NCAA Football 2006 Thread - Page 23

**Nervous Ferret** · 12-29-2006, 06:18 PM

lol Mizzou

2 point conversion going for the win. Bold call by the OSU coach

**D Mac** · 12-29-2006, 08:25 PM

Just read about that. Damn. Although we had a 2 touchdown lead in the 4th quarter and blew it. Kinda sounds firmiliar...

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-30-2006, 03:35 AM

Texas Tech with like the greatest comeback ever today

**BCWWF** · 12-30-2006, 05:38 AM

Lol, I feel like an idiot. It was an awesoem game by Temple, Coffman and Daniel for the most part, but fuck, that fourth quarter. We should have had it in the bag. At least Minnesota is going to be making the headlines tomorrow.

**Linkbowler** · 01-01-2007, 10:43 PM

Um. Boise. Freaking. State.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-01-2007, 10:44 PM

Michigan's offense could not do shit today, USC romped 'em. Probably going to be the preseason #1 going into next season

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-01-2007, 11:17 PM

Boise State vs Oklahoma hot game

**Crimson** · 01-02-2007, 12:28 AM

watching the Ok/Boise game damn that laterall was BADASS

**Crimson** · 01-02-2007, 12:29 AM

Tie game baby...umm go Boise state

damn that laterall was a designed play,crazy

**Crimson** · 01-02-2007, 12:57 AM

Statue of liberty play to end it was also awesome. Great game.

They interviewed Ian after the game as he proposed his cheerleader gf to marry him..woulda been better if the guy that was interviewing him didn't come out and spoil it..idiot.

**James Steele** · 01-02-2007, 02:11 AM

Bush league bullshit, but Boise State proved they are a damn good team.

**BCWWF** · 01-02-2007, 03:52 AM

Damn this sucks. I left my friends at like 10:30 this morning all ready to relax and watch a bunch of college football, but I fell alseep from noon until like 6 p.m., so I missed Cotton, Capitol One and most of the Gator and Outback.

I caught the end of the Rose though, and I am glad that USC won. First of all, I like USC more, I like Pete Carroll a lot too, and I am not a big Michigan fan at all. Also, now there won't be any bullshit about Michigan being somehow deserving of No. 1. Earlier in the year, Stima and I talked about how for me, there wasn't really a big player I could identify with USC this year, like after having essentially the nations most prominant player for the past three or four years, but now, I think Jarrett is that player. He just didn't get as much publicity as some other big players. Also, he seems like a pretty big dick. Like he made a pretty sweet catch tonight, then tossed the ball to the Michigan players while they were on the ground and stuff. When the Vikes draft a WR, I would prefer Ginn or Johnson over him any day.

As for Fiesta, I didn't get to watch as much of this as I wanted to either. Part of it sucks because being indoor isn't cool at all, and I don't find Oklahoma to be a particularly interesting team this year. As for the blue turf and being undefeated, I don't know hardly anything about Boise, so it was hard to get into it. I thought Boise came out looking good, and I thought they had an image in their game that proved they should be here, and now I could really see them changing the college landscape. What really pissed me off was that we watched a movie, then checked the game and Boise was down eight with a minute and a half left, so my friends changed it back to some bullshit MTV reality show about dumbass former Real World characters. Now it turns out Boise State pulled it off. Fuck them. They have got to finish real high in the last rankings though, and if they can get a good non-conference schedule, a future season like this could make them a legit contender for the BCS Title.

As of right now, this is how I see the final rankings:
1. Ohio State
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. USC
5. Boise State
6. Michigan
7. Oklahoma
8. Wisconsin
9. Louisville
10. Auburn

**BCWWF** · 01-02-2007, 04:10 AM

Now that I have an objective post down, I am going to go on a rant about how Michigan and the Big Ten is overrated, as was seen today with Michigan's loss.

I never thought that Michigan deserved to be in the national championship game, and I had a few reasons. One, in the current setup, without the playoffs, Michigan already lost to the top team. Another loss proves that they never belonged, a win proves nothing. You can argue that Michigan almost beat Ohio State at the shoe, but I will argue that rivalry games, especially the biggest rivalry game in the nation, are not standard. I think Michigan showed today how good it really is. A top 10 team, but probably not No. 2.

