NCAA Football 2006 Thread - Page 4

**BCWWF** · 08-14-2006, 04:00 AM

Texas is just lucky that they don't have to face Mizzou again this year.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-14-2006, 03:52 PM

You guys are downplaying the loss of Vince Young though, that is going to have an effect on the running game probably. I don't think defenses are gonna be too afraid of McCoy or Snead right out of the gate, so they are gonna have to prove to the D that they can get it done. That means the Texas RBs will be getting the Adrian Peterson treatment.

**BCWWF** · 08-14-2006, 04:42 PM

I can't remember, but it seems like Vince Young would have opperated out of the shotgun, right? If so, does Texas still do that with the new quarterback? If they do, and the quarterback can't run, the running back is fuckedddddddd.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-14-2006, 04:52 PM

You don't need to be super fast to run the spread offense (Check out Alex Smith) The 2 QBs they got right have decent mobility from what I hear, they aren't Mike Vick back there but at the sametime they aren't Drew Bledsoe either

A lot of Young's runs weren't designed run plays anyway, so I dunno. I think the fact that Texas's leading returing passer is "N/A" is a problem no matter what formation you line up in.

**BCWWF** · 08-14-2006, 05:02 PM

No, but what I am saying is that for a running back, you are a fish in a bucket if your team is running a lot of plays out of the shot gun. From the shotgun, the receiver gets the ball with no momentum, making some big losses inevitable, and if you use it on the goal line you are just retarded. If you have a fast quarterback like Vince Young who can get out of the pocket and run 30 yards up the side, you don't put all of the pressure right down the middle, so it helps the running back too.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-14-2006, 05:11 PM

Screen passes, play action, running back out of the backfield in the flats is a lot easier out of the shotgun. Which will help because the D will not be honoring the threat of pass at all. Plus it is not like its an NFL style Shotgun, the spread is different.

Another thing I don't even know if Texas will be using the same style of offense, I would think with less mobile QBs they'd modify their attack a bit but we'll see. Last year they didn't have a power running attack, you can tell by the huge average yards per carry that the tailbacks racked up, they use speed to get to the outside. Like somebody already noted Jamal Charles is Big 12 track champ...why would you try to run him between tackles? Either way if Texas is able to dictate their own offense and not let the defense do it for them they should be alright, if they have to start changing their style because the defense makes them, thats when they will be in trouble.

And I don't think they'll be running the shotgun while on the goalline, pretty sure every football team on the face of the earth has a "Goalline package" no matter what the style of offense is, Henry Melton will have no trouble in that role.

**The Outlaw** · 08-14-2006, 06:34 PM

Sneaddddd. He's going to be pretty good I think.

**BCWWF** · 08-15-2006, 03:13 AM

Lol, the reason I made the goal line comment is because Gary Pinkel absolutely refused to line up Brad Smith under center for Missouri. Even at the goalline, he would run the shot gun, and it was awful. After every game and media day we would question if he was willing to line him up under center and it was always the same answer.

Again, I can't remember, so I don't even know if Texas did opperate under a shot gun offense. If they do though, the running back is screwed on any handoff. Lining up under center, the running back has momentum when getting the handoff. In the shotgun, he grabs the ball as he starts moving, and there is little you can do to disguise it. Basically you have to get lucky or else run draw plays to have running back success there, IMO.

If you focus on screen passes and the other stuff, that works, but I am just saying that on a basic handoff or pitch, it is incredibly hard for a running back to get out when he is standing still when the ball is handed to him.

**owenbrown** · 08-15-2006, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme

lol Kentucky is not an average program. They're as bad if not worse than Vandy and they don't have any academic excuse either.

Don't remind me about the woes of Kentucky football as I am a fan.

As far as this season's champs are concerned... my vote goes to the Fighting Irish. They seem to be the odds-on favorites.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-15-2006, 03:52 PM

Well if you run a HB Dive out of the shotgun, yeah, its not gonna work. What is your point though? No teams do that. You do different run plays out of the shotgun then you do in the I formation. It is not like they are going to run a HB Toss or something either, since you do cannot do that out of every formation.

You can run out of the shotgun though, plenty of teams have proven that, its just a different style. Not saying Texas will be doing this because I'm not sure, but it is possible. Texas only used parts of the spread offense last season, so they weren't strictly a "spread team" like Texas Tech or Florida. So I'd assume they would be changing it up.

