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#2921 |
Ninja Mod, Esquire
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I'm assuming at some point he'll add the standing SSP.
On the indy scene/ dragon gate his finisher was technically a standing moonsault folllowed immediately by a standing shooting star press. |
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#2922 |
Posts: 58,598
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I am amazed by how Samoa Joe is received by the regular WWE audience. Would definitely love to see AJ Styles in a similar environment.
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#2923 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
Posts: 38,371
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#2924 |
Skibbidy Lock Jaw
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When in doubt.... POWERBOMB
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#2925 |
Large Marge sent me
Posts: 32,353
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Hope Eva Marie starts thinking that
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#2926 |
Posts: 61,520
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#2927 |
Feeling Oof-y
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Safe to assume Sasha/Bayley is *the* Main Event for the Oct 7th show? They've got a lot of ground to make up to get someone in position to challenge Balor for the belt otherwise.
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#2928 |
Large Marge sent me
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He's probably gonna be in a tag match with Joe which would allow the women's match to be the main event without the nxt title being on the line.
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#2929 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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IT'S TYLER!!!!!!!
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#2930 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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Love the NXT Announcer.
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#2931 |
Posts: 61,520
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I think we'll be getting Balor/Joe vs. Jordan/Gable in the Takeover semi-main event.
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#2932 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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Asuka? Good. Nobody will make fun of that name ever.
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#2933 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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Poor Solomon Crowe.
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#2934 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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IT'S BAYLEY!
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#2935 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
Posts: 38,371
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IT'S DA BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2936 |
Posts: 61,520
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Man, what a show this week.
* I loved the opening promo between Tyler Breeze, Adam Rose and Bull Dempsey. It was organic, they were having fun and Adam Rose had MEMORY! I didn't like the idea of Rose just changing gimmicks, but this actually feels like an evolution. The guy can work, he can talk -- he might not be the best ever, but he has a place. I hope he gets involved in Breeze vs. Dempsey next week and turns this into a three-way feud. We've got Breeze vs. Dempsey, but Rose interrupting could build to a Takeover match. Hey, a hook for next week. * Tye Dillinger has suddenly sprung to life. It was a smart move to organically turn him, because he's pretty freakin' over. I love Martin Stone as a jobber too. The guy looks like a hooligan that is just meant to be in a fight. * Apollo Crews impressed me more in his showing against Solomon Crowe than he has so far. Hell, for that matter, Crowe impressed me too. Good move to organically turn him too. I've been using that word a lot. It feels good. Crowe becoming frustrated seems like the natural evolution of his persona. I'd like to see him make an issue out of his loss to Crews and build to a Takeover match. * The Asuka vignette was cut out of the Australian version of the show, but she's already debuting? Sweet. I've always thought there was a place for between one and four joshi on the show (two faces and two heels for the purposes of a tag team match). I hope Asuka clicks with the other girls. And hey, a hook to tune in next week. * The promos from Johnny Gargano, Tommaso Ciampa, Emma and Dana Brooke were edited out of the Australian version too. A good move to have Gargano & Ciampa explain their success to connect them with people. Emma and Brooke are steaming themselves up too. That's three women getting promotion with clear direction so far. Four if you count Devin (and I do). * Oh look...a fourth woman. The Boss getting the "We've got to capture her arriving at Full Sail" treatment makes her seem like a star too. Gimmick. * I hope Jordan & Gable beat The Hype Bros. I NEED them to beat The Hype Bros. * The match between Rhyno & Corbin and Gargano & Ciampa was really well put together. The faces showed fire and acted like this was their one shot to make it. Smart. Rhyno & Corbin kind of got taken by storm and only got what they needed to in. They look good because they advance, but I want to see more out of Gargano & Ciampa. I like teams like them, because they feel like two really good wrestlers who have collaborated to kick down the door on tag team wrestling. Corbin sold the win out of nowhere great too. That facial expression of "Thank fuck I caught him" sold Gargano almost as well as