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Old 09-21-2015, 05:41 PM   #19441
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:42 PM   #19442
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Just looked like the grown ups had gone out for a minute and the kids were writing on the walls in crayon. The humanity of it all.
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:43 PM   #19443
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That seems to happen a lot around here lately...
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:42 PM   #19444
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:46 PM   #19445
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Can we take this moment to enjoy Ric Flair beating up Mick Foley's book?
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Old 09-21-2015, 11:17 PM   #19446
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It's fucking astonishing to me that some of the most iconic Attitude Era moments happened in consecutive weeks. Austin rides Zamboni into arena/Kane Undertaker break Vince's leg, then the next week Vince is in the hospital, which means Socko/Dr. Austin, and the week after that, Vince comes back and Austin pours cement into the Corvette. Then there's the PPV and the night afterwards is BANG 3:16.

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Old 09-21-2015, 11:43 PM   #19447
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:59 AM   #19448
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Old 09-22-2015, 01:45 PM   #19449
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Old 09-22-2015, 03:04 PM   #19450
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Old 09-22-2015, 03:31 PM   #19451
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Was not on the level of any of AJ Lee's promos, but was alright....
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Old 09-22-2015, 04:08 PM   #19452
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how am I being ridiculous? Differences of opinion are good for a place like this, no?

Besides, you guys begged me to come back. Not the other way around.
A lack of logic and completely asinine statements ignoring reality are what makes this ridiculous. I didn't beg you back; although I was glad when you returned. Have your fun, but this shit became stupid quite a few posts back.
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:50 PM   #19453
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A lack of logic and completely asinine statements ignoring reality are what makes this ridiculous. I didn't beg you back; although I was glad when you returned. Have your fun, but this shit became stupid quite a few posts back.
I challenge you to show me something I said that lacks logic. You're just defensive because I dont agree with everything you're saying and you have a tough time defending your position on a subject.

Its good to have your opinions, and be passionate about them. But if you cant back your points with any facts or reason, and resort to just calling someone's opinions asinine it shows a lack of ability to debate a point.
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:51 PM   #19454
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Promo could have been great, but was so poorly executed.

Another one of these examples where fans want the talent to be great, but the talent isnt great.
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It's fucking astonishing to me that some of the most iconic Attitude Era moments happened in consecutive weeks. Austin rides Zamboni into arena/Kane Undertaker break Vince's leg, then the next week Vince is in the hospital, which means Socko/Dr. Austin, and the week after that, Vince comes back and Austin pours cement into the Corvette. Then there's the PPV and the night afterwards is BANG 3:16.

Just bananas.
Was Kaientai and Mae Young on consecutive weeks?
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:48 PM   #19456
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I challenge you to show me something I said that lacks logic. You're just defensive because I dont agree with everything you're saying and you have a tough time defending your position on a subject.

Its good to have your opinions, and be passionate about them. But if you cant back your points with any facts or reason, and resort to just calling someone's opinions asinine it shows a lack of ability to debate a point.
I quoted a pretty clearly illogical point back in post #19457 that you ignored. Probably stuff like that Noid is kinda exasperated with. Now it's come down to "No, YOU don't have facts or reason! YOU'RE having a tough time defending your subject!" and there's not much more point to even try.
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#fan gets it. At least he can tell me why Alex Riley sucks without an argument from authority, using masked men or resorting to ad hominem projections. I'm starting to sound like fucking Kane Knight...
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I thought I told you guys to spin-off arguing with The CyNick into a new thread....
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TPWW defying Lock Jaw's orders. It's a regular mutiny.
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If WWE was hoping the buzz from the Night of Champions PPV was going to help them in the recent audience drain vs. Monday Night Football, they had their faith misplaced. The 9/21 edition of Raw, coming off the PPV, garnered just 3,349,000 viewers which is not only down from last week's 3,397,000 viewers, but is the lowest audience for the series (beyond a Christmas holiday episode) since it expanded to a three hour version in July 2012.

The audience dropped over the course of the three hours, showing that WWE's audience was not hooked by John Cena vs. Seth Rollins as the main event, nor the return of Kane to television. The 8 PM hour brought in 3,420,000 viewers for the first hour, then dropped to 3,368,000 viewers before bottoming out in the final hour at just 3,260,000 viewers.

The third hour would be the lowest audience for the 10-11 PM hour of Raw since the series expanded to three hours. Unless there was an error in how the audience was calculated last night, WWE has a lot of hard decisions to make in strategizing how they rebound from the onslaught of Monday Night Football.

