numbers are what they are for Nunez. He has very little punch in his bat. He's not a bad piece, but his minor stats haven't shown that he's particularly exceptional in any one area.

And he's turning 24, and has still yet to be given a chance at an everyday spot and it's likely he's not going to at this point. I don't think there's any faith behind him at all from Yankee brass. They'll get another shortstop through either trade or fee agency, but I HIGHLY doubt Nunez is the answer there, short term or long.

Pena and Nunez are pretty much the same type of player. Nunez has more speed and more pop (not saying much), but niether look like they're going to be anything more than what they are.

Yanks could, and will do a lot better when the time comes. Also, if the Mets don't resign Jose Reyes, I'm betting the Yankees are a top suitor.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey You may think different, but the numbers are what they are for Nunez. He has very little punch in his bat. He's not a bad piece, but his minor stats haven't shown that he's particularly exceptional in any one area. And he's turning 24, and has still yet to be given a chance at an everyday spot and it's likely he's not going to at this point. I don't think there's any faith behind him at all from Yankee brass. They'll get another shortstop through either trade or fee agency, but I HIGHLY doubt Nunez is the answer there, short term or long. Pena and Nunez are pretty much the same type of player. Nunez has more speed and more pop (not saying much), but niether look like they're going to be anything more than what they are. Yanks could, and will do a lot better when the time comes. Also, if the Mets don't resign Jose Reyes, I'm betting the Yankees are a top suitor.

I don't mind Jose Reyes. I like Reyes. The main problem is why be so quick to move Jeter out there? Now, I am guessing by the time Jose Reyes is a free agent it's gonna be next year. Now, Gardner, Curtis, and Swish have been doing a good job in the Outfield in my personal opinion. So I am in no rush to get Jeter out there when they are doing a good job. You are probably right I just really prefer Home Grown talent.