02-04-2017, 12:44 PM | #681 |
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Strowman vs. Corbin based off of the Rumble.
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02-04-2017, 12:59 PM | #682 |
It's a blood match!
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I agree that would make sense, but I was rewatching the Rumble the other day and after Corbin elimated Strowman, they didn't do a staredown or anything, Braun just left. I do think that would be a good idea but I don't think they alluded to it at all beyond the elimination.
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02-04-2017, 04:50 PM | #683 |
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The elim did sort of come out of nowhere so I wouldn't be surprised if nothing comes of it, or if it just leads to a thing (final 2?) in the ATGMBR.
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02-04-2017, 05:09 PM | #684 |
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02-04-2017, 05:11 PM | #685 |
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The key is, Stroman would actually go over in this scenario.
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02-04-2017, 05:14 PM | #686 |
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I edited my post to be more subtle.
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02-04-2017, 05:20 PM | #687 |
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02-04-2017, 07:46 PM | #688 |
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I think Corbin winning the IC title off of Ambrose would be good progress after winning the battle royal last year.
We've seen Strowman in the Rumble. I'd rather have him compete in a match with decent stakes. Maybe a number one contenders match for universal title. But then again who the fuck do you put him against that's a legit title contender and can make him look good in going over? |
02-05-2017, 12:43 AM | #689 | |
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Everybody in the match could attack him from the start. He could start tossing them around left and right and then go nuts with a ladder. Eventually numbers effect him and everybody works together to get him through an announce table. Everybody else battles and then eventually Strowman returns in KILLMODE again. There can be some cute power spots with him, but eventually he gets taken out again. But you can ultimately have him win the match or lose without being pinned or submitting. Given that it's the US Title, I wouldn't actually mind a Strowman title reign. Owens and Jericho can feud coming out of WrestleMania without the title on the line, or by having a Triple Threat with him at the next PPV. The things he would pick up just working with these guys. He eventually pins one and keeps the belt, then you have Owens turn on Jericho or whatever you have planned. |
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02-05-2017, 01:34 AM | #690 |
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Not a realistic card, but putting the pieces together as neatly as I can, I've concluded on this (and this is without The Hardys returning), in reverse match order:
Triple Threat Match for the WWE Championship John Cena (c) vs. Randy Orton vs. AJ Styles Universal Championship The Undertaker (c) vs. Roman Reigns Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar III Fatal 4-Way Match for the RAW Women's Championship Bayley (c) vs. Charlotte vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks Intercontinental Championship Bray Wyatt (c) vs. Luke Harper Mixed Tag Team Match Dean Ambrose & Renee Young vs. The Miz & Maryse Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Featuring Big Show, Shaq, Baron Corbin, The New Day, Gallows & Anderson, Enzo & Cass, Mark Henry, Kane, Bald Dolph Ziggler, Apollo Crews, the cruiserweights and, hopefully a returning Rey Mysterio Samoa Joe (w/ Triple H) vs. Seth Rollins Cruiserweight Championship Neville (c) vs. Kota Ibushi Ladder Match for the United States Championship Chris Jericho (c) vs. Kevin Owens vs. Braun Strowman vs. Sami Zayn vs. Sheamus vs. Cesaro vs. Rusev SmackDown Tag Team Championship The Revival (c) vs. American Alpha (w/ Hulk Hogan) Kickoff Match: Hair vs. Mask Dolph Ziggler vs. Kalisto Kickoff: 10-Woman Tag Team Match Alexa Bliss, Mickie James, Natalya, Victoria & Molly Holly vs. Becky Lynch, Naomi, Nikki Bella, Carmella & Lita Kickoff Match for the WWE UK Championship Tyler Bate (c) vs. Jack Gallagher Kickoff Fatal 4-Way Tag Team Match for the RAW Tag Team Championship Gallows & Anderson (c) vs. The New Day vs. Enzo & Cass vs. The Golden Truth |
02-06-2017, 08:43 AM | #691 |
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LMFAO @ posts #655, 656 and 659. Clearly, The Three Stooges know better than the average man how WWE would react if presented with a situation potentially involving DB wrestling ever again that would make them beaucoup bucks and drive ratings and potentially buyrates way up.