Monday Night Football, by the way, brought in 12,479,000 viewers opposite Raw, winning the night.
Outside of maybe the NoC go-home show, past several weeks have been breaking records for lowest ever in the 3 hour era. Down by 530,000 viewers compared to the same week last year.

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As seen at Sunday’s Night of Champions event, a fan jumped the barricade and entered the ring and stood next to Roman Reigns moments before Chris Jericho came out as the mystery partner of Dean Ambrose and Reigns in their match against The Wyatt Family. WWE security quickly tackled him and took him out.

The following day, WWE issued a statement saying they will be prosecuting fans who get involved in WWE programming moving forward, while in the past they only got a lifetime ban from WWE events.

Bryan Alvarez mentioned on today’s installment of Wrestling Observer Live that the fan at Night of Champions is now serving ten days in jail for the incident.
Supposedly WWE has begun beefing up security starting with Smackdown this week. Fan report from the show had security yelling at people if they were standing too close to the railings or trying to move down the aisles.

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While the company has indeed pursued prosecution in the past when it came to fans crossing a line or physically hopping the rail in the past, after the last several weeks of incidents (most recently last night at the WWE Night of Champions PPV), the word is that WWE intends to pursue the most stringent prosecution possible if and when another incident occurs. There will be no apologies afterwards from fans at this point, as sometimes has happened, just an immediate arrest followed by WWE's legal team pushing for prosecution and jail time for all offenders.

So, while someone might think they are going to get a momentary laugh or thrill out of getting involved in a WWE event, the reality is that because so many fans have "poked the bear" so to speak of late, anyone that attempts this going forward is looking at not just a lifetime ban from WWE events as well as the venue where the incident takes place, but being charged with criminal offenses That means that person is going to have to deal with the financial hardship of hiring a lawyer to defend them as well as dealing with all the stress of going to court as well as the potential of going to jail, being fined, etc ...

As I noted a few weeks ago on Elite audio, if I am WWE, I am giving Ronnie Lang and Atlas Security a call. Lang's team dealt with far more dangerous situations in the old days of ECW and always masterfully squashed the situations without harm to any wrestlers. While obviously WWE is a different company and publicly traded, there is obviously something breaking down when it comes to security (and I have no idea if that's in-house or security provided by the venues WWE run) and Lang might be a good outside eye for them to bring on as a consultant to help them fix whatever they might be doing wrong and improve upon what they are doing right.

Speaking of security, Dolph Ziggler noted on his Twitter that WWE Security professional Muriel Howell left the company this weekend. From the wrestlers I've spoken to since it was announced, to a person, she was described as having done an amazing job in her role of protecting talents and will be missed.
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"I didn't really develop the whole theatrics, the setup for it, when I ThunderCat down on the ground [in developmental]. That's what we call it, actually, so you all know. I don't know why we call it ThunderCat, but that's what we call it".

When asked whether the name, Superman Punch, would be better suited for John Cena, Reigns stated that he did not name the move himself.

"I'm not one of those nerds that names his moves. It was called a Spear before I did it, so I'm going to continue to call it a Spear. It was called a Superman Punch before I did it, so I call it a Superman Punch."
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The news comes during a special “Nitro Week” on the WWE Network which features more than 2 hours of Bischoff-themed programming and a countdown of Monday Nitro’s top 10 moments.

Going off a recent WWE DVD Survey issued by the company to select fans in order to gauge interest in future Home Video projects, we know that this Eric Bischoff DVD and a “Greatest Rivalries: Eric Bischoff vs. Vince McMahon” DVD have both been under consideration.

It appears that the Bischoff documentary is the more likely to be produced given today’s update, however as of now the title is still “pending talent involvement”, presumably by the man himself.
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Remember when Rusev used to beat up on the likes of Kofi Kingston, Xavier Woods, and Big E while he was coming up through WWE? Well, the four teamed up for a match against Dolph Ziggler and the Dudley Boyz on Raw last night and no one made any mention of it on commentary.

But don't worry, in the age of social media we can get the word straight from the source.

