Football Talk 2004/2005 (Soccer) - Page 71

**The Mask** · 02-11-2005, 12:44 AM

Ours is easier, but unlike most other teams, we generally play terrible against smaller clubs. When you see how we hammer teams like Arsenal and Liverpool on our day, and then go and make a meal of a match at some place like Pompey where we should be winning every time, it's a bit unnerving.

Hopefully knowing what's at stake is going to have the players digging in. I think we have a chance once smith gets back to fitness. The attitude of him, Heinze, Keane and Rooney are probably going to be what decides this for us.

I'm impressed with our team though, as a whole, and we seem to be weeding out the shit finally, so hopefully if not this season, something big is on the cards next.

We have the added shit of Glazer though, so it's hard to tell.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 02-11-2005, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dazz

You all dissapoint me, I have been listing our hard run in for months, and NOW you pay attention, we have to fecking travel to FOUR hard away grounds and have a hard home match, far from over, far from over.

We've all learned to ignore you

**Ogen** · 02-11-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA

does Northern Ireland have like the worst soccer team ever? they lost to Canada yesterday so im curious.

Yeah their pretty terrible not like the Republic

they set either a world or a European record for longest without a goal last year think it was 12 games or something.

**Rob** · 02-12-2005, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BCWWF

I said that the United States has a legitimate chance to win the World Cup in the next 20 years and all the Irish posters started hating on me

I said the same thing around 1994. I don't believe it for a second now though. They'll have talented players but they'll never do it. If England can't then USA have no chance.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 07:56 AM

Fuck. Well done Beattie, you stupid fat dickhead. So much for a tough game for Chelsea.

**Cactus Sid** · 02-12-2005, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto

Fuck. Well done Beattie, you stupid fat dickhead. So much for a tough game for Chelsea.

Everton are defending pretty well, and I can see this pitch causing a few problems for the Chelsea players.

Tiago is utter wank.

**Cactus Sid** · 02-12-2005, 08:28 AM

Also, I'd put money on Tim Cahill getting sent off, unless he gets taken off first.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 08:38 AM

If Beattie had stayed on the pitch, Everton would have a great chance of winning this game. As it stands, Everton will probably have to battle out a draw. They have no threat going forward now, no support for Bent.

William Gallas is the fucking man, though. Every time I have seen Chelsea this season, he has been magnificent. It's like having a Mikael Silvestre (pace, strength, agility) except with the added bonus of a footballing brain and a keen sense of defensive awareness.

John Terry gets all the praise at Chelsea, and he has had a great season, but for me Gallas is the main man in that defence. He does his own job well, and clears up everything that Terry gets caught flat-footed on. He's always there or there-abouts when a ball manages to get behind them. Great defender.

**aenima** · 02-12-2005, 08:39 AM

I couldn't really care less about this match. If Everton win United are bound to slip up against City.

I love Beattie's breasts, though. I bet his bird loves playing with those wobbly sacks of fat.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 08:41 AM

Tiago is fucking useless, how he thinks he can shoot is beyond me, Joey Cole

keep going, your the only one looking like doing any damage.

This pitch is horrendous, on the plus side we are attakcing the half which isn't as bad, but on the bad side we are defending the side that is shit, and Everton must be used to the pitch so I guess they should be abke to capitalise on it.

45 minutes though is enough for us to get settled in really, come on Jose, get that spastic Tiago off the pitch. After 75 minutes, if it's 0-0, I say we go MArtin Jol style and stick out big 26 up front to try and nab a goal, Gudjohnsen should some off for Carvalho is it's still 0-0 then.

And BEattie really didnt have a reason to do that, he fucked things up for no reason at all, stupid fat cunt.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto

If Beattie had stayed on the pitch, Everton would have a great chance of winning this game. As it stands, Everton will probably have to battle out a draw. They have no threat going forward now, no support for Bent.

William Gallas is the fucking man, though. Every time I have seen Chelsea this season, he has been magnificent. It's like having a Mikael Silvestre (pace, strength, agility) except with the added bonus of a footballing brain and a keen sense of defensive awareness.

John Terry gets all the praise at Chelsea, and he has had a great season, but for me Gallas is the main man in that defence. He does his own job well, and clears up everything that Terry gets caught flat-footed on. He's always there or there-abouts when a ball manages to get behind them. Great defender.

