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Old 03-03-2013, 12:12 PM   #81
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I'm a fan already. The funniest part to me is how he danced into the interview with a woman. He spun her out of the shot, and she was never acknowledged again. Did she just disappear or what? Hilarious.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:20 PM   #82
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:50 PM   #83
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Probably an oversight/doesn't mean anything but they've added Fandango to the WWE.com roster page, while Johnny Curtis is still listed as a member of the roster as well.

Would love to see creepy Johnny Curtis return and actually have him using two different characters on television.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:56 PM   #84
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I was saying to somebody last night that I thought a funny thing for them to do would be have the announcers play it deadpan like "that's Johnny Curtis, he seems to think he's a dancer now" or something and just generally have him be a bit strange
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:20 PM   #85
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Johnny is a very attractive man with the longer hair, but his mannerisms on SD made him seem too fruity. The homophobes ain't gonna dig it.

I, for one, think he's fabulous.
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He's a heel, right?
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Probably an oversight/doesn't mean anything but they've added Fandango to the WWE.com roster page, while Johnny Curtis is still listed as a member of the roster as well.

Would love to see creepy Johnny Curtis return and actually have him using two different characters on television.
The many faces of Curtis.
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:57 PM   #89
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I'd be perfectly happy if Johnny Curtis portrayed half of the roster.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:47 PM   #91
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Which makes me want to hear Ricardo Rodriguez announce Fandango.

After weeks of nobody being able to say his name right, he approaches a professional... and the rest is legend....
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Probably an oversight/doesn't mean anything but they've added Fandango to the WWE.com roster page, while Johnny Curtis is still listed as a member of the roster as well.

Would love to see creepy Johnny Curtis return and actually have him using two different characters on television.
Didn't Mike Bucci play Simon Dean and Nova for a bit at the same time?

This is doable. Also...

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I am for the idea of firing everyone else and just making WWE the most elaborate one man show of all time.
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Didn't Mike Bucci play Simon Dean and Nova for a bit at the same time?

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Yeah, he played Nova for a short while after ONS with the BWO in a feud against the Mexicools
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I was saying to somebody last night that I thought a funny thing for them to do would be have the announcers play it deadpan like "that's Johnny Curtis, he seems to think he's a dancer now" or something and just generally have him be a bit strange
This is something I'd like to see happen, too. Don't take the gimmick too seriously and acknowledge that "That's Johnny Curtis -- Winner of NXT Season 4..." Fandango getting so stressed about his name being pronounced right could have much more material if he weren't happy with the announce team calling him "Johnny Curtis" all the time.

Also, in my heart of hearts, I truly believe that Fandango should be the next Intercontinental Champion. We've seen a lot of established mid-card and even main event guys holding the belt lately -- I think it would be a breath of fresh-air for a relatively young (in an exposure sense) talent like Curtis to get the belt.
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So yeah, I already can't stand his promos and not in a good way. They are change the channel worthy, although I. Do like Curtis. This is just bad.
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Also, Ricardo Rodriguez announcing Fandango has to happen. It just has to happen. Later on in the show, Del Rio can ask Ricardo "What was all that about?" and Ricardo plays it off like it's nothing. The next week, Ricardo shows up with a black eye and Del Rio wants to know what is going on. Ricardo says it is nothing and Del Rio reminds Ricardo that he is his friend, and that if someone is hurting his friend he wants to know about it. Ricardo denies anything happened but in the meantime Ricardo keeps acting as Fandango's ring announcer as well.

Del Rio and Fandango have a few backstage interactions where Del Rio makes it clear that he doesn't like Fandango and doesn't trust him, and Fandango arrogantly shrugs it off. Eventually Del Rio is wrestling a match when Fandango makes his way out with a microphone. He has some footage for Del Rio to watch. We see security camera style footage that reveals Fandango has been paying Ricardo off as an announcer with dancing lessons, and because Ricardo doesn't quite get it (but is pretty amazing), Fandango gets rough with him. Del Rio is distracted and loses to whoever he is wrestling.

