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Old 03-02-2022, 03:51 PM   #63841
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Old 03-02-2022, 04:00 PM   #63842
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Owen Hart in that ring just looks all kinds of wrong to me.
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Which force is greater? Tony Khan’s need to flood his roster or Nia Jax sucking? Will she be signed as the greatest announcement in the history of this sport by the end of 2022? She can certainly say bad things about her ex-employer.
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Old 03-02-2022, 07:22 PM   #63847
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Which force is greater? Tony Khan’s need to flood his roster or Nia Jax sucking? Will she be signed as the greatest announcement in the history of this sport by the end of 2022? She can certainly say bad things about her ex-employer.
Nia lacks any real people skills. She would probably end up telling Tony Khan he is a wimp and she is The Rock's cousin so he can't do anything about it before she even received a contract offer
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Old 03-02-2022, 07:23 PM   #63848
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Old 03-03-2022, 02:26 AM   #63849
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WWE production is too glossy and the direction is terrible. The direction in AEW is often pretty bad — lots of tech flubs — and the commentary is awful, but not as stilted as WWE. Neither company really hits it out of the park. WWE’s video packages are amazing though.
This is the current industry on the whole. Both "major" places are doing majorly wrong shit in two divirgent directions.

AEW has burned through a full decade worth of angles, debuts, matches, and "big moments" in their barely 3 years of existence because there is no constraint or control, while WWE has gone so far up their own ass, that they are a wrestling company that doesn't even want to be a wrestling company resulting in a lot of boring, predictable shit and nostalgia acts because they forgot how to work talent up the card. AEW pretends everyone knows everything going on in the entire wrestling world "because social media" instead of following the axiom of "every show is someone's first time"... while WWE pretends the wrestling world outside of their own current product - which often even includes their own goddamn history - doesn't exist.

I personally wish there were greater equilibrium. Or at the very least, a stable place where that can exist.

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*(I fucked up and somehow erased the quote. I just cut and paste rather than go back and re-format it.)

Even though that comment was supposed to be some inflaming hot take, he's kinda right. The problem, though, is that was supposed to be. That's how a service works. It was looking like it was going to subsudize itself by running its own touring, but then it didn't. Another issue for another thread.

They were doing it right. But then, they proceeded to fuck up nearly every call-up from Bo Dallas onward. People who got called up oftent got fucked with or minimized or gimmick completely changed. Leo Kreuger was a threatening madman... can't have that... let's make him fake Russel Brand who leads a parade of furries and cosplayers to the ring for a couple of months until Vince gets sick of his own idea. Asuka was a world beater who chainsawed through bitches Goldberg style in handicap matches, but then could barely handle a woman who was about to be fired from the main roster. Let's take masks off all the luchadors, but then put masks on peple everyone has seen before! Meanwhile, people who got negative over like Baron Corbin were figured in. He still sucks, all these years later, just not nearly as much. They've had more supposed "failures" than successes, but there come a point where you have to realize that maybe it isn't the process itself that failed, but WWE moving goalposts and sometimes even outright changing the sport midgame without telling any of the players.

NXT is similar to the idea of the RAW/Smackdown brand split in that if you're not going to operate the function what it's for, why even have it? The end result was supposed to be this factory of ready-made superstars, but then fuck with the formula on whatever got them over instead of continuing to use that. I can train somebody to do my desk job almost perfectly, but if my boss then decides to take that person and stick them in the kitchen, that trainee shouldn't then be told they're a shitty employee for being a bad cook. That wasn't what they were trained in and not what they expected.

