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Old 03-13-2011, 01:05 AM   #1
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Or Mike Cameron, for that matter.



It's really only odd if you completely overlook his 5 years on Sportscenter and his 4 years at Fox Sports Net.
But, why VLADIMIR GUERRERO?

I don't mean him in a sports atmosphere, I remember him sporting the 'stache and doing Sportscenter with Dan Patrick...

...It's just weird to see him near Vladi...that's it.
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Because he's the fucking man, that's why.
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Well, he's got plenty of spare time on his hands these days...he could very well just be banging around from camp to camp or whatever, I suppose.

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The main goal for the Red Sox is to still get another veteran catcher due to the void Martinez left and their previous catcher they groomed to be their future falling out of favor with the team (left for Yankees for a year and returned but lost his status).
I think you're giving the organization a bit of extra credit here. They've done a pretty piss-poor job of grooming anything resembling a legitimate successor to Varitek, as internally, they'd genuinely thought that Joe Mauer was going to get on the first plane possible out of Minneapolis and knock on the gate at Fenway. Stupid assumption to begin with that looks even dumber when you get a close look at the "top catching prospects" over the past few years. As good of a job as they've done drafting and developing at other positions, they pretty much punted on catchers for several years there.
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I think you're giving the organization a bit of extra credit here. They've done a pretty piss-poor job of grooming anything resembling a legitimate successor to Varitek, as internally, they'd genuinely thought that Joe Mauer was going to get on the first plane possible out of Minneapolis and knock on the gate at Fenway. Stupid assumption to begin with that looks even dumber when you get a close look at the "top catching prospects" over the past few years. As good of a job as they've done drafting and developing at other positions, they pretty much punted on catchers for several years there.
I do agree with this, somewhat. But don't too ahead of yourself. The Yankees only recently acquired Montero, and he's not really a catching prospect. Not to mention, as long as a catcher can call a good game, they're doing their job. Catcher is the last position people are going to look for offense from, honestly. Not a lot of good hitting catchers are avaiable.


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I still don't understand why the Red Sox traded for Victor Martinez, and then let him go, basically...
They needed him for a playoff push and stablize the position for the duration of his contract. I'm sure they would have loved to have kept him. But in losing him and Beltre, they upgraded with Crawford and Gonzalez. I think they felt they had to make a choice as to who they felt was more important to the team, and, personally, I'd Gonzo and Crawford over Beltre and Martinez any day of the week.
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I do agree with this, somewhat. But don't too ahead of yourself. The Yankees only recently acquired Montero, and he's not really a catching prospect. Not to mention, as long as a catcher can call a good game, they're doing their job. Catcher is the last position people are going to look for offense from, honestly. Not a lot of good hitting catchers are avaiable.




They needed him for a playoff push and stablize the position for the duration of his contract. I'm sure they would have loved to have kept him. But in losing him and Beltre, they upgraded with Crawford and Gonzalez. I think they felt they had to make a choice as to who they felt was more important to the team, and, personally, I'd Gonzo and Crawford over Beltre and Martinez any day of the week.
I agree! Crawford and A-gon are way better then them. One of the few advantages of having V-Mart on your team is that he could be back up catcher and Adrian really can't . As far as I know Gonzales has never been a catcher. So do the Red Sox trade for another catcher or just go with what they have? I really don't know how good this Exposito guy is , but I believe Varitek is just about done. He may have 2 years left in him but I say in 2012 or 2013 He is retired. So what I would do is trade for a back up or starting catcher mid season. Cause down the road I think you'll need him.
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Catcher is the last position people are going to look for offense from, honestly.
Pretty sure shortstop is still winning that battle.

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Gonzo, Crawford and 4 draft picks.
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Pretty sure shortstop is still winning that battle.
I'm too lazy to go look it up, but I'd venture to say there are more above average, well rounded shortstops who play at least good defense and are good hitters than there are catchers who profile similarly.

Catcher's been a black hole as a position for ages.
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I still don't understand why the Red Sox traded for Victor Martinez, and then let him go, basically...
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The Braves coach who got hit with a line drive by Brian McCann is getting his eye removed.

McCann's gonna have a terrible year.
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The Braves coach who got hit with a line drive by Brian McCann is getting his eye removed.

McCann's gonna have a terrible year.
That's something that could potentially hurt his career long-term, in terms of his mental state. Hopefully he'll be alright.
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Yeah, hurt the player...
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Luis Castillo has been released Yessssssssss!

Oliver Perez can't be too far behind. They have him slated to pitch in back-to-back games this weekend so if he bombs he'll surely be gone within a week.
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Haha Big Vito. I read that this morning and you were the first person I thought off. Wonder if he will find a home. Also, when the Mets Rule 5'd that Emaus kid, the writing was on the wall.
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Some team will def take a flyer on him since they'd only have to pay league minimum.