John Terry gets all the praise because of the amount of arial balls he wins, and the way he a;ways jumps in front of shots, you watch, Terry will blocka hard shot (prolly from Carsley), it might hit Terry's hand, but he will block it.

And yeah without Beattie Everton don't look like scoring, it's got 0-0 written all over it.

**Cactus Sid** · 02-12-2005, 09:17 AM

Fucking hell, he didn't miss

**Cactus Sid** · 02-12-2005, 09:17 AM

Great play by Gallas there.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dazz

John Terry gets all the praise because of the amount of arial balls he wins, and the way he a;ways jumps in front of shots, you watch, Terry will blocka hard shot (prolly from Carsley), it might hit Terry's hand, but he will block it.

A defender is supposed to win aerial balls and block shots. That is his job.

But, for fuck's sake, the commentators go overboard on Terry. Like earlier, an aimless ball forward, shite pass by Everton, Terry basically trots over and clears it, and Parry goes off on one about what a fantastic piece of defending it is and how great Terry has been all season.

Don't get me wrong, Terry has had a great season and is a good defender in that style, but it's ridiculous how the media cream themselves over him.

Game's over now.

**aenima** · 02-12-2005, 09:37 AM

You dirty Man United supporter, you're worse than Simon.

ahahaha great play by Gallas, there. It was a throwback to my old school days, when all the spastics and gingers would play.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto

A defender is supposed to win aerial balls and block shots. That is his job.

But, for fuck's sake, the commentators go overboard on Terry. Like earlier, an aimless ball forward, shite pass by Everton, Terry basically trots over and clears it, and Parry goes off on one about what a fantastic piece of defending it is and how great Terry has been all season.

Don't get me wrong, Terry has had a great season and is a good defender in that style, but it's ridiculous how the media cream themselves over him.

Game's over now.

The point is that Terry does it more then other players, and thats why he gets the credit, he does the more memorable things in the match. Like today, Gallas will get more credit as he had a big hand in the goal and stopped that Bent shot.

And Terry is English, is the man, and you are just jealous that you'll never be a future England captain.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 10:01 AM

What the fuck is the matter with these people on Sky? What retards, MotD picked it up after a few games, and only NOW have Sky realised the messages the players give each other.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 10:05 AM

Terry doesn't do it more than other players.

It is pretty much because he is English. Big Dickie Dunne should be Player of the Season. Look at him. He's a big fat bastard, but with a lot of it coming down to his form, Man City have the 3rd best defensive record in the Premiership. He's been MoM against Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal during the season, and has helped City keep clean sheets twice against Chelsea and once against Manchester United.

I love him. I don't see what makes Terry so much better, since they are the same kind of player really. The praise Ledley King gets makes me even more furious, though, considering how crap Spurs are.

Anyway, back to Gallas: he's great. Been consistently one of the best defenders in the Premiership since he joined Chelsea. I'm not surprised Wenger tapped him up a couple of seasons back, he'd make them unbeatable.

**aenima** · 02-12-2005, 10:19 AM

Stop going on about Richard Dunne. I prefer it when you spunk over the good Irish players, like like Keano or Andy O'Brien, with his enormous nose.

Looks like a Mental Tim day, by the way. He's been talking about how shit Everton are and how much he hates them. If Liverpool lose to Birmingham today he's going to go bonkers.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 10:22 AM

Gallas likes a little handball every now and then, thats his main problem, they didn't show it Vs Pompey at the Bridge, but I could see it from my seat, that the Yak was waiting for the ball to drop, it was about in like with his chest and was gunna smash it when it dropped, and Gallas came running in and handled it out the way then hoofed it up the pitch, no joke, absolutley unbelievable that he even did it, the refs view was obstructed so he got away with it.

Terry does get more praise for being English, much like Ferdinand really, yet you still love him. But Terry has more affect and influence on how well we defend then billy boy, I'd sooner lose Gallas then Terry.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 10:30 AM

Liam O'Brien, Andy O'Brien
Any any any O'Brien
who put the ball in the Mackems net?
O'Brien, O'Brien

**Wengerland** · 02-12-2005, 11:00 AM

Yeah Beattie's a dick.

2-0 down at Ipswich, no surprise really, but de Vries' first start and he scores an own goal

Same thing happened to Nalis at Chelsea last year.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 11:12 AM

They all learnt off the master (I.E SINCLAIR)

**Wengerland** · 02-12-2005, 11:57 AM

Good old mad Frank, he's probably got 3 times as many own goals as he's scored at the right end in his career.