The second reason I think Michigan did not deserve to be in the BCS championship is because they went undefeated for 11 weeks as a product of the Big Ten being in an off year. People look at the Big Ten and see an undefeated team, a one loss team and a two loss team, and think the Big Ten is having a great year. The reality is that behind those three teams, the Big Ten as a whole is having a big down year. Penn State fell flat for most of the year, Purdue was nothing special, Iowa had a horrible breakdown for the second half and Minnesota was a disgrace to a bowl game. I have said before that Wisconsin had so many wins because of an easy schedule (nobody in nonconfernece, no Ohio State in conference). Today might have proven that they are actually a pretty good team, but you can also argue that Arkansas is not the team today that it was when it was getting all the big wins. I would normally consider the Big Ten the second best overall football conference. The SEC always has some top tier teams and a lot of very good teams as well. The Big Ten is usually the same way, but this year it simply had no depth.

So basically what I am trying to say is that instead of judging Michigan by the teams they lost to, it is more accurate to judge the teams that they beat. Michigan lost to the No. 1 team, but Florida beat No. 13, 9 and 8. Any team can lose to Ohio State, but not every team can win 12 games with the nations best strength of schedule. Yeah, Florida lost to a worse team than Michigan did, but they also beat more better teams. Michigan beat all of its opponents except Ohio State, but in their 11 wins, they didn't beat teams the caliber of Tennessee, LSU and Arkansas. For Michigan to prove that they wouldn't have lost to Auburn, they would have had to go undefeated, in my opinion, because the Big Ten was not a great conference this year.

I think the right decision was made, and I am glad there will not be controversy when the BCS game is done.

RP · 01-02-2007, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesSteele

Bush league bullshit, but Boise State proved they are a damn good team.

So now everyone is saying the Boise State deserves a shot at OSU. Honestly, i thought OU was had a great team and was probably screwed out of being in the National Championship game and Boise State beat them. I'm not sold on OSU being that much better then OU Florida or USC. That said, why shouldnt Boise St. get a chance? Its not fair to them. They beat every team they faced this year including OU. They deserve the shot. This system is just so fucked up. It pisses me off.

Any system that leaves even a decimal of a chance that there could be a co-national champion, is a horrible system and meaningless too. Makes no sense. YOU'RE SPORT IS CRAP IF THERE IS CO CHAMPIONS! Fucking idiots in the NCAA.

RP · 01-02-2007, 04:34 AM

Could you imagine if these BCS games were playoff games? And that same Boise/OU game just happend and Boise was moving on to play USC right now? I guarantee it would be George Mason (x 1000 ).

**BCWWF** · 01-02-2007, 05:27 AM

The biggest problem in college football, in my opinion, is that the smaller conferences are made to not matter. Why is the Sun Belt a Div. 1A school? All they do is lose to BCS schools in non-conference and then fall off the map. Boise State hopefully made a big step in getting some credibility for the smaller schools tonight, although the results are yet to be seen. With the right combination and a good non-conference schedule, I'd expect to see teams like Boise State, Utah, maybe even Houston reach the BCS semi-regularly in the future. Not every year, but so a Boise State in BCS isn't the shocking thing that it was this year.

**BCWWF** · 01-02-2007, 05:31 AM

Also, Stima, when you said "they will be No. 1 preseason next year", did you mean Michigan or USC? I figure USC, but both should be pretty high preseason. If you did mean USC, what do you think happens to the offense without Dwayne Jarrett? He seems to me, especially in this game, to be the best player on their offense.

The commentators also said something about that backup QB, Fernandez or something, competing for the starting job next year? I would be shocked if JDB lost it. Might not have been perfect, but he did a pretty good job, in my opinion.