There are tons of people waiting around to see exactly how they fuck Rex Steiner up outise of the stupid name, because it's been a thing for so long that it is expected that they'll drop the ball on him. It is viewed as more an inevitablity than it should even ever be on paper. And when that day comes, all the excuses will fly in about how he must have done or said something bad, or his dad or uncle did or said something bad, instead of the simpler, but more heartbreaking possibility of WWE not knowing what the fuck they're doing anymore in the way similar to a SquareEnix being surprised at their successes with classic turn based RPGs in spite of BOTH companies the name is comprised of building a nearly 20 year pre-merger reputation on exactly that genre fairly exclusively.
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Old 03-03-2022, 06:24 AM   #63850
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I was being serious. There was zero young talent coming out of NXT. It was a bunch of guys in their 30s with miles on them. Isn't Damian Priest in his late 30's?
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Old 03-03-2022, 06:31 AM   #63851
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I remember PN News in ECW as part of the Baldies. I had no idea he brought that gimmick back
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:24 AM   #63854
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:48 AM   #63856
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Yeah, they obviously can't be seen dealing with a murderous and despotic regime, can they?
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:51 AM   #63857
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This is fucking outstanding lmao!!!!
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lollllll oh my god i was dying at that story on timeline the other day. the walker spot is amazing.
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I was being serious. There was zero young talent coming out of NXT. It was a bunch of guys in their 30s with miles on them. Isn't Damian Priest in his late 30's?
NXT was never a true developmental promotion until now. I think it's even a stretch to say it was used to get guys used to the wwe style, because the style in nxt was still different from the main roster.

So you're not wrong, but you know what? Fuck it. I like good wrestling, and pre tv deal nxt was some of the best modern wrestling out there. You know what I don't like? Watching green wrestlers learn how to work. An occasional match or two? Sure. But Bron Breaker aside, everyone else on that show is hard to watch. And not in the fun power plant way.
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That's why I had the idea of using NXT as a finishing school and the new NXT Level up show as a show for green wrestlers to get comfortable wrestling in front of an audience/camera.
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Vince tells Pat MacAfee he will have a match at WrestleMania
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Highlight of the Vince interview was Vince telling a story about Jim Ross trying to take a dump while a bunch of promoters were in the restroom talking about hiring someone to assassinate Vince.
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Is Vince telling Pat McAfee that Vince is having a match? Or that Pat McAfee is having a match?
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He's telling Pat that Pat is having a match
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Old 03-03-2022, 03:28 PM   #63867
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Old 03-03-2022, 04:01 PM   #63868
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Vince at one point seems to indicate he and Linda are no more while talking about the past

'My wife at that time'
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Old 03-03-2022, 04:07 PM   #63869
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I remember some insider saying once Vince has been together with some lady who lives in Manhattan, NY for years 'unofficially'...so that would make sense
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Old 03-03-2022, 04:23 PM   #63870
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Only saw this clip, could be about HHH?
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Old 03-03-2022, 04:29 PM   #63871
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It could honestly be about ALL of them, though I'd be shocked if it was about Stephanie.
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Old 03-03-2022, 05:06 PM   #63872
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'My wife at that time'
Damn.

How do you let a piece of ass like Linda McMahon go?
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Old 03-03-2022, 06:23 PM   #63873
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Damn.

How do you let a piece of ass like Linda McMahon go?
Let's be honest, Linda being bored with her life and deciding to run for Senate twice was directly responsible for WWE going PG, reverting back to the 1980's model of building the company around one top babyface, and significantly downgraded the quality of the shows. Plus she blew a lit of Vince's money on 2 failed attempts.

Linda was the biggest heel in the family all along.
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Old 03-03-2022, 09:21 PM   #63874
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Vince at one point seems to indicate he and Linda are no more while talking about the past

'My wife at that time'
Lol he very openly discussed cheating on her all the time in media appearances 20+ years ago and nobody could tell if he was fucking around with them or not
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I thought it was kinda fun hear Vince talk about his belief that everything should have branding (no shit, that’s why everyone has five nicknames).

But he really did pick the “most stupendous two night WrestleMania ever” tagline for no reason other than it’ll make people go “stupendous? That’s not a word you hear every day”.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:33 PM   #63876
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