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Old 02-13-2022, 06:49 PM   #1
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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
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Old 02-13-2022, 09:43 PM   #2
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Looks fine and all but I'm hoping this closes the door on the whole multiverse thing.
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Old 02-13-2022, 09:59 PM   #3
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Yeah, multiverse isn't going anywhere.

This looks nuts. Really pumped.
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Looks fine and all but I'm hoping this closes the door on the whole multiverse thing.
It will definitely not do that
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Looks fine and all but I'm hoping this closes the door on the whole multiverse thing.
Did you not watch Loki at all? This is more setup for it. If anything, that door is getting smashed to bits like the feds with a ram tank until they conclude the current "phase" of shows and movies. And also, it's a way to reconcile properties under the Marvel/MCU proper instead of being props of studio pissing matches... except Sony still squatting on Fantastic 4. I guess they figure playing nice with joint custody of Spider-Man is enough.
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Did you not watch Loki at all? This is more setup for it. If anything, that door is getting smashed to bits like the feds with a ram tank until they conclude the current "phase" of shows and movies. And also, it's a way to reconcile properties under the Marvel/MCU proper instead of being props of studio pissing matches... except Sony still squatting on Fantastic 4. I guess they figure playing nice with joint custody of Spider-Man is enough.
Fox had Fantastic Four, not Sony. They got brought back into the fold when Disney bought them out. An MCU Fantastic Four film is in development.
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It will definitely not do that

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Old 02-14-2022, 07:25 AM   #10
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yeah sony never had any involvement with FF and disney has full control of the property now
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Really smart that they establish Strange is having dreams at the start of the trailer, there’s a lot to unpack in there but what’s “real” and what’s a “dream”.

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Was that a Patrick Stewart Charles Xavier cameo in there??
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Sounded pretty much exactly like Patrick Stewart so unless they are throwing a red herring in there, that was the spoiler I was talking bout
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Looks like it might be the illuminati, with Mordo taking stranges place in the line up.
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But


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Illuminati was Professor X ( in trailer ), Strange ( trailer ), Reed Richards, Black Bolt, Namor and Tony Stark. I've heard people saying the bots in that scene look like Iron Men. Is there another Illuminati ? I cant imagine they are introducing Namor, Richards and Black Bolt into the MCU. Professor X is plenty.
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Could be a version of. Lots of talk about the bots looking like Ultron bots, maybe it’s a variant Ultron on there, or I guess a variant Tony.
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Illuminati was Professor X ( in trailer ), Strange ( trailer ), Reed Richards, Black Bolt, Namor and Tony Stark. I've heard people saying the bots in that scene look like Iron Men. Is there another Illuminati ? I cant imagine they are introducing Namor, Richards and Black Bolt into the MCU. Professor X is plenty.
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I could actually see them introducing Richards and Black Bolt through this scene. Namor has been a part of the illuminati in the past but he left the group and isn that important to it in the first place.
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I could actually see them introducing Richards and Black Bolt through this scene. Namor has been a part of the illuminati in the past but he left the group and isn that important to it in the first place.

I can see them in the MCU, but bringing them all into this movie alone is probably overshadowing Dr. Strange.
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MAG is correct in hoping this concludes the multiverse arc in the MCU. The concept doesn't lend itself as well here as it does DC. It ultimately renders canon pointless if not handled well. They already committed the sin of confusing a 'contained' multiverse (Loki, Spider-Verse, DC Universe) with an 'Anything By' multiverse (Far From Home, CW-Verse, Disney Princess Canon(?)). It can get really sloppy really quick.

Far From Home was great. This looks amazing. Flash will be cute.

But enough of this.
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Fox had Fantastic Four, not Sony. They got brought back into the fold when Disney bought them out. An MCU Fantastic Four film is in development.
You're right. I fucked that up. I thought Sony had two properties; Spider-Man and something else, and anything Fox was sitting on was mostly cleared up under that "mutants/non-mutants" agreement.