**BCWWF** · 08-15-2006, 06:20 PM

Well generally a shotgun offense is used to emphasize the pass or to open up the field for a mobile quarterback, rather than a strong running game.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-15-2006, 07:06 PM

You can easily have a strong running game coming out of the spread, just not a power game. (Texas Tech's running back Henderson had 148 carries for 872 yards, 17 TDs)

You gotta be mobile to run the spread, yeah, but you don't need to be Vince Young. I am pretty sure the two guys replacing Young aren't stiffs in the Drew Bledsoe mold.

**The Outlaw** · 08-16-2006, 04:19 PM

Introducing Jevan Snead.

Finished with a 23-2 record as a starter so he knows how to win. He had 7,955 total yards and 100 TDs in 25 games over his final two seasons. Averaged 318.2 yards per game and four TDs during that stretch. Finished with the second-most passing yards in the U.S. Army All-American Bowl after throwing for 147 yards and two TDs. Threw for 3,546 yards and 38 TDs that year. He completed 230 of 370 passes and also rushed for 766 yards and 23 TDs. He averaged 308 total yards per game and led Stephenville to a 4A state semifinals appearance and a 13-1 record. Completed 16-of-32 passes for 272 yards and three TDs while rushing for another one in Stephenville's 41-38 loss in the state semifinals to eventual state champion Highland Park. He surpassed the 2,000-yard mark in the eighth game of 2005. Tallied 3,025 yards and 29 TDs passing, while rushing for 618 yards and 10 TDs. He completed 181-of-304 (59.5%) and led Stephenville to a 10-1 record that year. In his first start as a sophomore, went 8-for-8 for 205 yards and two TDs in the first half against Crowley.

2006 Parade All-America team as a senior
second-team All-American by EA Sports
2 time All-State
earned an invitation to the �Elite 11 Quarterback Camp
2006 U.S. Army All-American Bowl
Associated Press second-team all-state
Dave Campbell�s Super Team second team
All-Big Country Super Team MVP
Associated Press and Texas Sports Writers Association honorable mention all-state as a junior

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-17-2006, 01:17 AM

Ryan Perriloux:

Perrilloux had an incredible senior season, passing for 3,546 yards (225/342) and 30 touchdown passes and running for 1,460 yards (226 carries) and 37 touchdowns. He accounted for 69 total touchdowns and finished his career second in total yards behind Brock Berlin with 12,705 yards. As a junior, Perrilloux passed for 2,600 yards, 29 TDs and only five interceptions and ran for 1,274 yards and 22 touchdowns.

Not saying Snead isn't gonna be good but I wouldn't feel too good having a true freshman starting at QB.

**The Outlaw** · 08-18-2006, 01:59 AM

Oh no doubt. He's no Vince Young but he won't have to be. Put up decent numbers, run the offense, and get the ball to the playmakers is all he has to do.

Perrilloux won't see too much playing time IMO. Kid could be starting almost anywhere else but decided to ride the pine till his senior year. Again, all my opinion...

**The Outlaw** · 08-18-2006, 02:01 AM

Plus, he's a punk and a prick.

"LSU is the perfect school for me. I can come in and play next year. JaMarcus struggled last year, and Matt Flynn is definitely not a better quarterback than me. It's just a perfect opportunity."

Yeah, good prediction Ryan.

**The Outlaw** · 08-18-2006, 02:01 AM

That after saying he was still committed to the Horns. LOL, sad that I still remember this.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-18-2006, 02:05 AM

I heard all 3 of them are still battling at LSU, I dunno how though seeing how Russell started last season.

And also if Snead is QB for Texas this season I can't see them doing as well as most are predicting them to be doing. He'll be real good in the future but I can't see him coming right out of the gate and playing good enough to win.

**The Outlaw** · 08-18-2006, 02:10 AM

Yeah he's battling that other guy for the starting job I think? Not sure.

Russell is sick. He'll start. They have the best depth at QB this year though, no doubt.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-18-2006, 02:17 AM

McCoy or some shit, I'd think he'd start since he's a redshirt freshman but Snead came in a semester early (pretty sure he did anyway) so he might beat him out.

All I know is Edgerin James' cousin is playing at the U this year and rockin #5, what a sicko

**The Outlaw** · 08-22-2006, 04:53 PM

Rudy Carpenter is named the starter at ASU at QB after Sam Keller was named the starter Friday. Keller now contemplating transferring. Being said Nebraska is prolly where.

Wow...

**RoXer** · 08-22-2006, 04:54 PM

Hahahaha

**The Outlaw** · 08-22-2006, 05:22 PM

Nice consistency there Dirk.