Leicester lost 2-1, which wasn't too bad considering we were battered 6-1 there 2 seasons ago. Think that's pretty much killed off any lingering play off hopes though, future looks bright though.

**Cactus Sid** · 02-12-2005, 12:13 PM

2-0 against the brum

**Wengerland** · 02-12-2005, 12:27 PM

Bruno and Muzzy

Heskey was meant to have gone down easily for the penalty though, doesn't sound like him

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aenima

Stop going on about Richard Dunne. I prefer it when you spunk over the good Irish players, like like Keano or Andy O'Brien, with his enormous nose.

Looks like a Mental Tim day, by the way. He's been talking about how shit Everton are and how much he hates them. If Liverpool lose to Birmingham today he's going to go bonkers.

Richard Dunne is far better than Andy O'Brien. Dunne always had the potential to be an excellent defender, he just loved the smokes, pints and kebabs far too much.

I remember back when he was really fat, he played for us against Holland away, and put in a stellar performance. He'll force his way past big nose into the Irish 11, and will dominate everyone with his 16 stones of pure brilliance.

In all seriousness, he has genuinely been one of the best defenders in the Premiership this season.

Spurs are really fucking shit.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazz

Terry does get more praise for being English, much like Ferdinand really, yet you still love him. But Terry has more affect and influence on how well we defend then billy boy, I'd sooner lose Gallas then Terry.

I love Ferdinand because he's fucking brilliant. The whole idea of Terry being anywhere near as good as Rio Ferdinand is one of the most laughable and ridiculous arguements that any football fan could come up with.

The difference is that the whole world recognises Rio Ferdinand's talent, whereas we all realise Terry is a big hoofer who gets his head to the ball but not much else.

Ferdinand could play anywhere on the pitch and still be MoM. Even in goals, I bet.

**Cactus Sid** · 02-12-2005, 01:04 PM

Robinson is doing the work of 5 men at the moment.

**Danny Electric** · 02-12-2005, 01:14 PM

Gutted for Hoult.

**Wengerland** · 02-12-2005, 01:19 PM

Seen West Brom at Fulham and the first half of this game and they've been by far the better side in both games but manage to shoot themselves in the foot.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto

The difference is that the whole world recognises Rio Ferdinand's talent, whereas we all realise Terry is a big hoofer who gets his head to the ball but not much else.

Ferdinand could play anywhere on the pitch and still be MoM. Even in goals, I bet.

Your a fucking idiot if you really believe that, players rarley get the better of Terry, he is a magnificent tackler and when he plays alongside that spastic Wayne Bridge, it's not hard to do what he does. People rarely get the better of him, and if Opta Stats had the stats for most amount of shots blocked by an outfield player, I bet he'd shit all over the rest of the people in the table.

HE does everything so well, he doesn't panic, he only hoofs it when he doesn't have many options, he often tries to play a ball down the flank to Duff or Robben, or just squares it to Bridge, hoofing it is rare.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 01:33 PM

I'm glad he blocks so many shots and remains so calm, but I never said he wasn't a good player, I just maintain he is in no way the best defender in the Premiership, or even world class. Undeniably his style is that of a keep it simple defender, just get a knee or an ankle or an ear to it and get the ball away anywhere.

That's fine, but I don't see how he's supposed to be leagues ahead of the like of Gareth Southgate at Middlesbrough, who makes plenty of vital tackles and interceptions.

Gallas is the main man for me. He's always there when there is danger. Big John gets caught flat-footed or misjudges the flight of the ball, and William is sprinting back to clear up the mess. A pure athlete and a wonderful footballer.

**Danny Electric** · 02-12-2005, 01:42 PM

Good goal by Defoe.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 01:43 PM

Gallas has made more mistkes this seson, but thats when he plays at left back, Terry could be a wee bit faster but thats his only flaw.

And your reply made no sense as you said all Terry does is hoofs the ball, gts his head to the ball and nothing else, I was pointingout the other stuff he does.

Also, What a goal from Jermaine Defoe

**Rob** · 02-12-2005, 01:52 PM

Terry is good but he is well overrated. You'd think he is the second coming the way people speak about him.