While I understand the argument that a multiverse can get "out of hand", it is also potentially a way to reconcile shit that simultaneously both is and isn't MCU [Schrodinger's MCU], such as the Netflix shows that exist in a perpetual-yet-unspecified time period between Avengers 1 and 2, the first couple of seasons of Agents of Shield that actively crossed over with the movies before canonically going off the rails, and stuff like all the previous non-Ruffalo Hulk events actually having happened, but the movies themselves "not counting".

Just depends of writing and resolutions, really. If it's done right, they don't need to slam the door shut immediately, just let it naturally breathe... but also not just use it for everything forever in the vein of "the whole thing was a dream" type trope as a way to slack in quality and just pump half-assed content out for the sake of more content. Then, we can get on with the Secret Wars and shit.

Basically, should be fine if it's more of a narrative tool and less of a narrative crutch.
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Well the negatives of an MCU multiverse has already shown themselves while these potential positives are either theoretical or already solved without multiversal soft returns.

- Infinity Stones used as a punchline in Loki makes mockery of one of the greatest cinematic sagas that just recently concluded.
- Matt Murdock and Kingpin were simply written into the MCU with no mystical wackidoodles required.
- It doesn't seem like Dr Strange was arrested by the TVA. Logically he should have (and every Avenger doing the Time Heist which Loki himself actually points out), but this appears to possibly be MCU's Illuminati group. Are they a tier above the TVA? If so; how? Are the creators of Phase 4 movies/shows on the same page here?
- Is the 'other' Wanda the mutant variant of her? So are we in the FoX-Men world or yet another variant of... something else?
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There was some worry that the MCU was losing its luster after post end game releases like Black Widow and Eternals.

Between this, No Way Home and the upcoming Thor which is already looking good, I think things are back on track.
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Old 05-06-2022, 02:34 PM   #28
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Jesus french fried titty fuck this was fun.

Raimi really taps into his horror roots in this and it makes this feel unique among the mcu library, without straying to far from the formula.
Agreed. Some of the visuals in this movie were surprisingly horrific.
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Fun movie

Best parts for me were all the horror elements Sam Raimi brought out and Wanda.
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Old 05-07-2022, 05:24 PM   #30
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Just got back. You can tell it’s a Raimi movie.
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Fun movie....

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Was not expected for Wanda to be the main villain of the thing.

Marked hard for Xavier's yellow scooter (though the low angle shots of it looked dumb) and the little sting from cartoon theme.

John Krasinski debut as Reed Richards too... I suppose he will probably keep the role for the upcoming movie... damn.... can't take the dude seriously. Maybe because I haven't seen any of his other work, but just can't buy Jim Halpert as a superhero/smartest man in the universe. They had him job pretty hard on his debut too, he is buried forever.
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The idea they came up with to explain dreams kind of puts a damper on Nightmare ever being a character in this universe.
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Just remembered that I forgot to look up

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Who the f that was supposed to be in the mid credits scene.... the least they could have done is drop a name... ok.... was apparently "Clea".... have heard that name recently, think she is the new Sorceror Supreme in the comics or something...

Probably would have behooved them to add in a few more lines in that scene to get you interested in this new character and not just "who in the purple hell is this supposed to be?"
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Who the f that was supposed to be in the mid credits scene.... the least they could have done is drop a name... ok.... was apparently "Clea".... have heard that name recently, think she is the new Sorceror Supreme in the comics or something...

Probably would have behooved them to add in a few more lines in that scene to get you interested in this new character and not just "who in the purple hell is this supposed to be?"
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She is indeed Clea and she comes from the Dark Dimension. She's one of Strange's biggest allies and someone I'd hope would eventually pop up in the MCU. Her appearance was suppose to cater to the same kind of people that were going apeshit in that second act so I don't blame them for handling it the way they did.
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The people familiar with Charles Xavier and Reed Richards?
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Yes.
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It's a far stretch (pun intended) from recognizing Reed Richards and Charles Xavier to recognizing Clea
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A bit off topic but if I'm seeing a movie called Doctor Strange, I'm expecting and anticipating Clea way more than I am Reed Richards and Charles Xavier, regardless of the multiverse aspect of it.
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The average person isn't though... even non-average people like me who follow the MCU very closely and who read Marvel comics for a few years... The years that I read it, Clea must not have been around much or at all.
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