**RoXer** · 08-22-2006, 09:09 PM

Tuitama > Rudy

BEAR DOWN

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-22-2006, 10:38 PM

Dude can't really go wrong with either QB I guess

**mrslackalack** · 08-22-2006, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme

In fact, looking back at their history, they've won more than 7 games in a season a whole 10 times. UK has had a team since 1881. They are pathetic in every sense of the word.

We couldnt even go big time with Couch.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-22-2006, 11:31 PM

I wonder if Jay Cutler is going to end up like Tim Couch

**mrslackalack** · 08-23-2006, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Outlaw

Rudy Carpenter is named the starter at ASU at QB after Sam Keller was named the starter Friday. Keller now contemplating transferring. Being said Nebraska is prolly where.

Wow...

I heard something to the fact that like 25 teamates were ticked that the coach changed his mind after naming Keller the starting QB.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-25-2006, 03:23 AM

What a difference 5 days makes

**The Outlaw** · 08-26-2006, 02:20 PM

Yup, crazy stuff...

**BCWWF** · 08-27-2006, 04:52 AM

Top 10 places to see a game...

10. Texas
9. Nebraska
8. Michigan
7. Alabama
6. Ohio State
5. Wisconsin
4. Notre Dame
3. Texas A&M
2. Florida
1. Penn State

Based on TV and shit, whats yours?

**mrslackalack** · 08-28-2006, 01:48 PM

Id like to see a CFB game at LSU, Florida, and Ohio St.

**BCWWF** · 08-28-2006, 03:10 PM

Oh yeah, LSU could have made my list somewhere. That game against Tennessee last year was incredible.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-29-2006, 12:19 AM

After seeing the sea of white I'd say

1. Penn State
2. Michigan
3. Florida
4. Ohio State
5. Texas
6. Notre Dame

I'd definetly want to go a night game instead of a game day too, although either way it'd be pretty sick. I am definetly going to do it and go to one of these places once I graduate from college. I got some connections (a "Stima" is actaully a season ticket holder) at Tennesse but I am not a Vols fan at all.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 08-29-2006, 12:50 AM

Boston College @ Central Michigan 6 PM Easter on THE DUECE (ESPN 2)

I SLEPT IN THAT KIDS BASEMENT IN 2ND GRADE!!!!!!! Good chance my shitfaced ass will be yelling that while I am watching haha

**mrslackalack** · 08-30-2006, 10:35 AM

Anyone interested in doing a TPWW college fb pickem this year?

**RoXer** · 08-30-2006, 11:44 AM

YES! I forgot to start that up. I'll do it later today if anyone wants to.

**The Outlaw** · 08-30-2006, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34

Boston College @ Central Michigan 6 PM Easter on THE DUECE (ESPN 2)

I SLEPT IN THAT KIDS BASEMENT IN 2ND GRADE!!!!!!! Good chance my shitfaced ass will be yelling that while I am watching haha

What kid? lol

I watched a game @ Knoxville a few years back. It was ridiculous, I was almost in the very top. Didn't enjoy it too much although the place was huge.

Tuscaloosa is a nice place, especially with the stadium upgrade. Going this weekend, gonna be siiick. Want to goto The Swamp (UF), Death Valley (LSU), Athens (UGA), and to Texas before long.

**The Outlaw** · 08-30-2006, 08:18 PM

Here's some pictures, the plaza wasn't finished in these but you can see the upgrades good enough. I'll post some more updated ones after Saturday maybe. BEAUTIFUL

**BCWWF** · 08-31-2006, 01:39 AM

Is that Bama? I really like that stadium, I like the ones that are big and tall rather than big and flat (ie Rose Bowl)

08-16-2006, 04:19 PM	#133
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Introducing Jevan Snead. Finished with a 23-2 record as a starter so he knows how to win. He had 7,955 total yards and 100 TDs in 25 games over his final two seasons. Averaged 318.2 yards per game and four TDs during that stretch. Finished with the second-most passing yards in the U.S. Army All-American Bowl after throwing for 147 yards and two TDs. Threw for 3,546 yards and 38 TDs that year. He completed 230 of 370 passes and also rushed for 766 yards and 23 TDs. He averaged 308 total yards per game and led Stephenville to a 4A state semifinals appearance and a 13-1 record. Completed 16-of-32 passes for 272 yards and three TDs while rushing for another one in Stephenville's 41-38 loss in the state semifinals to eventual state champion Highland Park. He surpassed the 2,000-yard mark in the eighth game of 2005. Tallied 3,025 yards and 29 TDs passing, while rushing for 618 yards and 10 TDs. He completed 181-of-304 (59.5%) and led Stephenville to a 10-1 record that year. In his first start as a sophomore, went 8-for-8 for 205 yards and two TDs in the first half against Crowley. 2006 Parade All-America team as a senior second-team All-American by EA Sports 2 time All-State earned an invitation to the �Elite 11 Quarterback Camp 2006 U.S. Army All-American Bowl Associated Press second-team all-state Dave Campbell�s Super Team second team All-Big Country Super Team MVP Associated Press and Texas Sports Writers Association honorable mention all-state as a junior

