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Old 12-05-2006, 04:45 PM   #841
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He got to play for a local high school team even though he didn't go to that high school. I had the same shit going on my high school when I played, and the kid was a huge clown. Home schooling kids should be illegal
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Old 12-05-2006, 05:01 PM   #842
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While we're talking about freshmen, let's talk about Chris Wells. He's a 6'1 230 lb 18 year old who can do this against the best defense in college football:

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Flordia has terrible management of the clock. Leak is so overrated. The defense is terrible. And if you say that Florida losing to Auburn a better matchup of Michigan losing to OSU, you are on crack.
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Kid is freaking sick. Wish we could have got him.
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:32 PM   #844
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Yeah he is perfect for Meyer's system, they should be set with that freshman wideout/returner/kinda running back they got and Tebow. Obviously they are only gonna add more too since they are the "king of the speed state" right now.

Michigan vs USC is gonna be a sick game
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He'll win the Heisman before he leaves IMO.
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:51 AM   #846
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Maybe, but people said the samethings about Quinn/Leak..so we'll see

Oh yeah, I bet Snead ends up at Louisville...WATCH
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:06 AM   #847
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Isn't Brohm coming back? I would expect Snead to go somewhere random in the south, like TCU or something.
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Old 12-06-2006, 10:37 AM   #848
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Well Brohm only has one year left and Snead needs to sit out a year because he transfered sooooo

But you could be right about somewhere random, I heard he was thinking about Houston.
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:49 PM   #849
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Won't be Sam Houston State though, lol
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:51 PM   #850
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I don't think Bomar had a redshirt year left, so if he transfered to a D1A school I think he could have only played a year or two or something. Plus nobody probably wanted to pick him right after that.

-edit, actaully I looked it up and he still has to sit out a season anyway as apart of the NCAA ruling, usually when you drop divisions you don't have to.

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Old 12-06-2006, 07:01 PM   #851
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It's probably not considered dropping divisions since D1A teams can play D1AA teams in the regular season still.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:20 PM   #852
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No you don't have to sit out if you transfer from 1A to 1AA
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Maybe, but people said the samethings about Quinn/Leak..so we'll see

Oh yeah, I bet Snead ends up at Louisville...WATCH
He's transferring to TCU.

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Old 12-08-2006, 09:59 AM   #855
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He decided on TCU? What a idiot, shoulda went to Louisville

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Old 12-15-2006, 11:53 AM   #856
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lol Jeff Bowden turned down the Alabama head coaching job, making him like the 18th coach to do so
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Old 12-15-2006, 04:21 PM   #857
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Has anybody read the column on ESPN.com about how fucked up the situation in Arkansas is right now? It is rediculous.
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:14 PM   #858
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Yeah, all the freshman want to transfer since they aren't running the spread

It makes sense. I mean yeah, having their parents or whatever was pretty ridiculous. At the sametime though, I am sure those recruits where told they would be running the same offense they ran in high school (since they have the same coordinator) I think how they went about it was dumb, but they have a valid issue.
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They also went 10-3 in the SEC though, so obviously what they are doing worked. If every athlete who was told false things in the recruiting process transferred, it would be a crazy world. I mean they do have a point if they think they are getting screwed out of the NFL or something, but at the same time, they are having hella success at Arkansas, and are going about this in a pretty fucked up way.
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Old 12-17-2006, 06:26 PM   #860
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Well the recruits themsleves not really, giving the ball to McFadden all the time doesn't help the QB - or better yet having a formation where McFadden plays QB and using that a lot isn't really what the #1 QB recruit wants to get into. I am assuming you know the story about how their HS coach got hired to be the offensive coordinator, so I mean I am sure they thought they'd be running the same offense. Not saying Arkansas should run the spread, since giving the ball to McFadden all the time seemed to work pretty well, but a QB, WR and pass catching TE that had success in the spread in high school is probably going to want to continue in that offense. I'm sure recruits get lied to all the time, but telling a recruit you are going to run the spread then not running it is a pretty big deal.

Not to mention I'm sure these kids are spoiled and want to be the stars of the team
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Yeah, the article on ESPN.com said the main complaint was that when they were recruiting, since Nutt hired basically their whole high school staff, he told them he would be running that system. So the parents were asking, at the meeting, when the team was going to change.

All things considered, a spread offense QB isn't neccessarily a great NFL prospect. Vince Young is working out because he is a beast, but look at like Alex Smith. What other spread QB's have been drafted? It doesn't seem like many.
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How long as the spread been around for though? I mean its a lot different from just a straight up option offense which used to be popular. There is a lot of option principles in the offense itself, but a lot of different types of variations. With the old triple option offense, it was pretty much run or run. With the spread offense you can have heavy run (WVU), heavy pass (Texas Tech) or a more balanced attack (FLA) The spread offense is somewhat new too, so you can't really look at history of players being drafted out of it since it hasn't been used for that long. Plus the last 2 drafts the first QB taken came out of a spread offense so that is something to think about.
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But look at Reggie McNeal, Brad Smith, Eric Crouch, etc., those are all double-threat type guys who were awesome in college but were immediatley turned into wide receivers. I think the quarterback going out of shotgun fulltime thing is not very condusive to becoming a good pro.