Looking back, despite the fact that he got the most starts at the position during spring, I'm not entirely sure that Castillo ever had a real chance. Alderson has said over and over that he views 2B as an offensive position - hence why he really likes Emaus. Emaus is having the shittiest spring by far out of the four guys left but since Toronto will def take him back, he'll get the first chance in what will prolly be a platoon situation with Murphy.

If Reese Havens can actually stay healthy, I wouldn't be shocked to see him get hotshotted to the bigs by August if Emaus/Murphy or a Justin Turner/Luis Hernandez call-up underperform.
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My Jays will definitely take Emaus back. I was surprised that they left him unprotected when they keep useless fucks like Mike McCoy on the 40 man roster.
 
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You're probably in luck. It's really rare for Rule 5 guys to stick around the whole year. Usually if they underperform they only stick around if they're a team like the Pirates where it doesn't matter. I'd guess they decide whether or not to keep Emaus by Memorial Day.
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You're probably in luck. It's really rare for Rule 5 guys to stick around the whole year. Usually if they underperform they only stick around if they're a team like the Pirates where it doesn't matter. I'd guess they decide whether or not to keep Emaus by Memorial Day.
No offense, Vito, but I think this is a lost year for the Mets. Alderson just got in, so it's going to take some time to get the team back on the right track. Not to say that they can't, at the least, stay competitive and play .500 ball, but I don't see them competing with the Phillies, Braves, or Marlins for that matter.

With that said, I think they're going to give Emaus every chance to stick. His career OBP in the minors is 90 points (or close to it) higher than his career batting average at the same level. He also has averaged 25 doubles per year.

Outside of unspectacular power numbers, Emaus is the type of top of the order hitter Alderson looks for. Gets on base, can punch doubles, and could be a nice fill in at the 2 hole in the order. I think he will stick.
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Fuck I can't wait to see this Jays team in a couple years. Soooo much young talent. I never understood why AA got heat for dealing Marcum who's shoulder is acting up for Brett Lawrie considering they have a ton of young pitching. Lawrie has been amazing in spring training. I don't think he's going to make the team this year since Farrell is dead set on moving Bautista back to third which make no sense because it's going to make the Jays outfield horrible with Snider and Rivera on the corners and Rajah Davis who has no arm at all.
 
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Man, it's awesome to spend a Saturday afternoon watching some spring training baseball...

...the skies look so clear...the grass so green...the home uniforms are SO white...

...it's awesome.
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That was pretty surreal. Oliver Perez comes in with 2 men on on and gives up a long home run. Then another. Then he gets one out before walking a lefty. In a half-full spring training game, the ovation Terry Collins got when he came in to pull the hook was enormous. The boos as Perez jogged off the field were even louder.

As Perez left, the announcer questioned "was that his last pitch as a New York Met?"

My guess would be yes.
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I think the Mets are gonna do whatever they can to stay competitive for as long as possible this year, because as soon as they totally fall out of it Citi Field is gonna be a ghost town.

But yeah, right around .500 is what I'm expecting. Working on my predictions right now and so far I have them finishing Phillies (impossible not to pick them unless you're trying to look like Nostradamus), Braves, Mets, Marlins (just really don't see the big deal with them), and Nats (who might finally get out of the cellar with a full season of Strasburg next year).
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The Mets won't go above .500 this season. It's incredible how things went so bad so fast. Just 5 years ago, they were World Series contenders, and now, not only are not a playoff team, the whole organization seems to be a big mess.

At least they have Sandy Alderson, so they can be sure that the baseball side of things will be in good hands.
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Rick Peterson was interviewed by Francesa the other week and I found it incredibly interesting to hear his take on the 2007 collapse that sent the Mets into a tailspin they haven't recovered from. Basically he shat on Omar cause the Mets had no depth and had luminaries like Brian Lawrence making important starts down the stretch. Phil Humber had to make his big league debut in mid-collapse. Jorge Sosa, Scott Schoeneweis, and Aaron Heilman were sucking but needed to go out there every night since there was no other choice. It was ridiculous.

And it's a problem that wasn't quite so evident in 2006. Many of the replacement starting pitchers who had been called up that year sucked but were bailed out by the ricockulous offense and bullpen the Mets had. But once injuries set in in '07 and beyond, the lack of depth was exposed. Probably Omar's biggest downfall as GM.

Fortunately, depth seems like Alderson's strong point and unlike in years past I'm actually comfortable with the amount of depth in AAA once the need to call guys up arises. Think the Mets can at least stay in contention until late August/early September.
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Big deal with the Marlins is Hanley Ramirez is still growing as a player and is going to be entering his prime, so his numbers are going to be what carries the team. You also have Josh Johnson, a legit CY candidate, who's also still growing. Their pitching staff looks solid, Mike Stanton could very breakout as this year's big time power hitter, and they have Logan Morrison and Chris Coghlan hitting ahead of Ramirez and Stanton. The top and middle of their lineup is young and has tons of upside.