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02-06-2017, 08:56 AM | #692 |
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What buyrates? WWE isn't on PPV anymore. They abandoned that business because they couldn't draw like the UFC or big boxing events. Would ratings really go up? Maybe the spectacle of a guy "coming back from the dead" since Bryan's career was buried, but Bryan isn't exactly Rock or Austin.
If he were cleared, why wouldn't he have been in the Royal Rumble? Why wouldn't you drive up ratings and buyrates by having him win the 2017 Royal Rumble and build to that match with his brother-in-law for WrestleMania's main event? No, of course if Bryan is returning he's going to be wrestling in the mid-card with Miz. It. Makes. No. Sense. Bryan's main event look -- the scrappy bearded guy -- has also been traded in for a new clean-cut Bryan appearance. If he were growing out his hand and beard, maybe the average bloke would think "He's getting ready for something." But he's not. He's still presented like civilian Bryan. Regardless of whether Bryan can or cannot get independent doctors to clear him, if something goes wrong after they reverse themselves, holy shit would the backlash be huge. He also retired due to concussions. We are nowhere near close enough to being able to navigate that volatile subject and clear dudes who weren't previously cleared. It's not like he has a broken bone that can get better. He has had brain injuries that we don't fully understand. For the WWE to say "Hey, we're going to change our stance of this" invites so much negative attention, it might actually hurt business. You're more likely to see wrestlers that have had a history of concussions, like Dolph Ziggler, being asked to step into different roles than Bryan being asked to come back. Daniel. Bryan. Will. Never. Wrestle. For. The. WWE. Again. UNLESS they find a way to totally regenerate the brain and completely negate any potential side-effects of concussions. They probably have a better chance of rebuilding Edge's neck. You MAY get a random segment one day where Bryan is being punked out by a heel and he gets them in a LeBell Lock and a referee rings the bell and they call it a "match." See the way The Rock "wrestled" Erick Rowan at WrestleMania last year. It's possible that The Miz could do that to Bryan at WrestleMania this year as a nugget to people. But do not expect any real work from Bryan. Ever. |
02-06-2017, 08:59 AM | #693 |
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I was thinking today -- if Triple H vs. Seth Rollins is the go ahead (and it seems like this is inevitable, sadly) and you need something for Samoa Joe to do -- what are the chances they do that Shawn Michaels match? Once HBK said he'd wrestle Joe if it were anyone, maybe Triple H called him up and said "Hey dude...". There's nothing for Joe past Rollins right now, and that leaves him in the dark for Mania.
Doesn't seem realistic and sounds really random -- but Joe's gotta do something. Probably Battle Royal, right? |
02-06-2017, 09:53 AM | #694 | |
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02-06-2017, 12:13 PM | #695 |
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As much as I want the match to be Orton vs Wyatt I really want them to stay together longer.
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02-07-2017, 08:15 PM | #696 | |
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Update in regards to the rumored Cena/Nikki vs Miz/Maryse match at Mania:
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02-07-2017, 09:41 PM | #697 |
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I'm digging Orton and Wyatt together. It gives Orton this freshness he just doesn't have on his own. You can babyface them together down the line. I really do think the Triple Threat between Cena, Orton and Styles and a singles match between Bray and Harper is the way to go. If I could change anything about the tentative Mania card, it would be that.
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02-07-2017, 09:50 PM | #698 |
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If you do Orton vs. Wyatt and Owens vs. Jericho, you're basically running the same storyline twice. Something about it just seems odd. Save the blow-off between Orton and Wyatt for a later date.
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02-08-2017, 01:00 PM | #699 | |
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02-08-2017, 07:08 PM | #700 |
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I'd like it to be straight on-one-on for the big belt too, but of all the possible scenarios, it seems like the "biggest" and best thing they can put forward.
