Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
 

Warning: Trailer has some fairly big spoilers :o

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Looks fine and all but I'm hoping this closes the door on the whole multiverse thing.

it will expand it

Yeah, multiverse isn't going anywhere.

This looks nuts. Really pumped.

It will definitely not do that

Really looking forward to this

Did you not watch Loki at all? This is more setup for it. If anything, that door is getting smashed to bits like the feds with a ram tank until they conclude the current "phase" of shows and movies. And also, it's a way to reconcile properties under the Marvel/MCU proper instead of being props of studio pissing matches... except Sony still squatting on Fantastic 4. I guess they figure playing nice with joint custody of Spider-Man is enough.

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Fox had Fantastic Four, not Sony. They got brought back into the fold when Disney bought them out. An MCU Fantastic Four film is in development.

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Y'all don't have to gang up on me. :(

yeah sony never had any involvement with FF and disney has full control of the property now

Really smart that they establish Strange is having dreams at the start of the trailer, there’s a lot to unpack in there but what’s “real” and what’s a “dream”.

But

Could be a version of. Lots of talk about the bots looking like Ultron bots, maybe it’s a variant Ultron on there, or I guess a variant Tony.

I can see them in the MCU, but bringing them all into this movie alone is probably overshadowing Dr. Strange.

MAG is correct in hoping this concludes the multiverse arc in the MCU. The concept doesn't lend itself as well here as it does DC. It ultimately renders canon pointless if not handled well. They already committed the sin of confusing a 'contained' multiverse (Loki, Spider-Verse, DC Universe) with an 'Anything By' multiverse (Far From Home, CW-Verse, Disney Princess Canon(?)). It can get really sloppy really quick.

Far From Home was great. This looks amazing. Flash will be cute.

But enough of this.

You're right. I fucked that up. I thought Sony had two properties; Spider-Man and something else, and anything Fox was sitting on was mostly cleared up under that "mutants/non-mutants" agreement.

While I understand the argument that a multiverse can get "out of hand", it is also potentially a way to reconcile shit that simultaneously both is and isn't MCU [Schrodinger's MCU], such as the Netflix shows that exist in a perpetual-yet-unspecified time period between Avengers 1 and 2, the first couple of seasons of Agents of Shield that actively crossed over with the movies before canonically going off the rails, and stuff like all the previous non-Ruffalo Hulk events actually having happened, but the movies themselves "not counting".

Just depends of writing and resolutions, really. If it's done right, they don't need to slam the door shut immediately, just let it naturally breathe... but also not just use it for everything forever in the vein of "the whole thing was a dream" type trope as a way to slack in quality and just pump half-assed content out for the sake of more content. Then, we can get on with the Secret Wars and shit.

Basically, should be fine if it's more of a narrative tool and less of a narrative crutch.

Well the negatives of an MCU multiverse has already shown themselves while these potential positives are either theoretical or already solved without multiversal soft returns.

- Infinity Stones used as a punchline in Loki makes mockery of one of the greatest cinematic sagas that just recently concluded.
- Matt Murdock and Kingpin were simply written into the MCU with no mystical wackidoodles required.
- It doesn't seem like Dr Strange was arrested by the TVA. Logically he should have (and every Avenger doing the Time Heist which Loki himself actually points out), but this appears to possibly be MCU's Illuminati group. Are they a tier above the TVA? If so; how? Are the creators of Phase 4 movies/shows on the same page here?
- Is the 'other' Wanda the mutant variant of her? So are we in the FoX-Men world or yet another variant of... something else?

This out yet?

tomorrow

In most theaters today.

WELL THERE YOU GO

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Just got back from seeing it.

Jesus french fried titty fuck this was fun.

Raimi really taps into his horror roots in this and it makes this feel unique among the mcu library, without straying to far from the formula.

There was some worry that the MCU was losing its luster after post end game releases like Black Widow and Eternals.

Between this, No Way Home and the upcoming Thor which is already looking good, I think things are back on track.

Agreed. Some of the visuals in this movie were surprisingly horrific.

Fun movie

Best parts for me were all the horror elements Sam Raimi brought out and Wanda.

Just got back. You can tell it’s a Raimi movie.

Fun movie....

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The idea they came up with to explain dreams kind of puts a damper on Nightmare ever being a character in this universe.

Just remembered that I forgot to look up

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People lost their marbles in the hall where I was

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Yes.

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