08-14-2006, 04:00 AM	#121
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Texas is just lucky that they don't have to face Mizzou again this year.

08-14-2006, 03:52 PM	#122
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	You guys are downplaying the loss of Vince Young though, that is going to have an effect on the running game probably. I don't think defenses are gonna be too afraid of McCoy or Snead right out of the gate, so they are gonna have to prove to the D that they can get it done. That means the Texas RBs will be getting the Adrian Peterson treatment.

08-14-2006, 04:42 PM	#123
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I can't remember, but it seems like Vince Young would have opperated out of the shotgun, right? If so, does Texas still do that with the new quarterback? If they do, and the quarterback can't run, the running back is fuckedddddddd.

08-14-2006, 04:52 PM	#124
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	You don't need to be super fast to run the spread offense (Check out Alex Smith) The 2 QBs they got right have decent mobility from what I hear, they aren't Mike Vick back there but at the sametime they aren't Drew Bledsoe either A lot of Young's runs weren't designed run plays anyway, so I dunno. I think the fact that Texas's leading returing passer is "N/A" is a problem no matter what formation you line up in.

08-14-2006, 05:02 PM	#125
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	No, but what I am saying is that for a running back, you are a fish in a bucket if your team is running a lot of plays out of the shot gun. From the shotgun, the receiver gets the ball with no momentum, making some big losses inevitable, and if you use it on the goal line you are just retarded. If you have a fast quarterback like Vince Young who can get out of the pocket and run 30 yards up the side, you don't put all of the pressure right down the middle, so it helps the running back too.

08-14-2006, 05:11 PM	#126
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Screen passes, play action, running back out of the backfield in the flats is a lot easier out of the shotgun. Which will help because the D will not be honoring the threat of pass at all. Plus it is not like its an NFL style Shotgun, the spread is different. Another thing I don't even know if Texas will be using the same style of offense, I would think with less mobile QBs they'd modify their attack a bit but we'll see. Last year they didn't have a power running attack, you can tell by the huge average yards per carry that the tailbacks racked up, they use speed to get to the outside. Like somebody already noted Jamal Charles is Big 12 track champ...why would you try to run him between tackles? Either way if Texas is able to dictate their own offense and not let the defense do it for them they should be alright, if they have to start changing their style because the defense makes them, thats when they will be in trouble. And I don't think they'll be running the shotgun while on the goalline, pretty sure every football team on the face of the earth has a "Goalline package" no matter what the style of offense is, Henry Melton will have no trouble in that role.

08-14-2006, 06:34 PM	#127
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Sneaddddd. He's going to be pretty good I think.

08-15-2006, 03:13 AM	#128
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Lol, the reason I made the goal line comment is because Gary Pinkel absolutely refused to line up Brad Smith under center for Missouri. Even at the goalline, he would run the shot gun, and it was awful. After every game and media day we would question if he was willing to line him up under center and it was always the same answer. Again, I can't remember, so I don't even know if Texas did opperate under a shot gun offense. If they do though, the running back is screwed on any handoff. Lining up under center, the running back has momentum when getting the handoff. In the shotgun, he grabs the ball as he starts moving, and there is little you can do to disguise it. Basically you have to get lucky or else run draw plays to have running back success there, IMO. If you focus on screen passes and the other stuff, that works, but I am just saying that on a basic handoff or pitch, it is incredibly hard for a running back to get out when he is standing still when the ball is handed to him.

08-15-2006, 03:52 PM	#130
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Well if you run a HB Dive out of the shotgun, yeah, its not gonna work. What is your point though? No teams do that. You do different run plays out of the shotgun then you do in the I formation. It is not like they are going to run a HB Toss or something either, since you do cannot do that out of every formation. You can run out of the shotgun though, plenty of teams have proven that, its just a different style. Not saying Texas will be doing this because I'm not sure, but it is possible. Texas only used parts of the spread offense last season, so they weren't strictly a "spread team" like Texas Tech or Florida. So I'd assume they would be changing it up.