Went to see QPR vs. Preston today. Worst game I have ever seen live and I have seen more than a few Wimbledon and Dundee United bores.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 01:53 PM

I don't know, Dazz, any time I have seen Chelsea this season I see Terry get constantly get caught out by balls in behind him. Often Gallas cleans it up for him with his pace. Nothing comes of it, because he's there to sweep up, or Cech will be invariably in the right place to save it.

One example where it worked for the opposition was Manchester United in the 2nd leg of the Carling Cup semi: ball over the top, Terry caught flat footed and ball-watching against Giggs. Gallas couldn't get across to cover in time and Giggs' finish gave Cech no chance.

Gallas doesn't get nearly enough credit.

Wayne Bridge is crap, though.

**Dazz** · 02-12-2005, 10:16 PM

Wayne Bridge is fucking horse shit, if ever you are feeling bored, go to www.cfc-net.co.uk and tell those mother fuckers that, I have spent 'nuff time dissin Bridge and no one fucking backs me up on there, people don't seem to realise that he is incapable of controlling a ball or using his right foot.

I knew you'd use that example, as its the only time Terry has been caught out this season, if you really want to point out players flaws, then Ferdinand should have prevented our first goal in the game, Drogba had the ball, Neville was defending, and Rio basically stood behind him, so no matter what Drogba did, Rio would be inneffective, and the ball was squared to Franky for a simple finish. Had Ferdinand have been better positioned he could well have prevented it.

I think Gallas could have done better for their goal, and Terry didn't do much wrong, it was just fucking class from Ryan Giggs. Chelsea fans give Gallas nuff credit. Like with Makelele, you won't find a Chelsea fan who doesn't appreciate how much he does.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 10:22 PM

Silvestre was at fault for that goal. Rio was covering the near post, Keane had tracked back to cover the edge of the box, Heinze was covering the far post and Silvestre was fast asleep. He saw Lampard trot in behind Keane and did nothing.

Rio had to cover Neville in case Drogba got in behind him.

That's why I think Silvestre is shite. He's constantly caught napping at the back. He was awful in that match, caught ball-watching constantly. Rio does well despite him.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 02-12-2005, 10:26 PM

Oh yeah, that example was one where the opposition scored from it. That's why I brought it up. There were a few cases of Terry being caught flat-footed against Blackburn, but their lack of quality and support up front meant nothing was going to happen.

Samuel E'too with his pace will cause Terry a few problems. Barca will certainly tell him to pull onto Terry's shoulder and burn him from balls through by Ronaldinho.

02-11-2005, 12:44 AM	#2801
The Mask That Entenbrot, The Mask Posts: 56,852	Ours is easier, but unlike most other teams, we generally play terrible against smaller clubs. When you see how we hammer teams like Arsenal and Liverpool on our day, and then go and make a meal of a match at some place like Pompey where we should be winning every time, it's a bit unnerving. Hopefully knowing what's at stake is going to have the players digging in. I think we have a chance once smith gets back to fitness. The attitude of him, Heinze, Keane and Rooney are probably going to be what decides this for us. I'm impressed with our team though, as a whole, and we seem to be weeding out the shit finally, so hopefully if not this season, something big is on the cards next. We have the added shit of Glazer though, so it's hard to tell.

02-12-2005, 07:56 AM	#2805
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	Fuck. Well done Beattie, you stupid fat dickhead. So much for a tough game for Chelsea.

02-12-2005, 08:28 AM	#2807
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Also, I'd put money on Tim Cahill getting sent off, unless he gets taken off first.

02-12-2005, 08:38 AM	#2808
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	If Beattie had stayed on the pitch, Everton would have a great chance of winning this game. As it stands, Everton will probably have to battle out a draw. They have no threat going forward now, no support for Bent. William Gallas is the fucking man, though. Every time I have seen Chelsea this season, he has been magnificent. It's like having a Mikael Silvestre (pace, strength, agility) except with the added bonus of a footballing brain and a keen sense of defensive awareness. John Terry gets all the praise at Chelsea, and he has had a great season, but for me Gallas is the main man in that defence. He does his own job well, and clears up everything that Terry gets caught flat-footed on. He's always there or there-abouts when a ball manages to get behind them. Great defender.

02-12-2005, 08:39 AM	#2809
aenima I Have Thalidomide Arms Posts: 62	I couldn't really care less about this match. If Everton win United are bound to slip up against City. I love Beattie's breasts, though. I bet his bird loves playing with those wobbly sacks of fat.

