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Old 03-09-2021, 04:47 PM   #41
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Apparently the first houror 2 "leaked" for viewers trying to watch Tom and Jerry. Of course nothing seems to have been screen grabbed or spoiled.
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Old 03-09-2021, 05:02 PM   #42
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tom and jerry suddenly got super boring
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Old 03-09-2021, 09:38 PM   #43
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Destor bomb (put you're probably right).

Damn thing needs to come out already. I'm sure it'll draw huge and maybe even cause HBO execs to think about shelling out cash for a sequel, as this is supposedly ending on a cliff hanger. We shall see. But regardless of how good it is I'm sure HBO will be happy the decision to finish the film was made.
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Old 03-09-2021, 10:43 PM   #44
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I'm sure it will draw medium and get largely panned
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Old 03-09-2021, 11:06 PM   #45
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It'll draw more than medium I think. There's been a lot of buzz around it, and outside of Wonder Woman, it is arguably the most anticipated film on their platform. But yeah it'll prob be panned.
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snyder has never made a movie tha wasnt...why start now?
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It'll draw more than medium I think. There's been a lot of buzz around it, and outside of Wonder Woman, it is arguably the most anticipated film on their platform. But yeah it'll prob be panned.
Feel like it is only "anticipated" by Snyder fanboys.... then there are uber nerds like me who don't really think it will be very good but will naturally rush to watch it.... then you have the general public who most received Justice League poorly and Snyder movies even more poorly and are probably just indifferent to the whole thing.
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Zach Snyder of "Sucker Punch" directs Ezra Miller beating women for three hours, and three hours is a lot of time for The Flash.
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Old 03-10-2021, 01:14 AM   #49
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If the movie was good WB wouldn’t have had Joss Whedon reshoot 80% of the movie.

That’s all you need to know.
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Now with that said I’m still excited about this.
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Studio mandated extensive reshoots probably kill more films than they save.
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Old 03-10-2021, 10:27 AM   #52
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Old 03-10-2021, 12:13 PM   #53
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If the movie was good WB wouldn’t have had Joss Whedon reshoot 80% of the movie.

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Well they released the Whedon cut and that was god awful so I'm not sure I completely trust their corporate judgment.
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300?
That got mixed/average reviews. Dawn of the dead is prob his best film, with Watchmen and 300 being right behind it. 1 of this is a remake and 2 are graphic novels written out for him line for line. Damn near anything he makes that's original content sucks. Except Man of Steel, which wasn't very good but wasn't flat out awful like BVS, Sucker Punch and that owl movie.

As far WB goes, maybe they should've just let Snyder finish Justice League and can him afterwards. The Whedon version was terribly boring. But I'm not convinced Snyder's version was gonna be better. Probably prettier to look at with maybe a memorable scene or two. But likely an incoherent mess like most of his movies.
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Whedon version wasn't great, but I enjoyed it. Feel like the Snyder cut will probably remove everything that made me enjoy it, though.
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Well they released the Whedon cut and that was god awful so I'm not sure I completely trust their corporate judgment.
So how bad did the Snyder version have to be if they went with a mediocre Joss Whedon version?
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Old 03-10-2021, 01:30 PM   #57
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didn't Snyder leave due to a family issue? or are you just saying it was such shit, they basically took him off the project.... only to give him the power to make a recut, do re-reshoots and release it
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Old 03-10-2021, 01:33 PM   #58
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His daughter passed away.

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Snyder's daughter unfortunately took her life. He chose to keep working. I 100% believe they ousted him and let him walk away publicly. Whedon had already been brought in and they just said fuck it.
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Joss wasnt why justice league was ass
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He did all the funny bits.

Zach Snyder contributed Superman assaulting Wonder Woman.
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Old 03-11-2021, 12:33 PM   #62
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Funny because going back to re watch none of the bits were that funny or they were oddly placed. Like Batman making a joke after getting owned by a temporarily evil Superman. Or the whole Flash landing on Wonder Woman.

Honestly unless they rewrote and reshot the entire film, it was never going to be more than it was. A lot of Snyder's original scenes were there but changed up via dialogue and prob context.

At the very least, we will get to revisit the Knightmare world, which was one of the highlights in BVS. Trench coat Batman is pretty cool.
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Old 03-15-2021, 12:02 AM   #63
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Critic embargo gets lifted tomorrow morning. Fan reaction has been positive, tho that's no surprise. We'll see if the movie can match Man of Steel's critical reception.
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Ars Technica approves of the cut

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/...ll-the-better/

Sitting at 75% on Rotten Tomatoes with 99 reviews as of now.
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just read a review. its headline: relentlessly boring and endlessly long
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75%b of critics on rotten tomatoes would recommend with over 100 reviews submitted. Metacritic has it at 53%, which is average, but not as many reviews submitted as RT yet.

Seems the consensus is that it's much more realized and better productthan the theatrical cut and while it's not great or excellent it's at least as good or better than Man of Steel. Given BVS being so bad,b that's a helluva rebound even tho it takes 4 hours to get there. Color me excited.
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No it's not. Not based on Metacritic's rating scale. It's considered averaged or mixed. There's also only 33 reviews submitted. Add opposed to over 100 on Rotten Tomatoes.

Nonetheless, it's receiving more praise than the previous 2 films and is being rated on par with Man of Steelon Metacritic. It's rotten tomatoes score is far and away better than any of those 3.
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F any of those review/critic websites..... hate them and how people act like they mean anything at all.....
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They obviously do
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Yeah... In that case hate the people who enable those sites...

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Movie studios enable those sights. They let critics in and use their positive words to run hype for their films. Nothing wrong with critics.
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No it's not. Not based on Metacritic's rating scale. It's considered averaged or mixed. There's also only 33 reviews submitted. Add opposed to over 100 on Rotten Tomatoes.

Nonetheless, it's receiving more praise than the previous 2 films and is being rated on par with Man of Steelon Metacritic. It's rotten tomatoes score is far and away better than any of those 3.
its terrible. I use metacritc a ton. anything below a 70% is rarely worth watching.nevermind a low 50.

Other 53s? George of the Jungle. The sex and the city film. rise of the skywalker. Aladdin (2019). Amazing Spider-Man 2 (film so bad it tanked the franchise.) Eight legged freaks. charlies angels (2000.) Anger Management (possibly the worst sandler vehicle.) I could keep going.

also man of steel was awful. legit fell asleep at the theater.
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metacritic is useful. an aggregate score is usually a strong indicator of quality. Any single review not so much. Good rule of thumb is pass if its under 70% and watch for free if its under 80%
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its terrible. I use metacritc a ton. anything below a 70% is rarely worth watching.nevermind a low 50.

Other 53s? George of the Jungle. The sex and the city film. rise of the skywalker. Aladdin (2019). Amazing Spider-Man 2 (film so bad it tanked the franchise.) Eight legged freaks. charlies angels (2000.) Anger Management (possibly the worst sandler vehicle.) I could keep going.

also man of steel was awful. legit fell asleep at the theater.
You feel that way, sure. By Metacritic's own rating scale, it's considered mixed or average. I too did not care much for Man of Steel. Bunch of good ideas poorly executed.
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You feel that way, sure. By Metacritic's own rating scale, it's considered mixed or average. I too did not care much for Man of Steel. Bunch of good ideas poorly executed.
its just verbiage they use. if a critic gives a movie a 5 its not "pretty decent you should check it out." but thats exactly how you're taking it.5 out of 10 is middling, forgettable and skippable. a 5 is more a movie that wasnt good enough to like and wasnt bad enough to hate. and that sounds exactly like boredom to me.
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