Gargano's offense did. * It seems odd that the established teams and guys with confirmed contracts only get their Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic matches recapped, but I really like it. It's a different way of presenting advancements to viewers, and it sells the importance of NXT's live events -- which they are trying to promote and grow. A very smart move. It'd actually be nice if the main roster took some notice of that, since their formulaic approach with a three-hour RAW must be fatiguing to most audiences. * The Vaudevillains/Blake & Murphy interview segment seemed a little too scripted, but I guess there's a place for that sort of entertainment. They're not really being treated as "heavy players," which is probably my biggest complaint about the tag team division at the moment. Alexa Bliss has got the aura of a star (and not just because she's hot). Blake & Murphy are anchoring themselves more all the time. You just like The Vaudevillains. They set up a Tag Title match for next week. Hey look, a hook for next week. Women featured count: 5 * Nia Jax vignette was aired out of Australia. Women featured count: 6 * Loved the Bayley vs. Mary Dobson match (they called her either "Sara" or "Sarah"). It was simple stuff, but it seemed like a good dynamic test for Bayley. Her against a darker-seeming opponent who tried to go for some submissions put you in Bayley's shoes. I hope there is legitimate interst in Dobson -- she impressed me and looked great. Bayley didn't fuck around at the end, and went into kill-bot mode. Women featured: 8 * Sasha Banks can promo and has got her gimmick down. I worried when she was crying over the adulation their match got, but then she did exactly what I hoped she did. Why does she care how competitive her matches are? Why does anybody, for that matter? She should want to steam-roll over all her opponents, as any wrestler should. The set-up for the Takeover main event was simple, effective and the crowd was so emotionally invested. I think Regal was feeling that too. |
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#2937 |
Hazardous to Your Health
Posts: 21,730
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Caught up with NXT finally. So many newer characters and nearly everyone has something given to them, which is great to see. I would have liked to see the Banks-Bayley match be called an Ironwoman match but it's nitpicking.
Very happy to see Scott Dawson again, massively underrated guy imo. |
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#2938 |
Feeling Oof-y
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That's one of the best thing about NXT; there's always someone new coming through.
Apollo Crews is quickly becoming a highlight, the repackaged Ty Dillinger is going places (had a thought about a Dillinger/Johnny Curtis tag team), Adam Rose will be a great asset, all of the women are doing something. The tag team scene. Everything. |
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#2939 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,316
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The NXT Behind the Curtain ESPN special makes me pull for Adam Rose so hard. Seems like such a nice guy.
Realistically, at 36 and having gone through multiple gimmicks and character transitions it's tough to imagine he'll wind up with something that will lead to sustained success on the main roster. But hopefully if nothing else he can be an asset on NXT and continue to make a living that way. |
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#2940 |
Posts: 3,755
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Does anyone know if Apollo is solid on the mic? Because in the natural charisma and in ring ability is through the roof.
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#2941 |
Posts: 61,520
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He sounds raw, but I'm sure the company can polish him up.
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#2942 |
Posts: 61,520
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Question: Should they be trying to get NXT on network television? I've been thinking about this recently, and the one thing I keep coming back to is "No, it's a hook for the Network." But the more I think about it, the more positives I can see coming out of it.
Advertising dollars means that the guys can be paid more and the product can continue to expand, travel, get hot, etc. It might hook new fans to the NXT experience, which can, in turn, generate more Network subscribers and get people interested in wrestling in general. Right now, everyone in the States has to watch NXT on the Network, yes? That means that the product is only going to have around 1 million viewers a week, tops, right? That's roughly half of what the WWE pulls for SmackDown on average, yeah? Even if they did just a few months on USA or something, just to see what they can pull in -- if it increases fans for NXT, then it might be worth it. You can still keep the Takeover specials on the Network, so you can essentially use them as PPV. The other option is that you could put the Takeover shows on television, or even trial them on PPV -- making them available on the Network later. |
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#2943 |
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I'll go with no. Reason being is once it hits network television, ratings and ad money now become priorities and that's going to force them to have to showcase their top talent weekly instead of the slow builds they get to do now.
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#2944 |
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That's a possibility. I'm probably being too optimistic that they could confidently present their current product to a mainstream public audience without freaking out.
