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Old 11-11-2009, 08:54 PM   #1
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Was playing Underpass. Got my first Emergency Airdrop. Excitedly used it. Didn't look up. All 4 crates landed on the overpass
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:05 PM   #2
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lol I see so many people calling in airdrops indoors.

Got to call in the pavlow a couple times. That and the harrier strike usually rack me up a ton of kills. Went 38-7 on terminal because of them. Went from 7-0 to 20-0 in the span of three minutes, after calling in the harriers.
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:07 PM   #3
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Dunno if they actually changed it or I'm just better, but the M4A1 is beastly in this game.

Also doing some nice work with the RPD. Silencers on LMGs are lovely.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:07 PM   #4
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Yeah LMGs are my weapon of choice, seconded with sniper rifles.

Although I'm really digging the SCAR assault rifle atm.
Especially with the scrambler perk.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:31 PM   #5
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I was playing, uh still haven't gotten the names down for the levels, the one where its raining, and watched my teammate drop his airdrop and kill 2 of our teammates.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:54 PM   #6
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lol yeah, was just about to say the drops can kill you. Been hoping to sneak up on a camper, and plant one on him.
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:22 PM   #7
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:28 PM   #10
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Yeah I'm getting drunk right now and playing this. It rules.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:58 AM   #12
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I get nothing but lag. Oh well
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:23 AM   #13
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:25 AM   #14
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I've had 2 games lag out on PS3. Don't know what Assman is talking about.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:36 AM   #15
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I figured out how to stay talking to your friends during Team Deathmatch....instead of a party you need to do private chat....

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Old 11-12-2009, 10:03 AM   #16
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Campaign is much easier than COD 4, yet The Pit was much harder than COD4. Also loving the drones. Great addition.
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Nah prolly my shitty college connection that can't even properly load a YouTube video. It worked fine last night though
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:27 PM   #18
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Really love this game. It definitely lived up to the hype for me. Story is as epic as it gets, Spec Ops is really fun, and multiplayer is intense.

Story mode really draws out emotions while your playing which is always a good thing. After I beat it I turned around and started a new one its just so much fun.

The customization in multiplayer is nuts, I feel overwhelmed with the choices of perks and attachments I can use. Mostly been sticking with the ACR assault rifle with Sleight of hand, Stopping power, and Steady Aim. Favorite new perk is definitely bling, assault rifle with a grenade launcher and a red dot sight is win. Up to level 51 right now, but plan on gaming through the night with some friends.

Anyways I'm getting off here, and jumping right back into it.
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:38 PM   #19
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HATE THE HEARTBEAT SENSOR SO FUCKING MUCH WANT TO PUNCH EVERY BABY BORN DURING PRODUCTION THATS LISTED IN THE CREDITS

Also dissapointed I went from 90k rank to 250k ranked from not playing yesterday
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:42 PM   #20
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i the heartbeat sensor. just got one today, and my k/d has been been improving. i'm not just running around like a lunatic anymore.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:50 PM   #21
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Does the scrambler perk also effect the heartbeat sensor.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:56 PM   #23
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:03 PM   #24
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Does scrambler stop you showing up as a target for predators do you know?
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No, cold blooded makes you invisible from everything except the heartbeat monitor.
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Just played some more campaign and sprung Capt. Price from the Gulag. Big markout moment for me.
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:31 PM   #27
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The drop things are way too powerful, was playing earlier won a FFA 30-5 only one other person got to 10 because I managed to grab someone elses pavelow at the start then got one of my own. Can see missle launchers becoming a very common secondary weapon to conteract all the stuff in the air.
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:32 PM   #28
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So do you need all 3 too be totally utterly invisible? Thats overkill and a half.
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I love when people drop their airdrops on themselves. Came around a corner just as the guy died from his air drop, got a pave low out of it

Anyone drop a nuke yet or get close to it? I get to 10 in row and generally die, never gonna get it.
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I got 25 in a row, thanks to harriers and a pavlow, but I hadn't unlocked the nuke yet.
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Played an offline session with Khuntri and one other. Pretty fun, WITHOUT PERKS. We really like Terminal. Probably gonna play this offline from now on.

UNLESS you guys are down with custom games with no perks.

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Kills from perks from airdrops DO NOT count toward your killstreak btw if anyone thought otherwise.

Dug myself out of a huge hole just now. I was about 150 kills back to get to 1:1 because I was dicking around with the riot shield trying to get those challenges. Dead even right now though thanks to a 42-13 game and another 30-something game.

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Played an offline session with Khuntri and one other. Pretty fun, WITHOUT PERKS. We really like Terminal. Probably gonna play this offline from now on.

UNLESS you guys are down with custom games with no perks.

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boy oh boy that sounds fun
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Kalyx what is your problem with perks exactly?
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Kalyx what is your problem with perks exactly?
When I play an FPS, there's certain elements that I believe makes for a genral shooting game in regards to gameplay. These elements can be found in real gun fights - no matter how outlandish a shooter may be (you still need to take cover in Halo).

