Ratings Thread

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 But what was their net gain? Batman v Superman was a high revenue movie, but nearly flopped due to actual profit. Is WWE making their best profit? Isn't profit, not revenue, most important?

Long term, yes. In a period when you are trying to transform the business, it's understandable to take a profit hit.

The problem is you will never know what the profitability of the company would have been without The Network. I believe it would have been much lower than it is today, but that's making an assumption that WWEs PPV business was in decline. But admittedly is a debatable point.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Originally Posted by The CyNick Long term, yes. In a period when you are trying to transform the business, it's understandable to take a profit hit. The problem is you will never know what the profitability of the company would have been without The Network. I believe it would have been much lower than it is today, but that's making an assumption that WWEs PPV business was in decline. But admittedly is a debatable point.

Transform what business? The sports entertainment business? They're the only game in that town. What is it that they're trying to transform?

And it still didn't answer my question. Are they a profitable company or are they losing money?

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 Transform what business? The sports entertainment business? They're the only game in that town. What is it that they're trying to transform? And it still didn't answer my question. Are they a profitable company or are they losing money?

Very profitable.

They transformed from being PPV dependent to moving into the VOD space. That was a major transformation which retired a lot of investment. It started paying off in 2015, and grew even more in 2016.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Originally Posted by The CyNick Very profitable. They transformed from being PPV dependent to moving into the VOD space. That was a major transformation which retired a lot of investment. It started paying off in 2015, and grew even more in 2016.

Proof?

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 Proof?

Use your Google machine

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by The CyNick If you knew my background, and knew my intelligence, and my experience you would understand why I'm perfectly justified saying that.

Am I the only one who cracks up whenever I hear CyNick reference his intelligence? There are lots of smart people on this forum, brother. You got schooled by no less than three in this thread.

Originally Posted by The CyNick Long term, yes. In a period when you are trying to transform the business, it's understandable to take a profit hit.

That insight there -- that's literally a Yahoo Answers response to the question about revenue vs. profit. This is the intellectual titan you are dealing with, folks. One week of business class and he thinks he's the Trumpster himself.

Originally Posted by The CyNick You must be a lawyer, because you're making something simple very complicated. USA doesn't care what production costs WWE has unless WWE is trying to negotiate that USA pay for part or all of production. Then sure, you need to do a deep dive into costs. But you keep moving the goal posts. First it was lol at WWE for showing cable ratings, then it was they need to submit their "ratings audit", which isn't a real thing, now you're clutching on to production costs. Put everything else aside, just explain why it's lol for WWE to show a slide comparing their cable properties to other cable properties. That's all I need to hear about.

You talk about shifting goal posts, but you are the one constantly shifting them in order to stop BigCrippyZ from lodging that football so far up your ass it knocks your teeth out, son. You shift the posts in your last paragraph. I don't think you were being ironic.

BCZ pretty much explained that the data is manipulated to avoid other data. You can say it makes sense for a business to present itself in the best possible light all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it is worked and doesn't address the overall health of the television product. That is right in line with "what you need to hear," right?

Originally Posted by The CyNick You understand why The Rock was never arrested for threatening to sodomize someone with a shoe, right? That quote you love to use was a joke, but not shockingly, you failed to grasp that.

Jokes are supposed to make people laugh, and not betray a crippling sense of self-awareness in your own lack of arguments. Somehow I think that if you were a super-genius, you'd grasp that and be able to write wittier material. Maybe you can help Melania with her speeches? You seem proficient with Google.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Noid You talk about shifting goal posts, but you are the one constantly shifting them in order to stop BigCrippyZ from lodging that football so far up your ass it knocks your teeth out, son. You shift the posts in your last paragraph. I don't think you were being ironic. BCZ pretty much explained that the data is manipulated to avoid other data. You can say it makes sense for a business to present itself in the best possible light all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it is worked and doesn't address the overall health of the television product. That is right in line with "what you need to hear," right? .

Your goal posts comment makes no sense, when Crippy's lol WWE comment is what I was responding to in the first place. He didn't sufficiently explain why comparing the ratings for a show on cable is lol to compare it to the rest of cable. He made the comment because he didn't understand what he was talking about. Including a reference to ratings being over a year old but it's a year vs year chart. Again, he seemed to not understand what he was reading.

Why would you bring Network ratings into a chart about the health of a cable property. It would be worse to include Network ratings in the total number because it would be comparing apples to oranges. My guess is you don't understand the difference between the two anymore than Crippy does. Which explains why you think he's winning the debate.