**Skippord** · 01-02-2007, 09:18 AM

BOISE FUCKING STATE WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

RP · 01-02-2007, 11:08 AM

Heres the interesting thing. I think Boise St should be ranked #2 when the final polls come out. They were undefeated and they just beat a powerhouse football team in a BCS game. That reason enough. This team is good. They need to be # 2. How any team with 2 losses can be ranked above Boise St is beyond me and i guarantee you this topic is going to pick up nationally soon. Boise St should be number 2.

Now if they are #2. They should go into next seasons preseason polls ranked atleast top 10 if not top 5. They could be the BCS killer. If they were to go undefeated from the start to end next year , starting out ranked number 10. They'd be in the National Championship no questions asked. It would be impossible to not put them in the National Championship game.

I'm rooting for Boise St. I'm a Boilermaker fan, but i'm rooting for Boise St now too.

**BCWWF** · 01-02-2007, 12:29 PM

You are putting too much on Oklahoma, IMO

RP · 01-02-2007, 01:37 PM

I disagree. OU got screwed this year. They could be sitting with one loss ( Texas ) and talking about a National Championship game if they didnt get screwed like they did. OU is a great..not good .. great team. That was a huge win.

**James Steele** · 01-02-2007, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

I disagree. OU got screwed this year. They could be sitting with one loss ( Texas ) and talking about a National Championship game if they didnt get screwed like they did. OU is a great..not good .. great team. That was a huge win.

I agree with you 100%.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-02-2007, 04:29 PM

Yeah Mark Sanchez is a top QB recruit who probably could have won the starting job but he ran into a little sexual harrasment case (it was dropped but he def gave some bitch a dirty Sanchez) during spring ball

Lloyd Carr cannot coach in big games. I know in true TPWW fashion, the magnitude of the situation flat out doesn't matter and people perform the same in any platform so maybe I am wrong, but from what I've seen Carr can't win shit. He is garbage. Just a little something to throw out there though, how did Ohio State beating Michigan factor into Michigan not getting a chance to play them in the BCS game? Auburn and Florida could have very easily faced each other in the SEC Championship (after already playing each other earlier in the season) So I don't see why that factored into Michigan not getting a shot at the BCS title. That is kind of a mute point now, but just wanted to throw it out there.

Also, I want to see Boise State vs Ohio State. I want to see Winconsin get a shot after beating SEC runner-up Arkansas. Fucking gay how they won't make a playoff system...why can't they play a few more games? Better yet cut out that game againest Eastern Middle Southern Tennessee State College of Memphis so then you probably wouldn't have to add many. Another thing, I don't see how you could not be hyped up about Boise State playing Oklahoma (a team with really one loss) - if you weren't, do you get hyped for anything in relation to college football?

**James Steele** · 01-02-2007, 06:47 PM

I can honestly say that Boise State/OU was one of the most exciting sporting events I have ever watched.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-02-2007, 06:59 PM

I don't get how you couldn't be looking foward to that game though, its not like a few years ago where Utah played Pitt who barely crawled into a BCS game.

Boise State also ran the greatest play I've ever seen to win it, I really thought the Statue of Liberty was the sickest shit ever - then they run a variation of it with a behind the back hand off. Come on

**James Steele** · 01-02-2007, 07:05 PM

I was looking forward to it. I am an OU fan. I think people were looking over Boise State big time (I know I was).

**BCWWF** · 01-02-2007, 07:22 PM

Boise State - appearancewise, not gameplay - did not have the look of a big conference school, but they had a look of the spoiler. They came out and just looked cool, almost like the new wave vs. the old tradition. I am really pissed I didn't watch more of it, and even more pissed that I could have seen the ending but my friends made me watch MTV reruns.

**James Steele** · 01-02-2007, 08:13 PM

It will be on ESPN Classic this weekend (when they do the Instant Classics thing).

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-02-2007, 09:15 PM

Wake Forest vs Louisville, now theres a game I am not looking foward to.

And for good reason, 3-0 borefest thus far

**Crimson** · 01-02-2007, 09:51 PM

So tomorrows game is Russel a top qb for the draft too? If so are we seeing the top 2 for the draft in Quinn/Russell? I'll watch it jus for that.

