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Old 02-21-2013, 02:06 AM   #121
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dude it might be time to look in the mirror, your taste in what is good and bad really is shitty
Nobosy cares about workrate except fat basement dwelling virgins. Ziggler can't get over on his own. Swagger's gimmick is tremendous, way better than anything Ziggler has done.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:09 AM   #122
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No zeb coulters gimmick is amazing. Jack swagger can't hold Dolph's jock strap on his own.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:11 AM   #123
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Swagger got great heat during his title run.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:12 AM   #124
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so you are saying... since workrate doesnt matter (which i wholeheartedly agree with) that swagger is skilled based on his promos?? dude is horrendous on the mic.

the attraction of this angle is with dutch mantel, not swagger. Swagger does not blow anyone away in the ring or on the stick to my knowledge.

Mantel, Heyman and vickie are hopefully leading a charge of quality mouthpieces to be featured more in the WWE which have been missing for quite some time.

this is where you remove logic and just say you are master of the internet wrestling universe and disagree. go
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:16 AM   #125
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Where do people get just because he has a lisp that he's bad on the mic? Check out his promos when he was feuding with the Big Show. They were great.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:17 AM   #126
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:20 AM   #127
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Id post them but I'm on my phone.

Also, I'm not the King of the Internet. I'm the pulse of the WWE Universe.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:21 AM   #128
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Swagger got great heat during his title run.
Xpac heat

No one gave a shit about swagger because he won the title out of no where, and has a bland personality.

Not saying Dolph is a groundbreaking heel or anything. He's the generic arrogant heel just like swagger was, but he does it way better IMO.

Doesn't help that every time swagger gets a main event push, it's preceded by him jobbing out in the midcard.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:27 AM   #129
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Ugh stop with that stupid XPac heat shit. It's the most retarded thing ever to come out of the internet.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:33 AM   #130
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lol it's so not.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:33 AM   #131
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Well, that and workrate
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:34 AM   #132
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:34 AM   #133
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i tubed 3 pieces of swagger's work. the promo package of his fued with show was the best of the three but still seems show was doing the heavy lifting of the build while swagger likely did the better work in rong of the two

one prommo after he became ECW champion that was not at all impressive, likely he was still green

and the promo after cashing in mitb against jericho, was tough to watch for the first 4 mins as he gave his promo, jericho arrived and within seconds owned the mic promo wise.

Swagger is by no means the worst thing ever,but far from a total package. aside from the look you go gaga over gertie not sure how you call him fantastic. but you are entitled to your opinion.

tend to agree more with fig , that his title run was ass like most runs are when they are from cashing in MITB
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:37 AM   #134
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He cut this promo talked about all of his accomplishment, not the one with all of his trophies and shit and the crowd was very hot during it. My stupid ip address is banned here or id post it.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:39 AM   #135
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Swagger has been more entertaining that Ziggler lately though...
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:42 AM   #136
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It's pretty much thanks to booking obviously. It's true though. Ziggler has been insignificant lately. The man has been expendable on Raw, hasn't been involved in anything and got tossed into a throwaway match at the PPV. I almost wish he didn't have the MITB case because it seems like it's just given the writers a reason to be lazy with him. "He's got that case. We don't need to keep him relevant or anything."
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:46 AM   #137
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I think that's because swaggers gimmick is fresh, where as Dolph has been doing the same thing for quite a while. As good as he is, he could stand to freshen up his character.

And again, although swagger is more interesting right now, I think that has a lot more to do with zeb and less with swagger himself.

Put zeb with someone else, and I won't even miss swagger.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:49 AM   #138
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Swagger fills the role well though. Let's not completely discredit him.

I don't think Dolph's character needs freshening up either. He's good at it and he never really peaked with it. He just needs to be involved in shit. It's insane how little attention they've been paying to keeping him relevant.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:59 AM   #139
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I'm pro the WWKD idea of bringing an NXT boy in to take over with Zeb. Hero? Awesome, yes. But someone who fits better...
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Are we suggesting they replace Swagger with Hero/Harper for the gimmick or for the WHC match at Mania?
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This thread has been top too long. I've been singing Swaggers old theme at work all day now.
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Zeb needs to recruit Ryback, and change his name to Dryback.
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I'm pro the WWKD idea of bringing an NXT boy in to take over with Zeb. Hero? Awesome, yes. But someone who fits better...
I agree Harper would fit better, BUT I don't want to break up the Wyatt Family.


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Are we suggesting they replace Swagger with Hero/Harper for the gimmick or for the WHC match at Mania?
Just the gimmick.
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lol this thread

Hes been on TV a fortnight and was gonna lose in the opener at Mania, big fucking deal. Like they can't find anyone out the 50 guys on the roster to do that
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It's a work!/He should feud with CM Punk now/Something similarly stupid and boilerplate.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:18 AM   #149
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It's official. He's been fired.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:19 AM   #150
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It's official. He's been rehired.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:59 AM   #151
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Could all this be a work?. I mean Del Rio could have planted
the weed in his car. etc forcing Swagger out of his mania match?.

I wouldn't count Swagger out just yet.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:10 AM   #152
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WWE should hire Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner to replace Swagger. Holla, if you hear me!
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:18 AM   #153
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Could all this be a work?. I mean Del Rio could have planted
the weed in his car. etc forcing Swagger out of his mania match?.

I wouldn't count Swagger out just yet.
Did he give him weed brownies too?
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:49 AM   #154
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wonder if swagger will be at bound for glory wrestling rvd and jeff hardy
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:14 AM   #155
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Way for Swagger to screw up. Hopefully this will spare us from seeing a match that wouldn't even main event a June PPV from being on the biggest show of the year.

Swagger's gimmick was interesting, but nothing that I'm going to miss if they throw it out. Swagger is a good wrestler but so was Rob Van Dam (who was better and way more over) and they stopped RVD's push dead when he got arrested. I think its almost certain that Swagger is out of Wrestlemania and off TV probably for a few months.

Do I think its right? I'm on the fence. On one hand I think that what happens outside the arena should not effect what happens in the ring, and on the other hand the WWE has every right to protect the type of image they want to have.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:44 AM   #156
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I feel absolutely no pity or sympathy for anyone who drives drunk. Countless people have been killed by drunk drivers: Mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, grandfathers, grandmothers. A dear friend of mine who is without question the best person I have ever known, and who had a wife and baby son, was killed by a drunk driver. So yeah, screw Swagger.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:25 PM   #158
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I feel absolutely no pity or sympathy for anyone who drives drunk. Countless people have been killed by drunk drivers: Mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, grandfathers, grandmothers. A dear friend of mine who is without question the best person I have ever known, and who had a wife and baby son, was killed by a drunk driver. So yeah, screw Swagger.
I completely and 100% agree with this.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:35 PM   #159
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I wonder if Antonio Cesaro could be bought as a legit enough threat to of the River.
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:37 PM   #160
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Whatever actions are processed to him in a legal stand points will not be argued, but I still want him on my television if he is not in jail. Let him pay his price to society with the law and let it be done. That is how society is suppose to work in America. If he gets fired it is understandable too. Bad image and all that jazz. Just won't have a problem with him going on to Mania and going on with his career.
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