First, Kingston brought up the elephant in the room:

All that time we spent beefing, who would've thought we'd make such a great team?! New Day + @RusevBul = Supreme Dream Team! #AllisForgiven
— Kofi Kingston (@TrueKofi) September 22, 2015

Then, Woods actually told us what happened:

.@RusevBUL actually had us over for dinner to apologize for the way he used to treat us. Now we are friends. #6ManTag pic.twitter.com/bJPzWbSHI0
— Xavier Woods (@XavierWoodsPhD) September 22, 2015

Rusev expanded on it:

And to make fun of the @LanaWWE hahahahahaahaahaha. Just 4 man whole chickens and yogurt. Laughing at a woman https://t.co/as9xfPwnsQ
— Rusev (@RusevBUL) September 22, 2015

Big E got in on it:

"I suggested she clap...but she can't! Hehehehehe. Her wrist is as useful as a floppy disk!...Pass the baklava!" https://t.co/XxWHHErsfO
— Epsilon (@WWEBigE) September 22, 2015
Found the whole thing to be a bit funny. Rusev still making fun of Lana, New Day still being goofy, and them settling past differences over a meal of chicken and yogurt.
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:34 AM   #19464
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Rusev is absolutely hilarious on Twitter. I heard of an instance where Lana was asking for ideas for shows to watch, so Rusev said "You should watch...BONES! hahahahahahhaha!"
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:34 AM   #19465
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I would like to see more of The New Day and Rusev together. Dolph Ziggler & Cesaro can join the Dudleys. There's a Survivor Series match for ya.
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:46 AM   #19466
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Old 09-23-2015, 09:31 AM   #19467
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Old 09-23-2015, 09:32 AM   #19468
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Old 09-23-2015, 09:37 AM   #19469
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Seems like there is a problem with some people on here about how a heel champion is to be booked as to not turn them face. It's a fine line to make them still be credible as a champion but still show cowardness to make them a heel. I think Rollins is fine right now, but I also think we're coming to a fork in the road.
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I would like to see more of The New Day and Rusev together. Dolph Ziggler & Cesaro can join the Dudleys. There's a Survivor Series match for ya.
I wonder if Dudleys get heel reactions in the Garden vs New Day.
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Typical response to someone who can't cobble together a counter point.

I feel like Donald Trump up here. Everyone hates on me because I make sound arguments that people feel like they have to disagree with but aren't sure why.
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I don't believe so. I don't know the story, but I think he may have even been run off here. It's a shame, because when he actually posted his thoughts, they were actually pretty good.
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I'm sorry it took so long to respond to this, I am extremely popular and have lots of posts to respond to.

Seems like there is a problem with some people on here about how a heel champion is to be booked as to not turn them face. It's a fine line to make them still be credible as a champion but still show cowardness to make them a heel. I think Rollins is fine right now, but I also think we're coming to a fork in the road.
You don't need to show cowardice as opposed to showing them having a dickish sense of arrogance and self-preservation. The problem with booking your heels like legitimate cowards is that it undercuts their entire existence as a pro-wrestler and no one believes in them.
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I wonder if Dudleys get heel reactions in the Garden vs New Day.
I don't think so. The Dudleys have established themselves as having a strong association with New York. I imagine The New Day will have their supporters, but I think the crowd will be genuinely rabid.

I imagine ND cutting an on the way to the ring promo sans trombone about how it got stolen by your typical New Yorker earlier today or something too.
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Old 09-23-2015, 02:00 PM   #19475
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I would love to see Spike Dudley come back, so we can see New Day vs. Dudleys in a six-man tables tag match.
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I don't think so. The Dudleys have established themselves as having a strong association with New York. I imagine The New Day will have their supporters, but I think the crowd will be genuinely rabid.

I imagine ND cutting an on the way to the ring promo sans trombone about how it got stolen by your typical New Yorker earlier today or something too.
Yeah i hate those promos that force the fans to cheer in the opposite way they want. I feel like a true NYC crowd would see that the Dudleys are past their prime.
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You don't need to show cowardice as opposed to showing them having a dickish sense of arrogance and self-preservation. The problem with booking your heels like legitimate cowards is that it undercuts their entire existence as a pro-wrestler and no one believes in them.
My answer to that is there are plenty of ways to skin a fish. Lots of diffrrent types of heels. Didn't Rollins beat Sting clean AFTER just finishing a match with Cena? Cena is the top babyface in the territory. Can't be any shame in losing to him. I'm assuming he beats Kane clean at HIAC. So he is getting his wins.
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Seth Rollins has injured Brock, Cena, and Sting all in about 6 months. RAW having its worst ratings basically ever with him as the champion. People need to start facing facts. The man is a liability.
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Seth Rollins has injured Brock, Cena, and Sting all in about 6 months. RAW having its worst ratings basically ever with him as the champion. People need to start facing facts. The man is a liability.
a) Cena leaned into the knee

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