**Nervous Ferret** · 01-02-2007, 10:13 PM

I was about to go to sleep, but I said, heck I guess I'll finish watching OU/Boise. SMART CHOICE

RP · 01-03-2007, 12:53 AM

God, the Wisconsin thing pisses me off too. Wisconsin has a great team. They can play with just about anyone in the country if given the chance, but because conferences are only aloud to have two teams in the BCS, Wisconsin got screwed. Again, thats just not fair. Its rediculous. When they do finally get a playoff system in place, we'll probably look back at all this BCS crap and say it didnt mean a damn thing, because basically it doesnt. OSU or Florida wont be playing the teams that can possibly beat them. Its just rediculous.

Those plays Boise St ran were amazing because of how well they were executed perfectly. If that team has enough poise and talent to execute those plays in the most crucial moments against a top notch football team, they can beat OSU. I dont care who OSU has. I dont care who Florida has. The argument isnt " They will beat OSU or Florida " its " They can beat OSU and Florida " and for that sake, there should be a playoff.

**BCWWF** · 01-03-2007, 04:13 AM

OK...I started making a post asking which playoff method you think would make the most sense for the NCAA to adopt. I went on to re-explain the method I think makes the most sense, and then showed how some other methods would have worked out.

What I have below is my method, and then the two most likely scenarios (or the two that the average fan would probably assume would work the best). What I found by doing this kind of shocked me, and I am surprised that no pro-bowl analyst out there has mentioned it. Had there been an eight team playoff this season with six BCS conference champions and two wildcards, the playoffs would not have included Michigan or LSU. Anyway, take a look at how these would have worked out. What I found out was that if the BCS didn't make a fifth game this year, they would have been fucked, and that to have a fair playoff system, there would have to be 16 teams.

My method: 11 conference champions, 5 wildcards, AP rankings
1. Ohio State (Big Ten)
16. Troy (Sun Belt)

8. USC (Pac-10)
9. Boise State (WAC)

4. LSU (Wildcard)
13. BYU (Mountain West)

5. Louisville (Big East)
12. Wake Forest (ACC)

3. Michigan (Wildcard)
14. Houston (C-USA)

6. Wisconsin (Wildcard)
11. Notre Dame (Wildcard)

7. Oklahoma (Big 12)
10. Auburn (Wildcard)

2. Florida (SEC)
15. Central Michigan (MAC)

*See, I think this is the most fair. All 10 teams that would normally make the BCS would qualify for this easily, barring a few conference champions being ranked real low, the top 10 teams in the polls would always make it, and it makes the smaller conferences actually have some significance. As you can see this year, there are really only three conference champions who are really bad, WAC and Mountain West could compete with the best of them.

Scenario 2: Six BCS conference champs, two wildcards, seeds based on BCS
1. Ohio State (Big Ten)
8. Wake Forest (ACC)

4. Louisville (Big East)
5. Oklahoma (Big 12)

3. USC (Pac-10)
6. Boise State (Small conference clause)

2. Florida (SEC)
7. Notre Dame (Independent clause)

* As you can see, this method would FUCK THINGS UP a whole hell of a lot more than they are now. Yeah, so Boise State gets in, but because of Notre Dame and Boise States clauses, the No. 3 and No. 4 teams in the nation would not be included. Looking at this just makes me cringe at the controversy that would be caused if it was in place, and realistically, this is probably the method that most people would assume they use.

Scenario 3: Top 8 ranked teams (BCS rankings)
1. Ohio State
8. Boise State

4. LSU
5. USC

3. Michigan
6. Louisville

2. Florida
7. Wisconsin

* Much better than the one above it, but still, kind of takes away the whole point of winning your conference, which makes it almost completely objective.

**Kris P Lettus** · 01-03-2007, 07:40 PM

LSU 34 ND 21

Be back, drunk, after the game, bitches..

**Kris P Lettus** · 01-04-2007, 12:49 AM

I gave ND too much credit in the Chocolate Thunderdome..

Horrible reffing..

Mad long game..