Del Rio vs. Fandango. Feud of the century. Fandango wants to put Ricardo's services on the line, but Del Rio says that he doesn't gamble with his friend's life, and he wants Ricardo to choose what he wants. That's enough for Ricardo, who helps Del Rio in his match against Fandango, revealing that Del Rio has secretly been training him as a wrestler by almost knocking Fandango's head off with an enziguri.
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If that also leads to Ricardo putting on his El Local costume to have a few matches with Curtis, bonus. Fandango can be all "I want to get you in this ring if you're man enough, Ricardo," and Ricky is all "See you later tonight," but then we see him later and he's feigning a tummy-ache in front of Del Rio and the General Manager of whatever show this is on. He says that he doesn't know if he can face Fandango later tonight. El Local steps up as Ricardo's replacement, though.

This, of course, leads to Fandango becoming obsessed with who is El Local and why he is protecting Ricardo. He accuses Del Rio, but Del Rio is proven to be a completely separate entity. Fandango challenges El Local to a PPV match and he wants El Local to put his mask on the line. Ricardo Rodriguez comes out, representing El Local, and has him on the phone. Fandango demands to talk to El Local. Ricardo hands the phone over and Fandango asks him "What? You want...to dance with *whatever his female dance partner is called*? Fine! I'll see you at *whatever PPV it is*! And you won't forget the name...he hung up on me!"

At the PPV, El Local again upsets Johnny Curtis, and after the match, the lights change to a goofy ballroom setting and El Local stands in the ring with his hand outstretched towards, let's call her "Esmeralda" at ringside. She acts all flustered and gets in the ring and has a bit of a tango with the surprisingly tango-iffic luchador, El Local. An enraged Fandango attacks from behind, however, and he pulls off the mask of El Local to reveal...Ricardo Rodriguez! Curtis is so shocked that Ricardo can battle back and toss him out of the ring and continue his dance with Esmeralda.

It is revealed that Ricardo Rodriguez only wanted to dance to impress Esmeralda, and that he finally gets his moment with her at the expense of the man that stood between them on PPV.

On a follow-up TV show, Curtis is furious and says that he spoke to El Local on the phone. Ricardo brings out a homeless guy and reveals that he paid him $20 to fake the call. Ricardo then gets the bum to tell Fandango that "You ain't so smart, Mr. Johnny Curtis." Being referred to as "Mr. Johnny Curtis" by a homeless man is the final straw between Curtis and complete heel insanity, and we see him shed the Fandango gimmick and become "JohnnyCurtis JohnnyCurtis," with Johnny Curtis being so obsessed with being called "Johnny Curtis" by everyone that he makes it his name. Both names.
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So really all of this is just to make JohnnyCurtis JohnnyCurtis snap and become a bad-ass submission machine.
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:10 AM   #101
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Of course, early on you establish that Ricardo Rodriguez has a crush on Esmeralda and have him and Del Rio (and everyone else constantly refer to Fandango as "Johnny Curtis") to build to those big revelations of character.

Ricardo would then be a part-time in-ring competitor, and he could keep Esmeralda and Homeless Bob around as his entourage, of sorts. Del Rio can always act appropriately disgusted by Homeless Bob's presence in his dressing room.
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I'm sorry Noid, but that sounds downright terrible.
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This whole "You can't say my name, I won't wrestle" will get old really fast.
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It's all been terrible so far. This guy is honestly going to be Fandango for a long time, and be successful at it? I'm already tired of the name gag. At best, he is headed for Santino/Brodus/Tensai comedy land. Pretty soon it'll be Fandango versus Mark Henry in a twenty second match, then Fandango versus Sheamus in a twenty second match, then Fandango versus Randy Orton...you get the idea. The gimmick has to die at some point or he is long-term fucked.

The wrestling world is strange and weirder things have happened, but this has failure written all over it. I guess I'll put my foot in it when five years from now it's CM Punk vs. a white hot face Fandango main eventing Mania.

Edit - Admittedly, if he became comic fodder, I guess you could call it a successful gimmick...and his bank account wouldn't be unhappy.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:35 AM   #105
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Damien Sandow did exactly the same thing when he debuted and it got him over a lot faster than Cesaro, Tensai, Bo Dollops, Ryback, etc. It's establishing him as a heel and he'll likely start getting physical next week hitting the Zack Ryders with his finish and such.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:36 AM   #106
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If that also leads to Ricardo putting on his El Local costume to have a few matches with Curtis, bonus. Fandango can be all "I want to get you in this ring if you're man enough, Ricardo," and Ricky is all "See you later tonight," but then we see him later and he's feigning a tummy-ache in front of Del Rio and the General Manager of whatever show this is on. He says that he doesn't know if he can face Fandango later tonight. El Local steps up as Ricardo's replacement, though.