Wyatt/Harper is a tough one, and I've gone back and forth as to who I'd prefer to win. I feel like Harper would need to go over if fans are going to believe in him as a babyface. I also have this general belief that if you turn a performer and put them against an old ally, then the person who has turned should go over, in order to justify the change of disposition. That's not hard and set, but in most circumstances it would make the most sense. The nagging problem is Bray Wyatt's win-loss record at Mania. I'd put that in the back of my head for a little while, simply because if you book to that record, you miss opportunities to make certain talent. Wyatt is heading into that match on higher ground. Jeff Hardy NEVER won at a WrestleMania. It's more important that Wyatt respond to the loss than he just never suffer it in the first place. You could have Erick Rowan saunter out and segue into Harper vs. Rowan, but there's no guarantee that will be a good program, and it's downgrading Harper and just spinning your wheels with Bray. I do think the payoff to the story with Harper hitting Sister Abigail on Bray. Just go with that, then have Bray blame Randy for the failure of The Family lately. Orton goes after the IC Title, he also puts over Harper (go strong with him) and then Bray is furious and Orton RKO's Wyatt and they move into their regularly scheduled program. |
02-08-2017, 08:50 PM | #701 |
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I haven't fleshed out this idea too much in my head, but instead of doing Money in the Bank as its own PPV in this split-branded era, I'd rather see them bring it back for WrestleMania to knight a guy on their biggest show. At least trial it as a once off.
It does seem that Jericho vs. Owens one-on-one is the way they are going, but it still leaves quite a few guys without programs, and there are just so many singles matches on this card. Sami Zayn, Cesaro and Sheamus from RAW; Dolph Ziggler, Kane and Dean Ambrose from SmackDown. Four former winners; four former World Champions; two hungry young competitors. I dunno. Fuck. |
02-08-2017, 09:14 PM | #702 |
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As for the SmackDown Women's Title, Lance Storm had an interesting suspicion that the double contract signing will lead to shenanigans that prevent a title change at Elimination Chamber (Naomi signed the wrong contract which means her title win isn't valid). This could be used to vacate the SmackDown Women's Title and do a tournament heading into WrestleMania, where the final two girls will compete in the finals to crown the SmackDown Women's Champion. Tournaments a thing again these days, and it narrows the stories down so you don't have two clusterfuck women's matches.
The girls invited to participate: * Alexa Bliss * Becky Lynch * Beth Phoenix * Eva Marie * Mickie James * Naomi * Natalya * Nikki Bella In the first round, Becky makes Alexa submit to the Dis-Arm-Her. Eva Marie doesn't show up for her first match, selling that she is scared of Beth Phoenix, and Beth advances via forfeit. Mickie James beats Naomi and then Nikki pins Nattie. This leads to the semi-finals on the Kickoff show. Becky manages to roll-up Beth out of a Glam Slam and advances to the finals. Nattie helps Mickie best Nikki to keep their heat and Mickie, who beats Becky at Elimination Chamber, is now the favorite to walk away with the SmackDown Women's Title. Of course, Becky wins and gets to hold the belt high. Mickie James swallows her pride and shakes Mickie's hand. Alexa starts mocking Mickie and Mickie turns babyface by starting a brawl with her. Nattie attacks Becky from behind claiming she wants the belt, but Nikki makes her way out, and things turn into a crazy brawl to give all the girls some spots on the main show. Finally, Asuka comes in and kicks the crap out of all of them and she and Becky stand tall and face-to-face to end the segment. |
02-08-2017, 09:15 PM | #703 |
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While I do think Kota Ibushi would still be the bigger deal, they have a good thing with Akira Tozawa right now. I think he'd make a great challenger for Neville at WrestleMania.
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02-09-2017, 01:09 AM | #704 |
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Rumor going around the net involves Neville vs Austin Aires as a possible match for the Cruiser title at Mania. Aires recently got medically cleared from the eye injury suffered months ago.
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02-09-2017, 08:17 AM | #705 |
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Oh god, heel vs. heel? Babyface Aries? I'll skip on both, thanks.
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02-09-2017, 08:18 AM | #706 |
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I'd be fine with Ibushi challenging Neville in the "big match" and Aries facing Akira Tozawa on the Kickoff show or something. Or some sort of giant tag with Aries leading a heel team against some babyfaces. I haven't really cared about Aries since he showed up in WWE though.
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02-09-2017, 02:35 PM | #707 |
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They're not gonna put Ibushi on the Mania card.
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02-09-2017, 03:07 PM | #708 |
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The 'net really starts to catch up once WWE starts shooting angles on TV.
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02-09-2017, 07:49 PM | #709 | |
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Hahaha
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02-09-2017, 09:46 PM | #712 |
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It's a little unlikely, especially with Tozawa impressing out the gate and Metalik coming in. I doubt they'd let Ibushi jump ahead of them. That being said, he is the best choice and if Tozawa and Metalik cool like everything else, I can see Vince saying "fuck it."