RP · 01-04-2007, 02:31 AM

Here's a question. I havent done any research about this, but has Charlie Weis ever won a big game for ND? Dare i say... Lloyd Carr jr.

**BCWWF** · 01-04-2007, 04:20 AM

If I was Notre Dame right now, I would just be happy to be back in the BCS. Yeah, this was a prime Notre Dame team, but they clearly didn't have the talent level of the teams they lost to. They'll win 9+ games next year and then be back on track with Jimmy Klausen.

RP · 01-04-2007, 01:34 PM

LOL notre dame has no business being in the BCS they're horrible and havent beat anyone this year. GO BCS WOOOOOOOOOO

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 01-04-2007, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Here's a question. I havent done any research about this, but has Charlie Weis ever won a big game for ND? Dare i say... Lloyd Carr jr.

While I think Lloyd Carr has had a lot better talent on D, I am starting to agree here. I mean ND looked good going into halftime, then from what I hear they looked like shit in the 2nd half (I fell asleep during halftime, fuck this working full time shit haha)

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 01-07-2007, 07:32 PM

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa hold the fuck up

Lloyd Carr won a National Championship. I hate Michigan as much as anyone but that's retarded.

01-02-2007, 04:10 AM	#893
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Now that I have an objective post down, I am going to go on a rant about how Michigan and the Big Ten is overrated, as was seen today with Michigan's loss. I never thought that Michigan deserved to be in the national championship game, and I had a few reasons. One, in the current setup, without the playoffs, Michigan already lost to the top team. Another loss proves that they never belonged, a win proves nothing. You can argue that Michigan almost beat Ohio State at the shoe, but I will argue that rivalry games, especially the biggest rivalry game in the nation, are not standard. I think Michigan showed today how good it really is. A top 10 team, but probably not No. 2. The second reason I think Michigan did not deserve to be in the BCS championship is because they went undefeated for 11 weeks as a product of the Big Ten being in an off year. People look at the Big Ten and see an undefeated team, a one loss team and a two loss team, and think the Big Ten is having a great year. The reality is that behind those three teams, the Big Ten as a whole is having a big down year. Penn State fell flat for most of the year, Purdue was nothing special, Iowa had a horrible breakdown for the second half and Minnesota was a disgrace to a bowl game. I have said before that Wisconsin had so many wins because of an easy schedule (nobody in nonconfernece, no Ohio State in conference). Today might have proven that they are actually a pretty good team, but you can also argue that Arkansas is not the team today that it was when it was getting all the big wins. I would normally consider the Big Ten the second best overall football conference. The SEC always has some top tier teams and a lot of very good teams as well. The Big Ten is usually the same way, but this year it simply had no depth. So basically what I am trying to say is that instead of judging Michigan by the teams they lost to, it is more accurate to judge the teams that they beat. Michigan lost to the No. 1 team, but Florida beat No. 13, 9 and 8. Any team can lose to Ohio State, but not every team can win 12 games with the nations best strength of schedule. Yeah, Florida lost to a worse team than Michigan did, but they also beat more better teams. Michigan beat all of its opponents except Ohio State, but in their 11 wins, they didn't beat teams the caliber of Tennessee, LSU and Arkansas. For Michigan to prove that they wouldn't have lost to Auburn, they would have had to go undefeated, in my opinion, because the Big Ten was not a great conference this year. I think the right decision was made, and I am glad there will not be controversy when the BCS game is done. Last edited by BCWWF; 01-02-2007 at 04:16 AM.

12-29-2006, 06:18 PM	#881
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	lol Mizzou 2 point conversion going for the win. Bold call by the OSU coach

12-29-2006, 08:25 PM	#882
D Mac Posts: 21,603	Just read about that. Damn. Although we had a 2 touchdown lead in the 4th quarter and blew it. Kinda sounds firmiliar...

12-30-2006, 03:35 AM	#883
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Texas Tech with like the greatest comeback ever today

12-30-2006, 05:38 AM	#884
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Lol, I feel like an idiot. It was an awesoem game by Temple, Coffman and Daniel for the most part, but fuck, that fourth quarter. We should have had it in the bag. At least Minnesota is going to be making the headlines tomorrow.