This, of course, leads to Fandango becoming obsessed with who is El Local and why he is protecting Ricardo. He accuses Del Rio, but Del Rio is proven to be a completely separate entity. Fandango challenges El Local to a PPV match and he wants El Local to put his mask on the line. Ricardo Rodriguez comes out, representing El Local, and has him on the phone. Fandango demands to talk to El Local. Ricardo hands the phone over and Fandango asks him "What? You want...to dance with *whatever his female dance partner is called*? Fine! I'll see you at *whatever PPV it is*! And you won't forget the name...he hung up on me!"

At the PPV, El Local again upsets Johnny Curtis, and after the match, the lights change to a goofy ballroom setting and El Local stands in the ring with his hand outstretched towards, let's call her "Esmeralda" at ringside. She acts all flustered and gets in the ring and has a bit of a tango with the surprisingly tango-iffic luchador, El Local. An enraged Fandango attacks from behind, however, and he pulls off the mask of El Local to reveal...Ricardo Rodriguez! Curtis is so shocked that Ricardo can battle back and toss him out of the ring and continue his dance with Esmeralda.

It is revealed that Ricardo Rodriguez only wanted to dance to impress Esmeralda, and that he finally gets his moment with her at the expense of the man that stood between them on PPV.

On a follow-up TV show, Curtis is furious and says that he spoke to El Local on the phone. Ricardo brings out a homeless guy and reveals that he paid him $20 to fake the call. Ricardo then gets the bum to tell Fandango that "You ain't so smart, Mr. Johnny Curtis." Being referred to as "Mr. Johnny Curtis" by a homeless man is the final straw between Curtis and complete heel insanity, and we see him shed the Fandango gimmick and become "JohnnyCurtis JohnnyCurtis," with Johnny Curtis being so obsessed with being called "Johnny Curtis" by everyone that he makes it his name. Both names.
Okay, I see that happening in the WWE Universe. Nonetheless, I believe this hoopla over properly pronouncing Fandango's name will result in Lillian Garcia announcing during his debut.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:25 PM   #109
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I was at the Smackdown taping and he made his debut (again). Still didn't wrestle because Lillian Garcia announced his name wrong.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:31 PM   #110
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I'll post the vid as soon as it finishes uploading. It wasnt a bad segment, really.
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Here it is. Sound and vid quality weren't great due to it being from my iphone 3GS, but came out better than I thought.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:56 PM   #113
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Damien Sandow did exactly the same thing when he debuted and it got him over a lot faster than Cesaro, Tensai, Bo Dollops, Ryback, etc. It's establishing him as a heel and he'll likely start getting physical next week hitting the Zack Ryders with his finish and such.
Maybe initially but after some time Cesaro managed to surpass him.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:27 PM   #114
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While I'm still waiting to form an opinion on him, does anyone else think that Vince once again is 2 years behind pop culture? Dancing with the Stars is kinda past its peak interest, just like pirates were starting a downturn in interest when Paul Burchill started swinging from ropes for his entrance.
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Yeah, I've been trying to figure out what spurred Fandango's character as well. I suspect it was Dancing With The Stars though, as it still has a fan following. I just find the whole character rather creepy, gives off this sex-offender vibe. It's just that look, I dunno.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:46 PM   #116
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Maybe initially but after some time Cesaro managed to surpass him.
Cesaro is doing great but he was US champ before they started putting real effort into his character. His first few months as rugby player / Aksana boner / multilingual foreigner were a total mess. Teddy Long isn't exactly a perfect foil for your debut feud. If theyre going the Sandow route with Fandango it's a proven success as a starting point so it makes sense to try it again. At the very least he's not just coming out squashing guys nobody cares about then dancing afterwards.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:10 PM   #117
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I can definitely see "Faaaaaahn- Daaaaaahn- Goooooo" catching on, even possibly as much as to have it end up being the opening to his theme. Every time I read his name I can't help but say it in my head.
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I was at the Smackdown taping and he made his debut (again). Still didn't wrestle because Lillian Garcia announced his name wrong.
Aha, thanks for exposing the red herring.
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Teddy Long isn't exactly a perfect foil for your debut feud.
Yeah, look how well that turned out for Drew McIntyre.
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