More chance of it happening than Daniel Bryan vs. The Miz. |
02-10-2017, 02:58 AM | #713 |
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Saw both shows involving the Cruisers and the only thing Aires did of note was announce a Fatal 5-way match. Then quickly failed at the rest of the interview because a bunch of other guys decided they wanted their own talkie segment.
Even just rewatched the stuff from RAW to give you the benefit of the doubt and once again, no the WWE didn't set or tease anything in place in regards to a potential Aires-Neville match at Mania. |
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He's been interviewing the cruisers post match to set up an interview with Neville getting physical and leading to a match so it doesn't look completely set up.
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Thing is, those are only assumptions on what might happen and not what Cynick implied the WWE already made it obvious those two are wrestling next for the title. He'd argue that was always the plan with the interviews when in reality the WWE did them to give Aires more screen time while he recovered. To be really specific on what the rumor was, its just Aires is getting a future shot at the Cruiser title since he finally got cleared to return. The stuff about Mania and Neville is just speculation since Mania is the next big event after Fastlane and Neville because he's the current champ. WWE could end up doing neither and save Aires for the next Cruiser champ or as the first big post-Mania feud for the belt. |
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02-10-2017, 10:56 AM | #717 |
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I love Aries, but have zero interest in seeing him as a face. So much better as a heel. Unfortunately, he has to stay away front he championship until Neville loses it, which I don;t see or want to see happen for quite a while....
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02-10-2017, 12:46 PM | #718 |
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Let's give this another go. Trying for a "realistic" card, listing matches one brand at a time:
WWE Universal Championship Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg (C) Roman Reigns vs. The Undertaker Triple H vs. Seth Rollins WWE United States Championship Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jericho (C) Raw Women's Championship Bayley vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte (C) Raw Tag Team Championships Enzo Amore and Big Cass vs. Sheamus and Cesaro vs. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson (C) Big Show vs. Shaquille O'Neal For the most part, the Raw stuff all seems likely except for maybe the Tag Title match, the only thing stopping me from making this a fatal four way with New Day included is the fact that I already have a four way on a card loaded with multi-man matches. WWE World Championship Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt (C) John Cena and Nikki Bella vs. The Miz and Maryse AJ Styles vs. Shane McMahon SmackDown Women's Championship - Lumberjill Match Becky Lynch vs. Alexa Bliss (C) WWE Intercontinental AND SmackDown Tag Team Championships Baron Corbin and The Usos vs. Dean Ambrose and American Alpha (C) Seems a bit sloppy to have two titles contested in a six man tag but I think they'll actually try to get every belt on the show and it's already a 14 match show. WWE Cruiserweight Championship Ladder Match Akira Tozawa vs. Austin Aries vs. The Brian Kendrick vs. Gran Metalik vs. Rich Swann vs. TJ Perkins vs. Neville (C) 205 Live gets the token clusterfuck ladder match. It features the four men who have held the title, plus Tozawa, Metalik, and Aries as the "wild card" entrants. It also frees up SmackDown guys for the battle royal. 42-Man Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal - Winner Gets a World Title Shot Big E, Bo Dallas, Braun Strowman, Curtis Axel, Epico, Finn Balor, Goldust, Jinder Mahal, Kofi Kingston, Mark Henry, Primo, R-Truth, Rusev, Sami Zayn, Samoa Joe, Sin Cara, Titus O'Neil, Xavier Woods, Aiden English, Apollo Crews, Curt Hawkins, Dolph Ziggler, Fandango, Heath Slater, Jack Swagger, James Ellsworth, Kalisto, Konnor, Luke Harper, Mojo Rawley, Rhyno, Simon Gotch, Tyler Breeze, Viktor, Ariya Daivari, Cedric Alexander, Drew Gulak, Jack Gallagher, Lince Dorado, Mustafa Ali, Noam Dar, and Tony Nese The title shot is added to raise intrigue. This is promoted as the biggest battle royal in WWE history, hence it ends up with 42 participants breaking the record they set in that 2011 SmackDown battle royal. I'd imagine New Day get some mic time before it starts, and I'd envision Finn Balor as a mystery entrant. Balor and Joe wind up taking each other out of the match to set up an eventual feud. Either Braun or Zayn win it, depending on who they want facing Brock next. |
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