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Old 02-02-2023, 05:43 PM   #13041
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you're an obsessive little weirdo and i'd call you the same if your obsession was with vince or anyone else/any other promotion. nothing to do with TK or AEW.
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Old 02-02-2023, 05:49 PM   #13042
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Good to see AEW doing house shows. feels like another good step to increasing the brands reach, testing new markets etc. I'm a bit surprised it took this long but I assume the pandemic era played a part in the delay.

I will be curious to see what sort of cards they offer and if its a development type roster doing the House shows or some upper talent. With the roster depth they have you could certainly have your stars work shows and still have a lightish schedule.

Makes my chances of seeing them in person higher next time in the U.S. which is cool for me.
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Old 02-02-2023, 06:10 PM   #13043
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but i've never said FEDBAD? nor is that how i feel anymore strongly than AEWBAD? just keep creating the narratives my dude.
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FEDBAD
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Old 02-02-2023, 06:35 PM   #13044
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Old 02-02-2023, 07:11 PM   #13045
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lolllllllllllll those vickie guerrero posts were fake
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Old 02-02-2023, 07:13 PM   #13046
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Old 02-02-2023, 07:15 PM   #13047
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Yeah but she still killed Eddie and then desecrated his grave just to FEDBAD.
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Old 02-03-2023, 08:19 AM   #13048
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Sounds like Jake the Snake got the email directive
I concede this is just a ridiculous take from Jake “The Bad Take” Roberts. Even in a best read of this, Khan has the benefit of seeing everything WWE/Vince have done for 30 years and you’re able to learn from what worked and what didn’t and what choices you’d make that differed. It’s not like Tony is this wrestling savant (although he is clearly on the spectrum) and is Booker of the Year (obviously).
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Old 02-03-2023, 03:29 PM   #13049
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Saraya tweeted a picture of herself wearing an Office “Prison Mike” shirt and Ringside News called her out for it as it was obviously a FEDBAD.

Cumdorx is running Ringside News.
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Old 02-04-2023, 02:25 PM   #13050
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If Jake has said it then you know it can’t be true.
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Old 02-04-2023, 02:56 PM   #13051
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I came back just for this feud.
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Old 02-04-2023, 07:50 PM   #13052
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If Jake has said it then you know it can’t be true.
Jake also recently said Kenny Omega is better than Ric Flair or Shawn Michaels ever were, because you know, Tony said more FEDBAD, and Jake likes his paycheck.
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Old 02-04-2023, 09:10 PM   #13053
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I hope it's paycheck. Otherwise, DDP May have to go get him again.
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Old 02-05-2023, 11:16 AM   #13054
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I don’t understand how AEW could fuck up this MJF/Bryan Danielson story so bad.
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Old 02-05-2023, 11:41 AM   #13056
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Just found out that Orange Cassidy is an AEW Champion, holding a belt I never heard of, and that he beat PAC for it.

I get that it is a tertiary title that isn't important at all, but.... don't make a guy like PAC hold it in that case, and certainly don't make him lose to Orange Cassidy.
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Don’t worry, they’ll make up another new belt and put it on PAC shortly.
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I’ve never understood the “Orange Cassidy draws and sells merchandise” argument. They’re getting <1 million viewers and have sold maybe a few thousand t-shirts. That sort of shtick caps your audience. For everyone that eats up the act, there are 9 people who remember why they don’t waste their time with wrestling.
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AEW should just have a singles, tag and women’s title. The All-Atlantic, TNT, TBS and six-man can be binned and no one would be hurt.

If you want to spotlight shitty tags, run a six-man tournament every year. Done.
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Skeptical of AEW doing house shows. They have a lot of talent that needs to get better, but I’m not sure they only need reps. They might need an entirely different environment to change how they think about wrestling. You might have more injuries and they may chew up some of their markets. There aren’t exactly deep reservoirs of fans willing to go to these shows — it’s the same people, hence why they can only run some markets once a year.

That being said, if Jeff Jarrett’s booking them and they end up as their own little universe, they could be better than AEW proper. It wouldn’t surprise me if when Tony Khan has a mental breakdown, Jeff Jarrett ends up running the whole show. That’s if he doesn’t make himself too many political enemies before then by outshining AEW.
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AEW should just have a singles, tag and women’s title. The All-Atlantic, TNT, TBS and six-man can be binned and no one would be hurt.

If you want to spotlight shitty tags, run a six-man tournament every year. Done.
Granted I don't watch, but I do like the concept of a secondary title for the men. Women certainly don't need two belts.
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I just can’t wrap my head around what that belt means in kayfabe. Like…what is it? It’s helped absolutely no one. If you didn’t have it, there might be more of a need to push some of the guys you’re trying to placate with it up the card. Darby may not feel so stale, Joe could be cutting money promos, etc. It boxes you in more than it opens you up.

