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Old 12-27-2020, 12:42 PM   #2321
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AEW will be seen as TNA 2.0 in the future and no one will look twice at criticizing it. Right now? Wahhh.
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This whole thread is "The shitty company I tolerate, is better than the shitty company you tolerate"

although I'm not sure if anyone here watches either show and just waits for the ratings to come out.
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Old 12-28-2020, 03:42 PM   #2323
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During the Grilling JR Podcast, Jim Ross gave his thoughts about what WWE's issues are with their product and why the ratings have been down. Ross noted one issue that the company has with their television product.

"They don't have anybody hot," Ross said. "They have nobody that has momentum. Nobody is on the proverbial roll. You can't start, stop, 50-50 booking, I'll beat you with a small package and then you beat me up; how do you get any [momentum]? 'He did the job so I have to give him something back,' what? Bulls--t. Not tonight, not now, it makes no sense."

Also, AEW standings for wrestlers with at least 5 matches in 2020:

Wrestler M W W% L L% D D%
Jon Moxley 23 22 95.7 1 4.3 0 0.0
Austin Gunn 16 15 93.8 1 6.3 0 0.0
Allie 9 8 88.9 1 11.1 0 0.0
Hikaru Shida 29 25 86.2 4 13.8 0 0.0
Abadon 7 6 85.7 1 14.3 0 0.0
MJF 20 17 85.0 3 15.0 0 0.0
Kenny Omega 32 27 84.4 5 15.6 0 0.0
Brian Cage 17 14 82.4 3 17.6 0 0.0
Lance Archer 17 14 82.4 3 17.6 0 0.0
Cody 28 23 82.1 4 14.3 1 3.6
Cash Wheeler 16 13 81.3 3 18.8 0 0.0
Dax Harwood 16 13 81.3 3 18.8 0 0.0
Nyla Rose 21 17 81.0 4 19.0 0 0.0
Miro 5 4 80.0 1 20.0 0 0.0

14 with a winning percent of at least 80%. So NOT 50/50 Booking.

That must be why AEW is CRUSHING in the ratings, right Jim Ross???

He is a so full of shit.
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Old 12-28-2020, 04:24 PM   #2324
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This is where your “analysis” falls down.

He’s talking about an established brand (WWE) with established “stars” that nobody gives a shit about anymore and he’s suggesting one of the reasons why (by no means the only).

You’re comparing it to a company that’s been in existence just over a year, that has very little in the way of established “stars”, that nobody gives a shit about.

AEW are trying to establish stars using wins and losses. You can contest that they’re failing. Take out the guys that have their wins on Dark (Gunn, Allie, Abadon?) and you’ve pretty much got their top guys.
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He’s not saying “Do this and you’ll smash it in the ratings”.

Here’s a guy that comes to mind; Daniel Bryan. First guy to throw his hat into the Rumble and “next inline to face Reigns” literally has a 50/50 win/loss record in 2020 (according to cagematch) and has a 2/2 in singles matches since returning in October.

That’s not to say he won’t start building momentum.
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This is where your “analysis” falls down.

He’s talking about an established brand (WWE) with established “stars” that nobody gives a shit about anymore and he’s suggesting one of the reasons why (by no means the only).

You’re comparing it to a company that’s been in existence just over a year, that has very little in the way of established “stars”, that nobody gives a shit about.

AEW are trying to establish stars using wins and losses. You can contest that they’re failing. Take out the guys that have their wins on Dark (Gunn, Allie, Abadon?) and you’ve pretty much got their top guys.
It doesn't though, because they aren't getting shit in the ratings. Even with AEW clearly pushing certain guys, nobody gives a shit about AEW as a company or their "stars". It's why Jim Ross has to constantly talk about WWE, because even his carny ass knows that if he ONLY talked about AEW, his podcast wouldn't draw shit either.
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Old 12-28-2020, 05:13 PM   #2327
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He’s not saying “Do this and you’ll smash it in the ratings”.

