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Old 09-23-2015, 03:39 PM   #19481
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Seth Rollins has injured Brock, Cena, and Sting all in about 6 months. RAW having its worst ratings basically ever with him as the champion. People need to start facing facts. The man is a liability.
Maybe. My guess is there a lot of factors to ratings. The company is likely must concerned with network subs. They only get released quarterly. The house show business is more immediate and good indicator of the brand not so much Rollins himself.

You also have to invest time into guys to make them stars. It doesn't always happen overnight. It might be time to move on from Rollins, or it could be a waste of 6 months to move on, and he's on the brink of being a hot babyface coming out of a program with HHH.
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Old 09-23-2015, 03:41 PM   #19482
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Promo could have been great, but was so poorly executed.

Another one of these examples where fans want the talent to be great, but the talent isnt great.
Let me dust off my patented "Late To The Party" RAW examination.

Firstly, Paige. The thing is, she isn't *that* poor of a promo. She has done better. Only problem I saw here was the lack of vitriol... she was essentially cutting a heel promo with a face delivery. It wasn't unlike AJ when she went full out Shawn Michaels (and Tamina was her Diesel) when that run started, she didn't seem like she believed her words. In a few weeks, she oozed about as much douchebag as her husband could. Yes, she should have knocked that promo out of the park, but let's not pretend she's horrible.

MEANWHILE, Big Show's promo is how she should have handled that. Top Man jokes and seesawing relevance aside, he came off like he really *believed* what he said about Brock.

New Day featuring Xavier Woods' trombone: I love the snowballing of the whole gimmick. Big E has refined his Southern Baptist Preacher voice to where it is over the top in a good way as opposed to sounding forced, Kofi making the clap-skip a constant thing, and then we have Consequences Creed himself doing a lot of emoting, talking crowd audible smack (which I am a fan of), and taking a seemingly random skill of playing a goddamn trombone into an entertaining embellishment. Especially the corner stomps/irish whip bit that seems to be now a regular thing.

One question: does Kane now work for The Law Offices of Park, Park, & Park? Maybe they'll finally find Abyss chilling with Malibu Kane.

Brown Strawman looks like what would happen if Earthquake were in more of a bodybuilding mold and wore WWI biplane attire to the ring.

Hey! Lillian put a "p" at the end of " CHAMPIONCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAA..... puh" tonight for the Cena/Rollins match.

I wonders omething about Rollins' legit. Between busting Cena's nose and giving Sting an ouchie, he seems like he gets a little hesitant at times with some of his moves and mannerisms. Almost like he's overcompensating making way less fluid movements than he is capable of. Like he is constantly second guessing himself.
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:00 PM   #19483
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My problem with Paige was she rushed everything and stepped all over Charlotte. I liked the idea of the promo, thought it was well scripted, just thought she fell on her face with the delivery.

I also felt like her look coming down the ramp gave away the angle. Which she may have been told to do, so don't know if that's her fault or creative.
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Old 09-23-2015, 06:42 PM   #19484
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Typical response to someone who can't cobble together a counter point.

I feel like Donald Trump up here. Everyone hates on me because I make sound arguments that people feel like they have to disagree with but aren't sure why.
I FEEL like you're just fucking around at this point but I'm not positive...
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Old 09-23-2015, 06:46 PM   #19485
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So I just bought a crap load of WWE tees since they were having the 30% off sale... Really having buyers remorse now
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Old 09-23-2015, 07:38 PM   #19486
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Old 09-23-2015, 11:32 PM   #19487
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Old 09-24-2015, 12:01 AM   #19488
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Old 09-24-2015, 12:09 AM   #19489
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I feel like NWA should really try to rebuild their brand and, maybe not compete with WWE but become a viable second option. They've got the history that other companies suffer from when they try to claim prestige for their titles. Hell, WWE even has to acknowledge them and give them free promotion when talking about their own history a lot. I feel like there's some way where their territory system could actually work to build a national product even in this day and age. I'm just not sure how. Also, they'd probably have to ignore the last few decades completely...
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Old 09-24-2015, 12:59 AM   #19490
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I feel like NWA should really try to rebuild their brand and, maybe not compete with WWE but become a viable second option. They've got the history that other companies suffer from when they try to claim prestige for their titles. Hell, WWE even has to acknowledge them and give them free promotion when talking about their own history a lot. I feel like there's some way where their territory system could actually work to build a national product even in this day and age. I'm just not sure how. Also, they'd probably have to ignore the last few decades completely...