01-01-2007, 10:43 PM	#885
Linkbowler Killed fitty men! Posts: 987	Um. Boise. Freaking. State.

01-01-2007, 10:44 PM	#886
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Michigan's offense could not do shit today, USC romped 'em. Probably going to be the preseason #1 going into next season

01-01-2007, 11:17 PM	#887
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Boise State vs Oklahoma hot game

01-02-2007, 12:28 AM	#888
Crimson Posts: 6,108	watching the Ok/Boise game damn that laterall was BADASS

01-02-2007, 12:29 AM	#889
Crimson Posts: 6,108	Tie game baby...umm go Boise state damn that laterall was a designed play,crazy

01-02-2007, 12:57 AM	#890
Crimson Posts: 6,108	Statue of liberty play to end it was also awesome. Great game. They interviewed Ian after the game as he proposed his cheerleader gf to marry him..woulda been better if the guy that was interviewing him didn't come out and spoil it..idiot.

01-02-2007, 02:11 AM	#891
James Steele TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04 Posts: 29,886	Bush league bullshit, but Boise State proved they are a damn good team.

01-02-2007, 03:52 AM	#892
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Damn this sucks. I left my friends at like 10:30 this morning all ready to relax and watch a bunch of college football, but I fell alseep from noon until like 6 p.m., so I missed Cotton, Capitol One and most of the Gator and Outback. I caught the end of the Rose though, and I am glad that USC won. First of all, I like USC more, I like Pete Carroll a lot too, and I am not a big Michigan fan at all. Also, now there won't be any bullshit about Michigan being somehow deserving of No. 1. Earlier in the year, Stima and I talked about how for me, there wasn't really a big player I could identify with USC this year, like after having essentially the nations most prominant player for the past three or four years, but now, I think Jarrett is that player. He just didn't get as much publicity as some other big players. Also, he seems like a pretty big dick. Like he made a pretty sweet catch tonight, then tossed the ball to the Michigan players while they were on the ground and stuff. When the Vikes draft a WR, I would prefer Ginn or Johnson over him any day. As for Fiesta, I didn't get to watch as much of this as I wanted to either. Part of it sucks because being indoor isn't cool at all, and I don't find Oklahoma to be a particularly interesting team this year. As for the blue turf and being undefeated, I don't know hardly anything about Boise, so it was hard to get into it. I thought Boise came out looking good, and I thought they had an image in their game that proved they should be here, and now I could really see them changing the college landscape. What really pissed me off was that we watched a movie, then checked the game and Boise was down eight with a minute and a half left, so my friends changed it back to some bullshit MTV reality show about dumbass former Real World characters. Now it turns out Boise State pulled it off. Fuck them. They have got to finish real high in the last rankings though, and if they can get a good non-conference schedule, a future season like this could make them a legit contender for the BCS Title. As of right now, this is how I see the final rankings: 1. Ohio State 2. Florida 3. LSU 4. USC 5. Boise State 6. Michigan 7. Oklahoma 8. Wisconsin 9. Louisville 10. Auburn

01-02-2007, 04:34 AM	#895
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	Could you imagine if these BCS games were playoff games? And that same Boise/OU game just happend and Boise was moving on to play USC right now? I guarantee it would be George Mason (x 1000 ).

01-02-2007, 05:27 AM	#896
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	The biggest problem in college football, in my opinion, is that the smaller conferences are made to not matter. Why is the Sun Belt a Div. 1A school? All they do is lose to BCS schools in non-conference and then fall off the map. Boise State hopefully made a big step in getting some credibility for the smaller schools tonight, although the results are yet to be seen. With the right combination and a good non-conference schedule, I'd expect to see teams like Boise State, Utah, maybe even Houston reach the BCS semi-regularly in the future. Not every year, but so a Boise State in BCS isn't the shocking thing that it was this year.