Here’s a guy that comes to mind; Daniel Bryan. First guy to throw his hat into the Rumble and “next inline to face Reigns” literally has a 50/50 win/loss record in 2020 (according to cagematch) and has a 2/2 in singles matches since returning in October.

That’s not to say he won’t start building momentum.
That is exactly what he is saying. WWE doesn't know how to book, and that's why they have lowered ratings.

Meanwhile AEW pushed the "wins and losses matter" from the very start, but somehow they have worse ratings?? If WWE's ratings are bad because of 50/50 booking, and AEW doesn't do that, what is the reason for lower ratings from Dynamite?

So even with the correct booking, AEW sucks so much they can't even draw what bad booking WWE does.

Great logic from JR as always
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Jericho posted a picture of him sucking in his gut and tagged it “#FatJericho @nba” before deleting it. His ego has been hurt.
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Thought I was in the Obsolete Wrestling thread. My bad. Fans’ inability to accept that WWE did something better than AEW is exactly why a lot of people hate that fucking fan-base. Look at the title of this thread now. Look at how the fans reacted when Dylan Bostic confirmed stories about him not getting paid.
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Raw goes a little up. Therefore, it’s reasonable to expect that AEW climbs a little bit too (even though it won’t beat Raw). Because this is how things go.
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*It's incredible how much WWE has fallen. Will be dead in a few years.*

Look at these dude's editing my posts again.

You are exactly why I want AEW to go out of business, because I'll be most happy knowing you are crying in your basements, and you can't edit that away!

FYI, what I said was Raw still beats Dynamite!
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Yeah that's not what I said. People being butthurt again and editing my posts because I said Raw still gets more ratings than Dynamite.
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*It's incredible how much WWE has fallen. Will be dead in a few years.*

Look at these dude's editing my posts again.

You are exactly why I want AEW to go out of business, because I'll be most happy knowing you are crying in your basements, and you can't edit that away!

FYI, what I said was Raw still beats Dynamite!
Quoting myself, just so you will have to edit 2 posts if you want to be cute again.
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People have been shitting on the WWE and TNA forever and a day. But when it’s AEW suddenly people should find something else to do with their time.
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People have been shitting on the WWE and TNA forever and a day. But when it’s AEW suddenly people should find something else to do with their time.
You don't even have to actually shit on AEW, just reply to a post celebrating the downward trend of Raw ratings to point out they are still higher than Dynamite, and fragile people can't handle it.

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The fan-base is so toxic. Look at what happened to Dylan Bostic when he confirmed that the company fucked up its pays. Anyone on here who say these people don’t exist or that people don’t have to deal with them — fuck you.
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Old 12-31-2020, 02:59 PM   #2346
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xrod and nerfect getting picked on by the neighborhood AEW bullies



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Old 12-31-2020, 03:51 PM   #2347
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You never saw the end of that movie, did you?
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Old 12-31-2020, 04:01 PM   #2348
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Lol. Where have all the good posters gone? Oh, that’s right — bad wrestling chased them away.
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Old 12-31-2020, 04:41 PM   #2349
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It's why Jim Ross has to constantly talk about WWE, because even his carny ass knows that if he ONLY talked about AEW, his podcast wouldn't draw shit either.
Are you referring to his nostalgia podcast with Conrad Thompson? AEW is a year old.

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That is exactly what he is saying. WWE doesn't know how to book, and that's why they have lowered ratings.

Meanwhile AEW pushed the "wins and losses matter" from the very start, but somehow they have worse ratings?? If WWE's ratings are bad because of 50/50 booking, and AEW doesn't do that, what is the reason for lower ratings from Dynamite?

So even with the correct booking, AEW sucks so much they can't even draw what bad booking WWE does.

