07-30-2020, 10:43 PM | #1401 |
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But even then you'll probably have sycophants like Smeat posting articles going "Well actually...AEW only went out of business because Vince McMahon poisoned the town's water supply and scared people off wrestling forever. It is technically impossible for anyone to be successful and AEW came as close as could possibly be."
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07-31-2020, 05:19 PM | #1403 |
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Oh wow. you mean the Owens/Excalibur incident actually had context to what happened and why?
Who ever would have guessed? |
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07-31-2020, 05:58 PM | #1405 |
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The point I'm making is that people get nailed to the cross without any research or investegation. None of the news sites that initially reported about this incident bothered to do the research on what actually happened despite the fact that it's their job to do so.
I'm not saying that what they did was right, but the knowledge that a black talent pestered them into doing it, and that they immediately knew it was a mistake and apologized is a very important detail to omit, especially in today's enviornment and the way people are judged. The feeling of righteousness has become an addiction for a large portion of society, and it's a fucking cancer on critical thinking. |
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08-04-2020, 10:54 PM | #1409 |
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AEW is probably going to get fucked hard by that rescheduling. Awful timing for them heading into All Out and coming out of it. WWE with an unopposed NXT should see about a 300k increase. This would be a good time to use a star and implement a hot angle.
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08-08-2020, 03:30 PM | #1413 |
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Most of the under 50 crowd would watch NXT on the Network or on delay. How is that so hard for people to understand? Well, Meltzer probably understands it, but it doesn't make a good story. Also, lol @ "nobody will say it." So it's just made up. Cool.
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08-08-2020, 04:01 PM | #1414 |
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Meltzer is such a turd.
"While I can't name names since it was off the record, I can confirm WWE doesn't like it when AEW beats NXT in the ratings." 1. He has no sources, nobody in WWE talks to him. 2. No shit Dave, no shit. |
08-08-2020, 04:26 PM | #1415 |
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Well, no shit, but it also completely ignores that NXT has succeeded in its mission to cap AEW and split that hardcore audience. NXT are also still fighting AEW with one hand tied behind their back using nothing but limited resources found largely on site and they're obviously being patient and still putting their content up on the WWE Network the next day.
It was obvious AEW was going to beat NXT out the gate. That's why NXT debuted earlier. Is it annoying that the new car smell on AEW is lasting this long? Sure. And it's probably frustrating that when NXT does turn the tides, the hardcore fans snap back to give AEW another edge. But they're very obviously being patient with that. It just isn't cool to say and you get called a WWE cocksucker for pointing out the obvious long-term strategy of waiting them out. |
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Sometimes people confuse Meltzer's opinions as him stating facts -- but remember when he said that Vince McMahon was definitely getting involved in NXT. That was obviously bullshit (history has born that out), but it was also unreasonable (I'm sure Vince's Wednesdays were already busy). It would have also been counterproductive. It also missed the point of what NXT is supposed to be (monetized developmental, boutique product, audition for Triple H). It was also either a straight-up lie or something he heard from AEW that he reported as fact because it helps the narrative.
You cannot trust Meltzer on the AEW/NXT "war." I don't believe he's on the take, but his reporting on it is just not balanced. |
08-08-2020, 08:00 PM | #1417 |
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Vince’s involvement could of just been sending the main roster writers over to NXT. That’s something that would definitely be Vince’s call. Also explains the sterile, formulaic feeling of NXT since the TV deal.
I could see some people in NXT being frustrated about the ratings, because if NXT talent didn’t have its hands tied with all these main roster hack writers, and functioned more like the pre TV deal NXT, they’d have a lot more wins. |
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I shouldn’t be mean to the writers. I forget who said it, but apparently the writers have lots of great ideas, but most of it gets shot down by Vince for the crap we end up with.
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For the hardcore internet crowd, letting Gabe Sapolsky play matchmaker probably isn't the worst idea. He knows how to put together the matches that those people want to see. Maybe give him his choose of a few main roster guys and go from there? |
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I don't generally care about that content, and it's when I switch over to see what AEW has going on. |
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08-10-2020, 02:21 AM | #1422 |
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"The people in the mask aren't necessarily the same people who will actually be in the new retribution group." ~ Dave Meltzer
Basically, Dave doesn't know who is under the mask, so we won't know who they are until they actually unmask, and we won't know for sure if they were the masked ones the whole time or just this time. Meltzer for the win. That will be $11.99 |
08-10-2020, 03:06 AM | #1423 |
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I feel sorry for Meltzer. Imagine if this was your job and you had to try and make an interesting newsletter each week and fewer and fewer WWE talents were talking to you.
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08-10-2020, 10:27 AM | #1424 |
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A couple of Bruce Prichards in here.
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08-10-2020, 11:22 AM | #1425 |
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I like how AEW has caused Noid to gradually turn on Meltzer over the past year after always defending the guy previously.
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08-11-2020, 07:29 AM | #1426 |
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He’s reported some grade-A bullshit around the subject. He’s got either a real blindspot or he’s desperate for AEW to succeed since their owner has an Observer University Education.
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Why would anyone think that Jericho vs. OC would lead to an increase in ratings?
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