Totally agree. Wish Dixie would sell TNA to the NWA and rebrand it Nonstop Wrestling Action and be their top promotion. They could use the rest as a huge developmental system. Their titles are still pretty prominent, they show up in NJPW and ROH every now and again but they need their own show to really showcase all their talent.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:02 AM   #19491
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smart wrestling-related decisions and Dixie Carter seem to be allergic to each other.....
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:04 AM   #19492
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Which shirts did you get?
Grabbed the two new Undertaker ones, a Sheamus, the Dean Ambrose one with the DA symbol on the front, the black Dolph Ziggler one with pink lettering, the Bray Wyatt with the lamb, and a Bayley because fuck da police... I mean I saved like 60 bucks on the order but it was still like $150 for t-shirts hence the remorse after the fact lol.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:06 AM   #19493
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Christ that's a big haul. I've always wanted to walk into a buffet with a Ryback "HUNGRY" shirt.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:06 AM   #19494
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Dixie Carter should be made to wear a championship belt with the word "dunce" written on it at all times until she gets her ass out of the business.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:09 AM   #19495
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Christ that's a big haul. I've always wanted to walk into a buffet with a Ryback "HUNGRY" shirt.
Yeah, I just recently got a nice little gift of money so I was like "hmm, what should I buy?". Was gonna go with a few games, but I was like "nah, got Fallout 4 preordered and there's nothing else I want". Decided to check out WWE's shop and saw the sale and decided to buy a few. Ended up with a full cart and at the last second decided to just buy them all. Well, all but 2 since I would have gone over my limit. Surprisingly enough a Ryback tee was one of the ones I threw back. XD
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:13 AM   #19496
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There was a Lesnar shirt or two I wanted a while back. Have the one he originally wore upon his return. I've noticed their sizing isn't consistent though. Have 3different CM Punk shirts, all xl, and all varying in fit.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:17 AM   #19497
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Haven't had an official WWE shirt since the first John Cena "Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect" one came out around WM 22. Still had that shirt until last year when it finally crapped out and the sleeve completely came off.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:52 AM   #19498
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Old 09-24-2015, 05:57 AM   #19499
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While I enjoyed the ending of Wrestlemania XX, I didn't digest the "Benoit's 15-year odyssey" line by Ross since he had already won the same belt in its previous incarnation.
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Old 09-24-2015, 07:58 AM   #19503
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I was such a mark back then, I remember thinking Benoit left WCW because he was scared of Nash and the nWo 2000.

Kinda funny watching it though, seeing the "emotion" in Benoit when he wins the title, when even he is thinking "fuck this I'm out of here".
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Old 09-24-2015, 08:01 AM   #19504
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Think I'll be asked to change my shirt if I wear my Hulkamania one to Raw in a few weeks?
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Old 09-24-2015, 08:16 AM   #19505
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Maybe if your in front row or are visible enough on tv. Same if you were to bring a pro-Hogan sign.
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:49 AM   #19508
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I feel like NWA should really try to rebuild their brand and, maybe not compete with WWE but become a viable second option. They've got the history that other companies suffer from when they try to claim prestige for their titles. Hell, WWE even has to acknowledge them and give them free promotion when talking about their own history a lot. I feel like there's some way where their territory system could actually work to build a national product even in this day and age. I'm just not sure how. Also, they'd probably have to ignore the last few decades completely...
I've wanted to see the NWA do this for ages. There actually seems to be somewhat of a stir around alternative products (although they do seem to have trouble finding homes), and the NWA could easily be at the forefront of that.