02-12-2005, 08:41 AM	#2810
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	Tiago is fucking useless, how he thinks he can shoot is beyond me, Joey Cole keep going, your the only one looking like doing any damage. This pitch is horrendous, on the plus side we are attakcing the half which isn't as bad, but on the bad side we are defending the side that is shit, and Everton must be used to the pitch so I guess they should be abke to capitalise on it. 45 minutes though is enough for us to get settled in really, come on Jose, get that spastic Tiago off the pitch. After 75 minutes, if it's 0-0, I say we go MArtin Jol style and stick out big 26 up front to try and nab a goal, Gudjohnsen should some off for Carvalho is it's still 0-0 then. And BEattie really didnt have a reason to do that, he fucked things up for no reason at all, stupid fat cunt.

02-12-2005, 09:17 AM	#2812
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Fucking hell, he didn't miss

02-12-2005, 09:17 AM	#2813
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Great play by Gallas there.

02-12-2005, 09:37 AM	#2815
aenima I Have Thalidomide Arms Posts: 62	You dirty Man United supporter, you're worse than Simon. ahahaha great play by Gallas, there. It was a throwback to my old school days, when all the spastics and gingers would play.

02-12-2005, 10:01 AM	#2817
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	What the fuck is the matter with these people on Sky? What retards, MotD picked it up after a few games, and only NOW have Sky realised the messages the players give each other.

02-12-2005, 10:05 AM	#2818
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	Terry doesn't do it more than other players. It is pretty much because he is English. Big Dickie Dunne should be Player of the Season. Look at him. He's a big fat bastard, but with a lot of it coming down to his form, Man City have the 3rd best defensive record in the Premiership. He's been MoM against Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal during the season, and has helped City keep clean sheets twice against Chelsea and once against Manchester United. I love him. I don't see what makes Terry so much better, since they are the same kind of player really. The praise Ledley King gets makes me even more furious, though, considering how crap Spurs are. Anyway, back to Gallas: he's great. Been consistently one of the best defenders in the Premiership since he joined Chelsea. I'm not surprised Wenger tapped him up a couple of seasons back, he'd make them unbeatable.

02-12-2005, 10:19 AM	#2819
aenima I Have Thalidomide Arms Posts: 62	Stop going on about Richard Dunne. I prefer it when you spunk over the good Irish players, like like Keano or Andy O'Brien, with his enormous nose. Looks like a Mental Tim day, by the way. He's been talking about how shit Everton are and how much he hates them. If Liverpool lose to Birmingham today he's going to go bonkers.

02-12-2005, 10:22 AM	#2820
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	Gallas likes a little handball every now and then, thats his main problem, they didn't show it Vs Pompey at the Bridge, but I could see it from my seat, that the Yak was waiting for the ball to drop, it was about in like with his chest and was gunna smash it when it dropped, and Gallas came running in and handled it out the way then hoofed it up the pitch, no joke, absolutley unbelievable that he even did it, the refs view was obstructed so he got away with it. Terry does get more praise for being English, much like Ferdinand really, yet you still love him. But Terry has more affect and influence on how well we defend then billy boy, I'd sooner lose Gallas then Terry.

02-12-2005, 10:30 AM	#2821
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	Liam O'Brien, Andy O'Brien Any any any O'Brien who put the ball in the Mackems net? O'Brien, O'Brien

02-12-2005, 11:00 AM	#2822
Wengerland Theo Zagorakis Posts: 7,148	Yeah Beattie's a dick. 2-0 down at Ipswich, no surprise really, but de Vries' first start and he scores an own goal Same thing happened to Nalis at Chelsea last year.

02-12-2005, 11:12 AM	#2823
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	They all learnt off the master (I.E SINCLAIR)

02-12-2005, 11:57 AM	#2824
Wengerland Theo Zagorakis Posts: 7,148	Good old mad Frank, he's probably got 3 times as many own goals as he's scored at the right end in his career. Leicester lost 2-1, which wasn't too bad considering we were battered 6-1 there 2 seasons ago. Think that's pretty much killed off any lingering play off hopes though, future looks bright though.

02-12-2005, 12:13 PM	#2825
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	2-0 against the brum

02-12-2005, 12:27 PM	#2826
Wengerland Theo Zagorakis Posts: 7,148	Bruno and Muzzy Heskey was meant to have gone down easily for the penalty though, doesn't sound like him

02-12-2005, 01:04 PM	#2829
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Robinson is doing the work of 5 men at the moment.