01-02-2007, 05:31 AM	#897
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Also, Stima, when you said "they will be No. 1 preseason next year", did you mean Michigan or USC? I figure USC, but both should be pretty high preseason. If you did mean USC, what do you think happens to the offense without Dwayne Jarrett? He seems to me, especially in this game, to be the best player on their offense. The commentators also said something about that backup QB, Fernandez or something, competing for the starting job next year? I would be shocked if JDB lost it. Might not have been perfect, but he did a pretty good job, in my opinion.

01-02-2007, 09:18 AM	#898
Skippord I'm Mr. White Christmas Posts: 44,526	BOISE FUCKING STATE WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

01-02-2007, 11:08 AM	#899
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	Heres the interesting thing. I think Boise St should be ranked #2 when the final polls come out. They were undefeated and they just beat a powerhouse football team in a BCS game. That reason enough. This team is good. They need to be # 2. How any team with 2 losses can be ranked above Boise St is beyond me and i guarantee you this topic is going to pick up nationally soon. Boise St should be number 2. Now if they are #2. They should go into next seasons preseason polls ranked atleast top 10 if not top 5. They could be the BCS killer. If they were to go undefeated from the start to end next year , starting out ranked number 10. They'd be in the National Championship no questions asked. It would be impossible to not put them in the National Championship game. I'm rooting for Boise St. I'm a Boilermaker fan, but i'm rooting for Boise St now too.

01-02-2007, 12:29 PM	#900
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	You are putting too much on Oklahoma, IMO

01-02-2007, 01:37 PM	#901
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	I disagree. OU got screwed this year. They could be sitting with one loss ( Texas ) and talking about a National Championship game if they didnt get screwed like they did. OU is a great..not good .. great team. That was a huge win.

01-02-2007, 04:29 PM	#903
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Yeah Mark Sanchez is a top QB recruit who probably could have won the starting job but he ran into a little sexual harrasment case (it was dropped but he def gave some bitch a dirty Sanchez) during spring ball Lloyd Carr cannot coach in big games. I know in true TPWW fashion, the magnitude of the situation flat out doesn't matter and people perform the same in any platform so maybe I am wrong, but from what I've seen Carr can't win shit. He is garbage. Just a little something to throw out there though, how did Ohio State beating Michigan factor into Michigan not getting a chance to play them in the BCS game? Auburn and Florida could have very easily faced each other in the SEC Championship (after already playing each other earlier in the season) So I don't see why that factored into Michigan not getting a shot at the BCS title. That is kind of a mute point now, but just wanted to throw it out there. Also, I want to see Boise State vs Ohio State. I want to see Winconsin get a shot after beating SEC runner-up Arkansas. Fucking gay how they won't make a playoff system...why can't they play a few more games? Better yet cut out that game againest Eastern Middle Southern Tennessee State College of Memphis so then you probably wouldn't have to add many. Another thing, I don't see how you could not be hyped up about Boise State playing Oklahoma (a team with really one loss) - if you weren't, do you get hyped for anything in relation to college football?

01-02-2007, 06:47 PM	#904
James Steele TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04 Posts: 29,886	I can honestly say that Boise State/OU was one of the most exciting sporting events I have ever watched.

01-02-2007, 06:59 PM	#905
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I don't get how you couldn't be looking foward to that game though, its not like a few years ago where Utah played Pitt who barely crawled into a BCS game. Boise State also ran the greatest play I've ever seen to win it, I really thought the Statue of Liberty was the sickest shit ever - then they run a variation of it with a behind the back hand off. Come on

01-02-2007, 07:05 PM	#906
James Steele TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04 Posts: 29,886	I was looking forward to it. I am an OU fan. I think people were looking over Boise State big time (I know I was).

01-02-2007, 07:22 PM	#907
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Boise State - appearancewise, not gameplay - did not have the look of a big conference school, but they had a look of the spoiler. They came out and just looked cool, almost like the new wave vs. the old tradition. I am really pissed I didn't watch more of it, and even more pissed that I could have seen the ending but my friends made me watch MTV reruns.

01-02-2007, 08:13 PM	#908
James Steele TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04 Posts: 29,886	It will be on ESPN Classic this weekend (when they do the Instant Classics thing).