I think Alderson will right the ship over the next few years. He did the same for the Padres during his time here. Fans hated him, as he wasn't the best PR guy, and he was routinely baited on the radio and would get riled up by the radio hosts after they would ask sarcastic questions and what not, but the guy drafted pretty much every farm product that was on the team last and contributed to 90 wins was an Alderson draft; Latos, Headley, Blanks (even though he got hurt early), Hundley, Frieri.

I have faith Alderson will help get the Mets going. I think the only guy who figures into their future right now is David Wright. I think Alderson is going to let Reyes and Beltran go when the time comes, and collect the draft picks that the Mets will be compensated.

Onto other topics, Opening Day in San Diego is next week, and, despite my seats' view being equivalent to that of a Goodyear blimp view, I'm super excited to attend an Opening Day for the first time since that heralded 1998 season.
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With the Mets' luck, Castillo will play great with the Phillies.
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That is if he gets a call up. If I am not mistaken it was just a minor league deal.
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That is if he gets a call up. If I am not mistaken it was just a minor league deal.
Yeah, it is, but with Chase Utley still being injured, and the second base situation still not 100% defined, he's got a shot.
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Yeah, it is, but with Chase Utley still being injured, and the second base situation still not 100% defined, he's got a shot.
Oh, right I keep forgetting that Utley is still injured. I have got a question. Who do you think will get the fifth spot? Because that was Werth's spot and I think I may have read they still haven't found the guy who could bat fifth in place of Werth.

That does seem like a hard thing to do. Jayson Werth had quite a bit of power I could only imagine that with his ability to hit as well as well as he could can't be easily replaced.
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I can't see Castillo lasting long if he makes the team. As soon as Utley is healthy they'll probably cut Castillo loose because he's a useless bench player. If he had any range or could play more than one position maybe but as he is now he's a terrible bench option.
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Yea, Castillo is there soley to fill in for Utley while he's hurt. I can see him being kept for the duration of the season also, since no one knows how healthy utley is going to be and having Castillo on the bench as an option would be a wise move.

Perez will probably get picked up by some team needing relief/starting pitching help. The Diamondbacks seem like a likey fit, seeing as Perez came up under the Kevin Towers era, and KT is quick to jump on bargain bin arms who are looking to bounce back.

The Pirates also seem like they'd bite.
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Yea, Castillo is there soley to fill in for Utley while he's hurt. I can see him being kept for the duration of the season also, since no one knows how healthy utley is going to be and having Castillo on the bench as an option would be a wise move.

Perez will probably get picked up by some team needing relief/starting pitching help. The Diamondbacks seem like a likey fit, seeing as Perez came up under the Kevin Towers era, and KT is quick to jump on bargain bin arms who are looking to bounce back.

The Pirates also seem like they'd bite.
Don't rule out the Jays. Toronto always seems to have some shitty left handed innings eater on their roster ala Brian Tallet or Dana Eveland. Especially since Litsch sucks and I expect Drabek to be on a pitch limit. Zach Stewart and Henderson Alvarez aren't ready yet.
 
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Looks like Drabek and Litsch (who I HATE) have locked down to last two spots in the Jays rotation. Was really hoping Scrabble would have grabbed the 4th spot from Litsch but he blew in the pre-season. Ah well. Litsch will suck ass in no time.
 
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Yea, but Perez is not even good or consistent enough to be a shitty innings eater. If you can get 5 or 6 out of him, it's a miracle. I don't think the AA would bite on Perez.
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Brian Tallet was 2-6 with a 6.40 era in 34 games pitching 77.1 innings last year lol. Greatest stat: 20 home runs given up in those 77.1 innings. Cito kept throwing hm out there. Became a running joke because Cito stated he was an "innings eater.
 
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Cito Gaston's proven time and time again he's an idiot. Last year, instead of giving Arencibia time when he got called up to get his development going, he chose to start John Buck, a departing catcher who had zero future with the org, just so Buck had a chance to hit a menaingless number in homeruns (20).

Tallet might be better suited as a lefty specialist, though I don't know what his splits are so I'm just speculating.
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He kept playing Buck to keep him as a Class B free agent so the Jays could get a comp pick for him. Tallet was much better against lefties than righties.
 
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He kept playing Buck to keep him as a Class B free agent so the Jays could get a comp pick for him. Tallet was much better against lefties than righties.
If the numbers proved that Tallet was effective as a specialist, it's Gaston's fault for running him out there against everyone. That's what stats are for. It's not Tallet nor AA's fault for Tallet's overall stat line. Gaston's the one putting him out there, and Tallet is just doing what he's told.

And Buck was going to be a class B free agent regardless of games played. It's based on the previous two years, and by mid August, and ALL of September, there was zero reason as to justify not playing Arencibia.

I read an article or chat somewhere that quoted Gaston wanting to give Buck a chance to hit an arbitrary, and meaningless, number of homeruns, just for the sake of it.

Either way, if Tallet is up to task, they can use him as a specialist rather than throwing Perez out there.
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