Here comes CoD with Perks that negate these fundamentals. I will say one, and only one, scenario to elaborate my issues with this feature:

There's a sniper housed up in a window, right? He's picking off the other team willy-nilly and he's racking up points. Everything's all good. That is until somebody finds him and coordinates a flank with a teammate to shut him down. Now let's evaluate this event from a CoD game and a respectable game.

- In CoD, this fucker may have a Perk that keeps him invisible from radar even has he shoots his sniper rifle. GAY

- In CoD, even if someone were to get the drop on him, he may have an armor Perk that gives him an extra half-second to retaliate and take out his enemy.

- In CoD, things like flanking and ambushes are complicated by buffers that can change an otherwise expected outcome.

So what does Infinity Ward do? They make counter-Perks. All this does if create that exploitation arms race I spoke about - when it could be solved by NOT. HAVING. PERKS.

Perks make an otherwise great FPS (we had fun without them) into an annoying... joke. And in no way can someone say they had more fun than we did with Perks. That is of course if we were arguing fun. We're talking about game balance and elements that betray the underlying engine of a certain genre. It's like Madden Cards that do silly shit like increase fumbles and make certain players faster or stronger. From what I know the Madden community don't like that shit. And I feel like Perks in CoD make the game into a joke, riddled with 'chance' outcomes like, "I hope he doesn't have armor" or "I hope we can find this guy since he's not on radar."

This to me isn't skill, it's Fiesta Mode in Halo. A party feature, not to be taken as seriously as most of the CoD community takes it. I actually respect CoD as a military strategy game, but NOT with Perks on. Than it's Smash Bros.
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When I play an FPS, there's certain elements that I believe makes for a genral shooting game in regards to gameplay. These elements can be found in real gun fights - no matter how outlandish a shooter may be (you still need to take cover in Halo).
Because there are no radar jammers or extra armor in real gunfights?



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There's a sniper housed up in a window, right? He's picking off the other team willy-nilly and he's racking up points. Everything's all good. That is until somebody finds him and coordinates a flank with a teammate to shut him down. Now let's evaluate this event from a CoD game and a respectable game.

- In CoD, this fucker may have a Perk that keeps him invisible from radar even has he shoots his sniper rifle. GAY

- In CoD, even if someone were to get the drop on him, he may have an armor Perk that gives him an extra half-second to retaliate and take out his enemy.

- In CoD, things like flanking and ambushes are complicated by buffers that can change an otherwise expected outcome.
It's not hard to find snipers. Even ones that aren't visible. And I like that there are radar jammers. It forces you to not completely rely on your radar.

There are no armor perks anymore so this is a moot point. And I never thought they were as big of a deal as otherrs did anyway.

What buffers are you talking about? I successfuly flank people all the time. By myself even.



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Perks make an otherwise great FPS (we had fun without them) into an annoying... joke. And in no way can someone say they had more fun than we did with Perks.
This is a completely ridiculous statement.



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This to me isn't skill, it's Fiesta Mode in Halo. A party feature, not to be taken as seriously as most of the CoD community takes it. I actually respect CoD as a military strategy game, but NOT with Perks on. Than it's Smash Bros.
Completely disagree. I think COD would still be fun without perks, but it wouldn't be played as tactical. At least not by most people. I think most would just be running around willy nilly looking for the nearest dot on the radar.

Perks make you think about every action you take. They force you to anticipate your opponent's actions, and devise ways of countering them. Good cod's have no wasted movement.
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When I play an FPS, there's certain elements that I believe makes for a genral shooting game in regards to gameplay. These elements can be found in real gun fights - no matter how outlandish a shooter may be (you still need to take cover in Halo).

Here comes CoD with Perks that negate these fundamentals.
How do perks negate fundamentals? Fundamental of a shooting game is...shooting. Not one perks negates this.

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I will say one, and only one, scenario to elaborate my issues with this feature:

There's a sniper housed up in a window, right? He's picking off the other team willy-nilly and he's racking up points. Everything's all good. That is until somebody finds him and coordinates a flank with a teammate to shut him down. Now let's evaluate this event from a CoD game and a respectable game.

- In CoD, this fucker may have a Perk that keeps him invisible from radar even has he shoots his sniper rifle. GAY
To be fair, this didn't happen till MW2, and you seem to have formulated this argument beginning with MW1. Besides, there's still muzzle flare, kill cam, and flat out visual confirmation that lets you know he's there.

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- In CoD, even if someone were to get the drop on him, he may have an armor Perk that gives him an extra half-second to retaliate and take out his enemy.
If your aim is better than his, it doesn't matter. It's about the player, not the perks. I'll take a shit player with Juggernaut (gone from MW2, incidentally), over an excellent player with no perks.

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- In CoD, things like flanking and ambushes are complicated by buffers that can change an otherwise expected outcome.
I feel you on this. It's like when I see a Spiny in a Mario game. I see a turtle like thing walking on the ground, and my default action is to jump on it. But those fuckers have that spine shell buffer, and just kill me. WHAT TO THEY EXPECT ME TO DO, SLIGHTLY ALTER MY PLAY STYLE?!?!?!