I mean I'm not trying to say that the spread offense will give these guys a better or worse chance at making the pros, I am just saying that right now, there is nothing like that system in the NFL and guys who come out of those systems haven't had the most success in the NFL. I mean look at Texas Tech, Cliff Kingsbury and those other QB's who put up tonns of yardage, they couldn't keep a match lit in the NFL. I just think they should shut up and play in a way that is going to help them win, because NFL scouts are not idiots, look at guys like Tavaris Jackson, second round draft pick QB from a D1AA school. If you have the talent and potential, somebody is going to pick up on you and you will be fine. Arkansas is not broken right now, and I don't see any reason why Nutt should have to fix it.
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Eric Crouch wasn't a a double-threat - he was strictly a running QB. Reggie McNeal, I personally think he should have been given a shot to play QB in the NFL. And Smith, he just isn't good enough to play QB in the NFL. All the guys you listed just weren't good enough to play QB in the NFL, its not becuase they came out of the spread. It is kinda hard to say the spread can't produce prospects when the first QBs drafted in the last 2 drafts came out of it.

Last time I checked, Tavaris Jackson didn't get 15 million dollar signing bonus or a 40 million dollar contract coming out of college. Pretty sure thats why that matters to these kids going to play where they show case their talent. Nutt doesn't need to fix anything, but what he did was a scumbag move. He brought in their HS coach and I am sure it was assumed he would be running the same offense, but now has not done it. Not saying he should, but what he did was pretty shady (I'm not the only way who feels this way, a lot of people think he only hired their coach to make sure he got the talent)

I can rattle off 150 QBs who played in "pro-style" offenses in college in the last 7 years that haven't done shit in the NFL. Plus, for the ninth time - it's not just the QB pissed off in this situation, there's a tight end and wide out as well.
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That's not what I am saying. I am saying that a QB who is amazing in the spread isn't neccessarily going to be amazing in the pros, and likewise, a talented QB who plays average on a bad team or in a bad system is going to be discovered, see Jay Cutler. I mean there are legit reasons why they would be upset, if they wanted to be a bigger part of the offense or whatever, but really they are very selfish reasons based on how good the team was this year. To imply that a 10-3 team in the SEC should change it's offense to better showcase a few idiot freshmen is just retarded. Coaches tell recruits whatever they need to if they want them bad, but I don't think Nutt has more of an obligation to the Razorback fans than he does three kids NFL draft position.
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Plus, for the ninth time - it's not just the QB pissed off in this situation, there's a tight end and wide out as well.
Apparently you typed the first eight in black font. I never implied that there was only one played upset, I used the word "they" and mentioned there was a QB, WR and TE specifically in earlier posts. The conversation got sidetracked into the discussion about spread QB's. Little comments like that aren't neccessary in a civil discussion.
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I should have phrased that to put it wasn't so much to you, but everyone who seems to be discussing this is forgetting that their is a TE and WR involved in this. Houston Nutt is a straight up scumbag though, I've heard a lot of rumblings about him before and he brings in the coach of the #1 QB prospect in the nation just by chance? I dunno, I hope all those players do transfer and they suck. Arkansas just extended his contract til 2012 lol Must be nice to be able to give the ball to the best RB in the nation every play.
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Yeah, when I saw that they extended his contract, I could just immediately tell that he will not be fulfilling that. I wouldn't be surprised if those three don't end up following that other guy out the door, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Arkansas doesn't go 10-3 in the next three years either.
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I dunno, Mustain was the starting QB for 8 out of those 10 wins. They'll still have McFadden, but they'll still be playing in the SEC. I dunno if they'll be able to get by again without a good QB.
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Well you also have to consider that for the most part, Arkansas came out of nowhere this year. Next year they will have a really similar team, but it won't be looked at the same by opponents. It seems like it happens all the time in college football where a team looks like it is over the hump and ready to be a BCS team, but the next year they flop.
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TCU vs Northern Illionis last night. With like nobody there. They should change how they do it, maybe move the bowls closer to where one of the schools is or something. I mean that should be a pretty exciting game, 2 of the more well known "mid-major" teams in the country.
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I don't think Northern Illinois ever really had a chance though, TCU was a good team this year, NI was just a solid small school with a good running back.

As for attendance, you might be surprised at how poorly attended most bowl games are. I went to the Independence Bowl last year in Shreveport, La. They have Independence Stadium, which is used for nothing else besides this game, and it might have sold out once in the past 10 years. When I was there, the end bleachers were essentially empty and the top sections were too. They have got to make a better way to do that.

Our bowl this year is in El Paso, which to fly to from anywhere is like $400+. They gave away 1000 free student tickets because of it, but honestly, most of them might not even go. They have a bunch of bus trips, the cheapest is like $100 to drive down there, double up in a hotel room, and come back. Also, the drive is like 20 hours. I don't know, it all seems pretty shitty, like first of all, why can't they get some sort of decent deal for like a charter flight or two. Second, why play a game in El Paso if nobody can get there. It just seems rediculous. At least I hear they do a good job of selling tickets because after all, what else are you going to do in El Paso?
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Yeah I know a lot of bowls are like that, that's why I think they should change it up. They should try to pick the smaller bowls by who location instead of conference, not base it off that 100% obviously, but like work something so say if the MPC computers bowl has the ACC#5 team and the UPS bowl has the #4 Big 12 team they could flip flop since the MPC bowl is closer to the Big 12 school.

You don't need to do this for any of the big time bowls because people are going to travel no matter what, but how many people are going to sell out a lot of money to see Boston College take on Toledo in the Diamond Nut San Fransico bowl?
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Yeah, and that bowl takes place in the MLB Giants stadium doesn't it? An Insight Bowl in Chase Field. How shitty an atmosphere for college football (based on the games I watched about five minutes of last year)
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Up 14 with 8 minutes left...that essentially means that Mizzou is better than USC.

Chase Coffman has got to be the top tight end, or close to it, coming into next season.

A win here would be huge though, because we'd likely be ranked preseason next year and the Illinois game in St. Louis would be sweet. Hold onto it!!!
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