I often wonder as to who they could make their "travelling champion." Matt Morgan would have been good when he first left TNA. Shelton Benjamin often pops into my mind. I think they need someone with a little bit of name recognition that could hold the belt for a while and not get stale.
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For what it's worth, Bryan Alvarez noted on Wrestling Observer Live today that Vince McMahon is apparently "freaking out" about the decline in WWE TV ratings, something that usually happens every year around this time. WWE usually makes some kind of big change when Vince is "freaking out" about the ratings.
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Expect some interesting changes in January when it comes to Smackdown. As one would expect, they are looking for a new look to the show once they debut on USA and some new ideas for the show. I expect it’ll be like whenever they have a new change, that they load the show up with main events for the first two months. The usual is that once it stops becoming that new toy, it then gradually becomes a show at the level of what it has been.
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This week’s NXT call in the women’s division is to slow down on Eva Marie and build Asuka and Dana Brooke for Bayley after they stop bringing back people from the main roster for the big shows like with Banks on the next Takeover show. They’ve built a rep of having the great women’s title matches in the brand, and are hopeful Bayley vs. Asuka can continue that, and also hope Eva, Brooke and Alexa Bliss, who they want to be the stars of the division, can improve to where they can also have good matches with Bayley
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On the hunt for a Latino star front, WWE made an approach to Carlito, but apparently the money offer was low so he didn’t take it, although they were under the impression he would take it with a better money offer. They wanted him back as part of whatever repackaging they are going to do with Los Matadores that has been talked about but not finalized
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Regarding the Jeff Jarrett TNA ownership, before the deal that was concluded, he owned 29 percent of the company. At least some talent was told for the first time this past week about the proposed India tour, and given the dates of 11/29 to 12/5 and told to keep them free. This would be TV tapings that would take care of much of December and January, up either to the U.K. tour or pretty close to it. The final actual new full episode of Impact that was taped as a show is on 9/30, and then they’ll have to put together makeshift shows from there.
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Bruce Tharpe, who runs the NWA and is a heel manager in New Japan, had a meeting with Spike TV in New York about getting on the station. Spike officials have told us there is interest in bringing back pro wrestling but nothing is on the table right now. They told Tharpe basically the same thing, that right now they aren’t making the move. We’re told they are trying to run new shows that have more appeal to women than pro wrestling. Tharpe said he’s looking at other options for television.
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The lawyer for Thomas Latimer (Bram) attempted to get the no contact rule against him changed to no harmful contact, which would allow him to move back to the apartment he was living in with girlfriend Ashley Allen, but it was turned down. However, the court did allow him to travel overseas between 10/6 and 11/5 for work.
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Before Sting suffered an injury in his match against Seth Rollins at the Night of Champions event on Sunday, the plan was for him to face Bray Wyatt at WrestleMania 32. As of this writing, there is no indication yet on Sting's future as an in-ring competitor. Normally when someone over the age of 50 steps into a WWE ring and gets injured, the company is against the idea of bringing them back.
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Three names in mind for possible opponents for The Undertaker at WrestleMania 32 include Seth Rollins, Braun Strowman or John Cena. From a booking standpoint, Rollins is the top heel of the company and it would make a lot more sense to put this match togeher. As for Cena, officials feel that a match between the two would be good because it's never been done on a big stage since Cena established himself as the top star of the company.
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Four names are being considered as possible opponents for Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania 32. Those names are Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, The Rock and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. Reigns is said to be a viable option because the two have history, however WWE may also be grooming Reigns for the title picture around that time. As for Rollins, the idea would be for the match against Lesnar to be for the WWE Championship, but that would only take place if Rollins still has the title around that time. WWE had plans for The Rock to face Lesnar back in 2014, however those plans were scrapped after The Rock suffered injuries in his match at WrestleMania 29. As for Austin, he has ruled out the match multiple times after it was teased on his WWE Network special with Paul Heyman, but his name continues to still be brought up.
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Since you like working in front of American crowds, could you see yourself leaving Japan and working in America, whether it's for ROH, WWE, or someone else?

I like doing the shows with Ring of Honor, but I don't want to leave Japan. I'm not interested in WWE at all. Many people ask me about WWE, and if I'd go to WWE in the future. They ask me if I'm going now. I will not go. I want to make New Japan Pro-Wrestling bigger. That's my future.


New Japan is getting more popular in the United States. Could you ever seeing it having a live weekly show here, like Raw?

Yes, that's why I'm in New Japan. I'm the one that can bring that.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:09 PM   #19511
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:44 PM   #19512
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:57 PM   #19513
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Cena Undertaker at Wrestlemania is money waiting for print. Especially if it ends up being a retirement angle.
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Oh, and though now unlikely, Wyatt going over Sting at Mania would've been nice. Oh well.
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Old 09-24-2015, 05:03 PM   #19515
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Pro Wrestling Guerilla had a clip on ESPNs Highly Questionable today. Joey Ryan was one of the wrestlers I think but instead of dumping tacs out of a bag it was hard candy and legos that they took bumps on.
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Old 09-24-2015, 05:42 PM   #19516
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Old 09-24-2015, 06:30 PM   #19517
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At the local Fed which we have covered there was one rassler who did that... Only instead of tacs, candy, or Lego, it was just a bag of glitter.
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Old 09-24-2015, 06:40 PM   #19518
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Old 09-24-2015, 06:46 PM   #19519
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I used to love the idea of Carlito being a constant thorn in Cena's side. Not his main event rival or anything (although he could eventually get there), but as someone just waiting for Cena to slip on a banana peel. Loved it when he crashed that Cena promo heading into TLC 2009.
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Hearing that the NWA was trying to get on Spike is interesting. I'd love to Spike get back into the wrestling game. TNA had a good platform there that they squandered. Personally, I think the WWN would be the best bet to put on there -- maybe do an hour of Dragon Gate USA and then an hour of EVOLVE.
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