And Jesus man, of course it changes outcomes. It's like if I was sneaking up on a guy and he turned and killed me with his rifle? WTF? I was expecting to kill him and he goes and changes that? FUCK INFINITY WARD AND THEIR WEAPON BULLSHIT.

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So what does Infinity Ward do? They make counter-Perks. All this does if create that exploitation arms race I spoke about - when it could be solved by NOT. HAVING. PERKS.
This like saying Street Fighter shouldn't have special moves. Why can't everyone just use kicks and punches? But no, these fucking Fireballs come along that allow you to attack from across the screen! A fireball, of all things! Like you'd ever see that in a real fight. So they put in jumping to counter that, but then Shoryukens counter jump ins, and then...EXPLOITATION ARMS RACE!!!!!!!!!!

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Perks make an otherwise great FPS (we had fun without them) into an annoying... joke. And in no way can someone say they had more fun than we did with Perks. That is of course if we were arguing fun. We're talking about game balance and elements that betray the underlying engine of a certain genre.
Except it is balanced. Yeah, snipers can be silenced and radar invisible, but the silencers do piddly damage. Unless you're capable of a head shot every time (and even then with a silencer on I don't believe it's a sure one shot kill), you're left having to take 2 or 3 shots from a distance with a relatively high recoil rifle. I was ready to kill when I got a silencer for my Intervention, but I took it off after one match where I couldn't even kill in 2 shots. Infinity Ward knows what they are doing. There's nothing in this game I can think of that breaks the balance.

As for the underlying engine bit, come on. Games are supposed to be innovative. If the underlying engine is always the same, what's the point in playing different games?

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It's like Madden Cards that do silly shit like increase fumbles and make certain players faster or stronger. From what I know the Madden community don't like that shit. And I feel like Perks in CoD make the game into a joke, riddled with 'chance' outcomes like, "I hope he doesn't have armor" or "I hope we can find this guy since he's not on radar."
It's not chance. Skill. Again, to Street Fighter for an example. It's like playing someone and saying "Man I hope this guy doesn't know any combos".

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This to me isn't skill, it's Fiesta Mode in Halo. A party feature, not to be taken as seriously as most of the CoD community takes it. I actually respect CoD as a military strategy game, but NOT with Perks on. Than it's Smash Bros.
It's not a military strategy game. It's a First Person Shooter.
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How do perks negate fundamentals? Fundamental of a shooting game is...shooting. Not one perks negates this.

This alone says a lot about what you think of gunfights, but I'll humor you.

To be fair, this didn't happen till MW2, and you seem to have formulated this argument beginning with MW1. Besides, there's still muzzle flare, kill cam, and flat out visual confirmation that lets you know he's there.

Okay.

If your aim is better than his, it doesn't matter. It's about the player, not the perks. I'll take a shit player with Juggernaut (gone from MW2, incidentally), over an excellent player with no perks.

So let's take two players of equal skill, one has Juggy the other does not? What will happen in their encounter?

I feel you on this. It's like when I see a Spiny in a Mario game. I see a turtle like thing walking on the ground, and my default action is to jump on it. But those fuckers have that spine shell buffer, and just kill me. WHAT TO THEY EXPECT ME TO DO, SLIGHTLY ALTER MY PLAY STYLE?!?!?!

Not the same.

And Jesus man, of course it changes outcomes. It's like if I was sneaking up on a guy and he turned and killed me with his rifle? WTF? I was expecting to kill him and he goes and changes that? FUCK INFINITY WARD AND THEIR WEAPON BULLSHIT.

Don't even know what you're getting at here. You think I'm talking about getting shot?

This like saying Street Fighter shouldn't have special moves. Why can't everyone just use kicks and punches? But no, these fucking Fireballs come along that allow you to attack from across the screen! A fireball, of all things! Like you'd ever see that in a real fight. So they put in jumping to counter that, but then Shoryukens counter jump ins, and then...EXPLOITATION ARMS RACE!!!!!!!!!!

Not the same. Keep in mind I already gave you a fighting game with a mode that compares to CoD's Perk system. Stay on point.

Except it is balanced. Yeah, snipers can be silenced and radar invisible, but the silencers do piddly damage. Unless you're capable of a head shot every time (and even then with a silencer on I don't believe it's a sure one shot kill), you're left having to take 2 or 3 shots from a distance with a relatively high recoil rifle. I was ready to kill when I got a silencer for my Intervention, but I took it off after one match where I couldn't even kill in 2 shots. Infinity Ward knows what they are doing. There's nothing in this game I can think of that breaks the balance.

Okay.

As for the underlying engine bit, come on. Games are supposed to be innovative. If the underlying engine is always the same, what's the point in playing different games?

Strawman; I respect individual engines.

It's not chance. Skill. Again, to Street Fighter for an example. It's like playing someone and saying "Man I hope this guy doesn't know any combos".

Again, not the same. Also, combos are based on execution not buffers. ...And what type of pussy would hope that anyway.

It's not a military strategy game. It's a First Person Shooter.

Semantics, call it what you will. Perks hurt an otherwise decent game.
Anyway, you guys may see me online but I'm not 'online' - just playing Spec-Ops or offline multiplayer.
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