How about an encore presentation on a lower network? I'm not sure the status of the WWE's relationship with SyFy, but when they lose SmackDown, they might accept a later screening of NXT since SmackDown is still one of their highest rated shows, isn't it? It would fit the channel more than SmackDown would, arguably, as I imagine the nerdish following of SyFy would probably value the geek element of professional wrestling presented as a territory. But that way you also have NXT "premiering" on the Network, so if you're subscribing for NXT, then you aren't calling up to cancel, and it might draw new fans in -- potentially a few hundred thousand, which moves the meter at no extra cost to them (and they'll probably be making money off Syfy too). |
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#2945 |
Posts: 61,520
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Keeping that relationship with Syfy might be a good idea for the reason that if the USA Network loses interest in having five hours of WWE programming on a week, and the WWE just can't heat up SmackDown effectively without cutting into RAW, they might want to one day move SmackDown back.
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#2946 |
Posts: 3,755
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A rerun airing might work but then they have to sell advertisers on a show people will be able to tune in to prior to television airings. Not sure it'd be a good sell.
I think it works perfect on the Network. If nothing else they should just can Smackdown at this point. It's become useless. |
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#2947 |
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Well, they're still selling advertisers on SmackDown, and that's basically a RAW recap show.
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#2948 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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It's moving to USA soon so it can't be a recap for long.
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#2949 |
Posts: 3,755
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I honestly don't feel the move will matter for long. They'll make it a big deal for a bit before regressing back to writing as B show.
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#2950 |
Former TPWW Royalty
Posts: 66,650
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If its going to be like every time the WWE moves a show to a new network/channel, I give it till post-SummerSlam before the real regression happens. Maybe earlier if RAW struggles too much during the Road to Mania and post-Mania like last year.
Smackdown is going to benefit from the honeymoon period and Road to Mania focus but will need to carry the momentum till Summerslam. After that is usually when the WWE starts to enter the "don't care anymore" mood for the rest of the year. |
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#2951 |
Skibbidy Lock Jaw
Posts: 88,615
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Just watched this week...
Bayley is so damn over.... she could be huge on the main roster if they ever get their act together up there... Just so invested into Bayley.... Makes me happy.... Sasha Banks also so great... another total package with looks, a character, charisma, and the ability to cut a good promo.... Weird how Asuka gets one promo and debuts next week, where Nia Jax has been getting promos for a month and no sign of when she will debut... Good to see Dana and Emma also keeping their presence known... excited for where this division goes after the next Takeover where Sasha will presumably finally leave NXT "for good"... In the men's side of things... I really dig Tye Dillinger's gimmick. It is a pretty quality gimmick. Sweet theme, too.... |
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#2952 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,316
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Evil Emma gets hotter every time I see her. Holy fuck.
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#2953 |
President of Freedonia
Posts: 58,316
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Breeze/Crews at the next Takeover should be an excellent match, even though it likely will spell yet another Takeover loss for Breeze.
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#2954 |
New Arcade God
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#2955 |
New Arcade God
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And I think the ref has something for Eve angle is being played
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#2956 |
President of Freedonia
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The Vaudevillians
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#2957 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
Posts: 38,371
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#2958 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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"We ran out these two girls making it big on Raw out of NXT!"
"We'll do the same to you!" -Dana Brooke, paraphrased. |
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#2959 |
Skibbidy Lock Jaw
Posts: 88,615
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Never knew "Asuka" was supposed to be pronounced as "Ass-ka"... seems like a "bad name" now..... Always thought it was "Ah-soo-ka"....
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#2960 |
Skibbidy Lock Jaw
Posts: 88,615
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I both enjoy and dislike that the Dusty Rhodes Classic has been happening on the house shows....
On one hand it is pretty rad that they are doing "stuff that matters" on house shows, and I love the "old school" feel of Kyle Edwards from the studio providing updates. On the other hand, I don't get to see big moments like Dash & Dawson upset the Vaudevillains. Speaking of Dash & Dawson... don't like how they got rid of Dash's last name, or Dawson's first name.... Makes them seem "less legit" right when they are trying to be presented as "more legit"... |
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