02-12-2005, 01:14 PM	#2830
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Gutted for Hoult.

02-12-2005, 01:19 PM	#2831
Wengerland Theo Zagorakis Posts: 7,148	Seen West Brom at Fulham and the first half of this game and they've been by far the better side in both games but manage to shoot themselves in the foot.

02-12-2005, 01:33 PM	#2833
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	I'm glad he blocks so many shots and remains so calm, but I never said he wasn't a good player, I just maintain he is in no way the best defender in the Premiership, or even world class. Undeniably his style is that of a keep it simple defender, just get a knee or an ankle or an ear to it and get the ball away anywhere. That's fine, but I don't see how he's supposed to be leagues ahead of the like of Gareth Southgate at Middlesbrough, who makes plenty of vital tackles and interceptions. Gallas is the main man for me. He's always there when there is danger. Big John gets caught flat-footed or misjudges the flight of the ball, and William is sprinting back to clear up the mess. A pure athlete and a wonderful footballer.

02-12-2005, 01:42 PM	#2834
Danny Electric dirty irani Posts: 11,956	Good goal by Defoe.

02-12-2005, 01:43 PM	#2835
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	Gallas has made more mistkes this seson, but thats when he plays at left back, Terry could be a wee bit faster but thats his only flaw. And your reply made no sense as you said all Terry does is hoofs the ball, gts his head to the ball and nothing else, I was pointingout the other stuff he does. Also, What a goal from Jermaine Defoe

02-12-2005, 01:52 PM	#2836
Rob Part time poster Posts: 22,963	Terry is good but he is well overrated. You'd think he is the second coming the way people speak about him. Went to see QPR vs. Preston today. Worst game I have ever seen live and I have seen more than a few Wimbledon and Dundee United bores.

02-12-2005, 01:53 PM	#2837
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	I don't know, Dazz, any time I have seen Chelsea this season I see Terry get constantly get caught out by balls in behind him. Often Gallas cleans it up for him with his pace. Nothing comes of it, because he's there to sweep up, or Cech will be invariably in the right place to save it. One example where it worked for the opposition was Manchester United in the 2nd leg of the Carling Cup semi: ball over the top, Terry caught flat footed and ball-watching against Giggs. Gallas couldn't get across to cover in time and Giggs' finish gave Cech no chance. Gallas doesn't get nearly enough credit. Wayne Bridge is crap, though.

02-12-2005, 10:16 PM	#2838
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	Wayne Bridge is fucking horse shit, if ever you are feeling bored, go to www.cfc-net.co.uk and tell those mother fuckers that, I have spent 'nuff time dissin Bridge and no one fucking backs me up on there, people don't seem to realise that he is incapable of controlling a ball or using his right foot. I knew you'd use that example, as its the only time Terry has been caught out this season, if you really want to point out players flaws, then Ferdinand should have prevented our first goal in the game, Drogba had the ball, Neville was defending, and Rio basically stood behind him, so no matter what Drogba did, Rio would be inneffective, and the ball was squared to Franky for a simple finish. Had Ferdinand have been better positioned he could well have prevented it. I think Gallas could have done better for their goal, and Terry didn't do much wrong, it was just fucking class from Ryan Giggs. Chelsea fans give Gallas nuff credit. Like with Makelele, you won't find a Chelsea fan who doesn't appreciate how much he does.

02-12-2005, 10:22 PM	#2839
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	Silvestre was at fault for that goal. Rio was covering the near post, Keane had tracked back to cover the edge of the box, Heinze was covering the far post and Silvestre was fast asleep. He saw Lampard trot in behind Keane and did nothing. Rio had to cover Neville in case Drogba got in behind him. That's why I think Silvestre is shite. He's constantly caught napping at the back. He was awful in that match, caught ball-watching constantly. Rio does well despite him.

02-12-2005, 10:26 PM	#2840
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	Oh yeah, that example was one where the opposition scored from it. That's why I brought it up. There were a few cases of Terry being caught flat-footed against Blackburn, but their lack of quality and support up front meant nothing was going to happen. Samuel E'too with his pace will cause Terry a few problems. Barca will certainly tell him to pull onto Terry's shoulder and burn him from balls through by Ronaldinho.