Cody wanted something. Righto, give him a tournament win. Their equivalent to a King of the Ring. He can be awarded a belt for that. He could have won it in 2019 and 2020 to establish it, put over Darby in 2021 and Wardlow could have won it last year. That would probably have helped out those guys more than being TNT Champion does/did.
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You can book a secondary title well, obviously. But they don’t and they won’t, so it’s just a pragmatic thing to get rid of it. But the concept of the belt was just so…arbitrary to me. Like they felt like they had to create something because hardcore fans are marks for the IC Title still.
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It also doesn’t help that they’ve used other companies’ belts on their TV too, diluting things even more. You had the Impact World Title floating around there for a while. I’m not sure if he’s using it on TV, but Omega is also the IWGP US Champion. It’s going to be a barrier of entry for some people, because it’s just too much. Championships should make your product easier to navigate, not harder. “Oh, that guy’s a champion, he must be a really good wrestler.” You’ve got 8 men’s slots for ROH (too much), 8 for AEW and the IWGP US takes that up to 17 fucking men’s belts. And then you’ve got to factor in that opens up the rest of New Japan’s belts too. Yuck.

Get rid of TNT, ROH TV, ROH Pure (use Pure Rules as a gimmick sometimes), all six-man belts. Unify the AEW and ROH Women’s and just call it the “Women’s World Championship.” TBS goes bye-bye. As funny as it sounds, I’d hear out keeping the All-Atlantic as something to defend at the house shows. Just get it off Orange Cassidy. MAYBE recognize the IWGP US as part of your New Japan partnership, because it’s a regional US Title and that can sometimes give you a bonus PPV title match or something.
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I’d honestly consider bringing the AEW and ROH Tag Titles together too. And the World Titles for that matter. Honestly, why are they even doing ROH? There no reason for Tony Khan to have two wrestling promotions. His purchase of ROH should lead to a unification.
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That's why I said I like the concept of a secondary title. I guess secondary titles haven't actually meant squat anywhere for quite some time....

I'm stuck living in the past thinking about guys like Rock/Austin/HHH fighting and feuding over the IC belt and being built up big before moving up to the next level.
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WWE’s done fine with theirs. They’re trying, and have been for a long time, even if cynical snarks want to deny it. Gunther seems to be en route to legit being one of the more accomplished IC Champions ever. It’s just not realistic to put a secondary belt on a guy and go “see, he’s going places” if you don’t actually send them places, which is the problem with AEW. They think there’s something magic about holding gold because of the belt mark mentality.
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I don’t think it’s a coincidence Adam Page decided to sabotage CM Punk when he was set to lose the belt, and Britt Baker unleashed the harpies on Thunder Rosa once she was champion.
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The TBS title is the worst one. They made it because WBD had them switch networks, that is it! Then they put it on the female who looks like an absolute killer. Instead of her wanting to go after the main Women's title, her character is undefeated, dominate, and just happy to have a meaningless title.

They have the AEW title, TNT title, TBS title, All Atlantic title, tag titles, trios titles, FTW title, Dynamite Diamond Ring, Men's Owen Hart tournament champion, women's Owen Hart tournament champion, Casino Ladder Match winner, Casino Battle Royale winner, plus 5 additional AEW roster members who are ROH champions.

That is WAY too many accolades. How can they expect the audience to care about any of those when 60% of the people on the show all have some kind of title?
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Oh wow, I forgot all about the FTW Title.
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Maybe they should just double-down and create a set of FTW Tag Titles for Hook & Jungle Boy. Start up a whole new promotion around the concept: Famous Tony’s Wrestling.
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Jungleboy and Hook are done now though from what I heard. Hook will prob move onto someone else for the next month so TK can come up with some new HOOK_______ name for him and then have him disappear for several months again before coming back to form _______HOOK with yet another person. Rinse, repeat.
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Member when they teased Hookhausen for months and finally Danhausen won him over and they came together and everyone loved it and then Hook randomly disappeared and came back and was suddenly in Junglehook and apparently has nothing to do with Danhausen for no apparent reason now?
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Is Danhausen still around, or is he being punished for being Punk’s pal? But yeah, more masterful storytelling from AEW.
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Jungleboy and Hook are done now though from what I heard. Hook will prob move onto someone else for the next month so TK can come up with some new HOOK_______ name for him and then have him disappear for several months again before coming back to form _______HOOK with yet another person. Rinse, repeat.
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No more JungleHook?

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AndrettiHook
Hook El Idolo
HookOgogo
BanHookdo
Brock AnderHook
Colt HookBana
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All Hooko Ethan Page Hook
Fuego Del Hook
HookSilver
ArcherHook
Hookasaurus
Daddy Magic Hook
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HookMorato
Penta El Hook
SkyHook
SonnyHook
Hook and Swerve
WardHook
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I’m actually going to be surprised if SkyHook isn’t a thing at some point. You just need to bring Scorpio back as a babyface.
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Should have Hook develop multiple personalities, one a face and one a heel. When he's a face he teams with Perry to form JungleHOOK. When his heel personality takes over he teams with Luchasaurus in HOOKasaurus. This ends up in a feud where both teams face off with Hook randomly spazzing out and switching personalities/teams multiple times during the match.
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Jerichohausen was formed on the Jericruise. Jericho came out dressed exactly like Danhausen, face paint and everything.
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