Great logic from JR as always
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You don't even have to actually shit on AEW, just reply to a post celebrating the downward trend of Raw ratings to point out they are still higher than Dynamite, and fragile people can't handle it.
Don’t you constantly complain about people combatting AEW arguments with “BUT WWE...”? You’re literally arguing JR’s point with “BUT AEW...” and admitting to responding to posts about Raw’s Falling ratings with “BUT DYNAMITE...”
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lol he can't even comprehend his own dumb shit
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Old 12-31-2020, 05:18 PM   #2351
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Don’t you constantly complain about people combatting AEW arguments with “BUT WWE...”? You’re literally arguing JR’s point with “BUT AEW...” and admitting to responding to posts about Raw’s Falling ratings with “BUT DYNAMITE...”
This situation is not the same. I am not countering a point somebody here made. I am however wondering why Jim Ross has all this great advice about what WWE is doing bad, while the company he actually works for is doing worse. Why can't he wait to talk shit when the company paying him is actually beating WWE? Answer, because he can't help himself, but that doesn't excuse the hypocrisy of it either.
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:25 PM   #2352
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JR knows he hitched his wagon to a sick horse. He’ll be out when either his contract is up or Tony Khan fires him and he gets paid out in full.
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:27 PM   #2353
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This situation is not the same. I am not countering a point somebody here made.
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You don't even have to actually shit on AEW, just reply to a post celebrating the downward trend of Raw ratings to point out they are still higher than Dynamite, and fragile people can't handle it.
Try again...
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:28 PM   #2354
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He’s right.
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:30 PM   #2355
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Just because you’re a balanced poster doesn’t mean others are.

Look at BigCrippyZ for example.
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:32 PM   #2356
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I mean “JR doesn’t post here so my ‘BUT AEW...’ is acceptable.” is pretty weird but for the sake of focusing on the main issue I’ll just nod and agree on that one.
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He’s right.
He’s not right. Those posts of his I quoted literally contradict each other. It’s clear as day and you know it. I’m one of your few supporters left. Don’t troll me, fucker.
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Try again...
No, that quote has nothing to do with the earlier post I made about JR's comments, that you replied to. It has only to do with posts being edited because my response was not

"haha YES!!!! Raw lost a 3rd of their audience in 3 years we are so Elite!!! CELEBRATION!!!!"

which was the wanted response, and instead all I said was

"still higher than Dynamite's ratings".

The fact that one simple sentence pissed somebody off enough that they went and edited my post has nothing to do with JR's stupid comments.

At least remember which of my comments you were arguing with.

Separate posts, JR is an ahole. Point 1

Other point, I purposely made a but AEW post on a very basic thing, and got edited after like 10 minutes because people are fragile.
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I was originally arguing both points, genius. You decided to respond to the JR one because you figured out some weird excuse of JR not posting here but couldn’t think of an excuse for the other one that didn’t out you as a hypocrite. So I came back to that second one.

So let’s just say “Fuck JR” for now. Pretend I agree.

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Don’t you constantly complain about people combatting AEW arguments with “BUT WWE...”? You’re literally... admitting to responding to posts about Raw’s Falling ratings with “BUT DYNAMITE...”
Here is the post where you do that exact thing...

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You don't even have to actually shit on AEW, just reply to a post celebrating the downward trend of Raw ratings to point out they are still higher than Dynamite, and fragile people can't handle it.
Now are you going to try to come up with a reason that isn’t hypocritical, try to avoid the subject again, or just admit you’re a hypocrite?
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I was originally arguing both points, genius. You decided to respond to the JR one because you figured out some weird excuse of JR not posting here but couldn’t think of an excuse for the other one that didn’t out you as a hypocrite. So I came back to that second one.

So let’s just say “Fuck JR” for now. Pretend I agree.



Here is the post where you do that exact thing...



Now are you going to try to come up with a reason that isn’t hypocritical, try to avoid the subject again, or just admit you’re a hypocrite?
Yes, 100% hypocritical by design. Meant to prove a point, which it did when it caused my post to be edited. But AEW made somebody so mad they took the time to actually edit a post.
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