01-02-2007, 09:15 PM	#909
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Wake Forest vs Louisville, now theres a game I am not looking foward to. And for good reason, 3-0 borefest thus far

01-02-2007, 09:51 PM	#910
Crimson Posts: 6,108	So tomorrows game is Russel a top qb for the draft too? If so are we seeing the top 2 for the draft in Quinn/Russell? I'll watch it jus for that.

01-02-2007, 10:13 PM	#911
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	I was about to go to sleep, but I said, heck I guess I'll finish watching OU/Boise. SMART CHOICE

01-03-2007, 12:53 AM	#912
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	God, the Wisconsin thing pisses me off too. Wisconsin has a great team. They can play with just about anyone in the country if given the chance, but because conferences are only aloud to have two teams in the BCS, Wisconsin got screwed. Again, thats just not fair. Its rediculous. When they do finally get a playoff system in place, we'll probably look back at all this BCS crap and say it didnt mean a damn thing, because basically it doesnt. OSU or Florida wont be playing the teams that can possibly beat them. Its just rediculous. Those plays Boise St ran were amazing because of how well they were executed perfectly. If that team has enough poise and talent to execute those plays in the most crucial moments against a top notch football team, they can beat OSU. I dont care who OSU has. I dont care who Florida has. The argument isnt " They will beat OSU or Florida " its " They can beat OSU and Florida " and for that sake, there should be a playoff.

01-03-2007, 04:13 AM	#913
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	OK...I started making a post asking which playoff method you think would make the most sense for the NCAA to adopt. I went on to re-explain the method I think makes the most sense, and then showed how some other methods would have worked out. What I have below is my method, and then the two most likely scenarios (or the two that the average fan would probably assume would work the best). What I found by doing this kind of shocked me, and I am surprised that no pro-bowl analyst out there has mentioned it. Had there been an eight team playoff this season with six BCS conference champions and two wildcards, the playoffs would not have included Michigan or LSU. Anyway, take a look at how these would have worked out. What I found out was that if the BCS didn't make a fifth game this year, they would have been fucked, and that to have a fair playoff system, there would have to be 16 teams. My method: 11 conference champions, 5 wildcards, AP rankings 1. Ohio State (Big Ten) 16. Troy (Sun Belt) 8. USC (Pac-10) 9. Boise State (WAC) 4. LSU (Wildcard) 13. BYU (Mountain West) 5. Louisville (Big East) 12. Wake Forest (ACC) 3. Michigan (Wildcard) 14. Houston (C-USA) 6. Wisconsin (Wildcard) 11. Notre Dame (Wildcard) 7. Oklahoma (Big 12) 10. Auburn (Wildcard) 2. Florida (SEC) 15. Central Michigan (MAC) See, I think this is the most fair. All 10 teams that would normally make the BCS would qualify for this easily, barring a few conference champions being ranked real low, the top 10 teams in the polls would always make it, and it makes the smaller conferences actually have some significance. As you can see this year, there are really only three conference champions who are really bad, WAC and Mountain West could compete with the best of them. Scenario 2: Six BCS conference champs, two wildcards, seeds based on BCS 1. Ohio State (Big Ten) 8. Wake Forest (ACC) 4. Louisville (Big East) 5. Oklahoma (Big 12) 3. USC (Pac-10) 6. Boise State (Small conference clause) 2. Florida (SEC) 7. Notre Dame (Independent clause) As you can see, this method would FUCK THINGS UP a whole hell of a lot more than they are now. Yeah, so Boise State gets in, but because of Notre Dame and Boise States clauses, the No. 3 and No. 4 teams in the nation would not be included. Looking at this just makes me cringe at the controversy that would be caused if it was in place, and realistically, this is probably the method that most people would assume they use. Scenario 3: Top 8 ranked teams (BCS rankings) 1. Ohio State 8. Boise State 4. LSU 5. USC 3. Michigan 6. Louisville 2. Florida 7. Wisconsin * Much better than the one above it, but still, kind of takes away the whole point of winning your conference, which makes it almost completely objective.