08-15-2006, 06:20 PM	#131
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Well generally a shotgun offense is used to emphasize the pass or to open up the field for a mobile quarterback, rather than a strong running game.

08-15-2006, 07:06 PM	#132
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	You can easily have a strong running game coming out of the spread, just not a power game. (Texas Tech's running back Henderson had 148 carries for 872 yards, 17 TDs) You gotta be mobile to run the spread, yeah, but you don't need to be Vince Young. I am pretty sure the two guys replacing Young aren't stiffs in the Drew Bledsoe mold.

08-17-2006, 01:17 AM	#134
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Ryan Perriloux: Perrilloux had an incredible senior season, passing for 3,546 yards (225/342) and 30 touchdown passes and running for 1,460 yards (226 carries) and 37 touchdowns. He accounted for 69 total touchdowns and finished his career second in total yards behind Brock Berlin with 12,705 yards. As a junior, Perrilloux passed for 2,600 yards, 29 TDs and only five interceptions and ran for 1,274 yards and 22 touchdowns. Not saying Snead isn't gonna be good but I wouldn't feel too good having a true freshman starting at QB.

08-18-2006, 01:59 AM	#135
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Oh no doubt. He's no Vince Young but he won't have to be. Put up decent numbers, run the offense, and get the ball to the playmakers is all he has to do. Perrilloux won't see too much playing time IMO. Kid could be starting almost anywhere else but decided to ride the pine till his senior year. Again, all my opinion...

08-18-2006, 02:01 AM	#136
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Plus, he's a punk and a prick. "LSU is the perfect school for me. I can come in and play next year. JaMarcus struggled last year, and Matt Flynn is definitely not a better quarterback than me. It's just a perfect opportunity." Yeah, good prediction Ryan.

08-18-2006, 02:01 AM	#137
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	That after saying he was still committed to the Horns. LOL, sad that I still remember this.

08-18-2006, 02:05 AM	#138
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I heard all 3 of them are still battling at LSU, I dunno how though seeing how Russell started last season. And also if Snead is QB for Texas this season I can't see them doing as well as most are predicting them to be doing. He'll be real good in the future but I can't see him coming right out of the gate and playing good enough to win.

08-18-2006, 02:10 AM	#139
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Yeah he's battling that other guy for the starting job I think? Not sure. Russell is sick. He'll start. They have the best depth at QB this year though, no doubt.

08-18-2006, 02:17 AM	#140
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	McCoy or some shit, I'd think he'd start since he's a redshirt freshman but Snead came in a semester early (pretty sure he did anyway) so he might beat him out. All I know is Edgerin James' cousin is playing at the U this year and rockin #5, what a sicko

08-22-2006, 04:53 PM	#141
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Rudy Carpenter is named the starter at ASU at QB after Sam Keller was named the starter Friday. Keller now contemplating transferring. Being said Nebraska is prolly where. Wow...

08-22-2006, 04:54 PM	#142
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Hahahaha

08-22-2006, 05:22 PM	#143
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Nice consistency there Dirk.

08-22-2006, 09:09 PM	#144
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Tuitama > Rudy BEAR DOWN

08-22-2006, 10:38 PM	#145
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Dude can't really go wrong with either QB I guess

08-22-2006, 11:31 PM	#147
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I wonder if Jay Cutler is going to end up like Tim Couch

08-25-2006, 03:23 AM	#149
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	What a difference 5 days makes

08-26-2006, 02:20 PM	#150
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Yup, crazy stuff...

08-27-2006, 04:52 AM	#151
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Top 10 places to see a game... 10. Texas 9. Nebraska 8. Michigan 7. Alabama 6. Ohio State 5. Wisconsin 4. Notre Dame 3. Texas A&M 2. Florida 1. Penn State Based on TV and shit, whats yours?

08-28-2006, 01:48 PM	#152
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	Id like to see a CFB game at LSU, Florida, and Ohio St.

08-28-2006, 03:10 PM	#153
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Oh yeah, LSU could have made my list somewhere. That game against Tennessee last year was incredible.

08-29-2006, 12:19 AM	#154
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	After seeing the sea of white I'd say 1. Penn State 2. Michigan 3. Florida 4. Ohio State 5. Texas 6. Notre Dame I'd definetly want to go a night game instead of a game day too, although either way it'd be pretty sick. I am definetly going to do it and go to one of these places once I graduate from college. I got some connections (a "Stima" is actaully a season ticket holder) at Tennesse but I am not a Vols fan at all.