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Old 08-30-2023, 04:15 PM   #1
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Tony Khan terminates CM Punk's AEW contract








I figured it would be nice to consolidate the discussion related to CM Punk in one thread.

I had a few questions regarding the incident at ALL IN. Did Jack Perry get permission to use "real glass" during his zero hour title defense? If so, is it Punk's place to intervene as a veteran (not disregarding his concern for Perry's health)? Isn't it hypocritical that Punk would get upset at Perry for his comment considering his ascension in WWE relied heavily on snarky comments?



Collision was suppose to be a drama free environment, yeah? Is he setting a good example as the locker room leader by taking shots at the Bucks and Page when he's not involved in a program with them?

P. S. What is this guy's fascination with being a locker room leader? It reminds me of when Booker threw trash on the floor to make a point.

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On an episode of Talk Is Jericho, Cody Rhodes and Chris Jericho told the story of CM Punk declaring himself the "locker room leader" in WWE. As they tell it, Punk stood up in front of the locker room and told the boys to start picking up their trash. Booker didn't appreciate Punk declaring himself the locker room leader and decided to throw his trash on the floor to prove a point.


Do you think Punk would push around his weight if he were in a locker room with guys like Bob Holly, Booker, Taker and others? Do you think Punk would've behaved similarly if Powerhouse Hobbs or Mox would've defied him?

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Old 08-30-2023, 04:20 PM   #2
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I think CM Punk is the greatest wrestler of the modern post attitude generation and at this point he can say and do whatever he wants without any critics because he earned it by being that good.
It is a point at which a person becomes that damn good at something that they should do whatever they want.
I think Punk could have been MUCH bigger than he was in the WWE if the creative team booked objectively, the man could have been the face of the company for a decade.
Being a leader dont mean you sit on your hands with your mouth shut, Punk calls things out how he sees them and younger wrestlers should sit down and listen.
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Old 08-30-2023, 04:55 PM   #4
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When the antivaxxers think Punk is the greatest it's safe to assume he's the drizzling shits.
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CM Punk is a good on the mic, but so what. There are plenty of guys good on the mic who arent bitter fragile old dickheads trying to start fights with their coworkers.

If he was as good as he thinks he is, maybe people would be more inclined to take his advice.
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If he was as good as he thinks he is every living creature in the Universe would recognize him as the greatest athlete of all time.
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Apparently Punk might actually have been involved in three separate backstage incidents at AEW's All In show.

According to PWTorch's Wade Keller, the argument Punk had with Khan where he threatened to quit AEW did not happen after the Jack Perry backstage incident but instead before it.

The trigger to it was Perry's comments to the camera about his glass spot during his match with HOOK that enraged Punk enough that he stormed into the room that Khan was in and started yelling at him over it.

Based on those spoken to, Keller reported that the working relationship between Punk and Khan might be getting to the point where it is beyond repair.

This would explain why AEW quickly went to Punk's lawyer to inform him of Punk's suspension and them also quickly contacting Warner Bros over what Punk did and why he got pulled from the plans for this Sunday's All Out show. WBD did not have any issue with it after they got told which could be a sign that even WBD has gotten tired of Punk after being all in on him in AEW and his biggest supporter after Khan.

In regards to the dumb post made by someone in the wrestling forum over the claim that WBD would pull their TV deal for Collision if Punk leaves. Not only is that not likely at all, Punk was only responsible for Collision being a two hour show. WBD & AEW had already been talking way beforehand of a second tv show for AEW and on Saturdays but as a one hour show.
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Imagine a world where after Brawl Out, Tony has all the parties involved come sit down together with a mediator, hash out what happened, tells the parties "Don't do this shit again, or else you will all be suspended indefinitely without pay and possibly fired for the incident at hand"
Splaya makes a decent point.
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Splaya makes a decent point.
If TK had a spine or had actually managed like his livelihood depended on it, he might have done something like this.

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Remember when WWE released a video focusing on CM Punk's buttocks? (minus the music)

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If TK had a spine or had actually managed like his livelihood depended on it, he might have done something like this.

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First of all, we’ve already got a thread for this. Fuck GD and their attention seeking ways.

Smeat reports bullshit without any critical thinking applied.

I’m pro-vax, pro-science — fuck The Elite and go Punk.

Young talent does want to listen to Punk. Look at Collision. Don’t believe the Elite/Meltzer myths.

Punk’s the only difference-maker in that company and he’s constantly fucked with. I don’t know how he puts up with it.
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First of all, we’ve already got a thread for this. Fuck GD and their attention seeking ways.

Smeat reports bullshit without any critical thinking applied.

I’m pro-vax, pro-science — fuck The Elite and go Punk.

Young talent does want to listen to Punk. Look at Collision. Don’t believe the Elite/Meltzer myths.

Punk’s the only difference-maker in that company and he’s constantly fucked with. I don’t know how he puts up with it.
Would the Wembley show be possible without Punk?
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So apparently Punk saw this and that was what got him yelling at Tiny:



Punk felt this was bullshit after his travel issues snub. "Why did I have to ride a fucking train but you got a limo for him?" was his reaction.
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So apparently Punk saw this and that was what got him yelling at Tiny:



Punk felt this was bullshit after his travel issues snub. "Why did I have to ride a fucking train but you got a limo for him?" was his reaction.
Holy shit, that’s so bush league.

From Jack Perry using Beethoven and having zero presence, to Hook being white bread. Lol at JR burying The Elite too.
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AEW won’t improve without CM Punk. He is tightly wound and far too sensitive, but there is overwhelming evidence of terrible management and an extremely immature and cocky lockerroom. Like, who even is Jack Perry? Everyone is at it now after The Elite made it ok to not have any respect for veterans or want to learn anything at all about being a performer.

They will be stuck doing their meaningless super kick, no sell-fest long after the likes of Regal and Punk have been chased off. The company will not grow as it caters to a niche who consider whatever it is they do as professional wrestling. There is no control and no effort to make people better.

As a side, I get Powerhouse Hobbs, but why would anyone be afraid of Moxley? Lol
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Y’all show some respect for one of the anointed Four Pillars of Professional Wrestling. He got that title because…well, it’s not his ring work or his promos. He’s going to be good one of these days, I swear.
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Look, the hell with Jack Perry and the Elite. But let's not sit here and say without Punk AEW will never grow. They have had Punk for 2 years, and they have not grown. They have less viewers today than they had before Punk. They sell less tickets in North America than they did before they had Punk. The only thing Punk has helped them grow is their public drama.

All of that aside, the only real issue preventing any growth is the same issue they have always had, they do not have a boss, they have a money mark. What does it take to get fired from.AEW? Seriously, as long as you do not get accused of sexual assault (it is ok to talk about wanting to do it though), or you don't be a Spanish announcer with a hot mic being racist on the show, you are pretty much free to do whatever you want in AEW without losing your job. At worse, you will just get to sit home getting paid.
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Imagine how much worse they would be doing without Punk. He’s also one of the few guys breathing any sense into anything. If they lose him, it’s way more Elite shenanigans. You’ll be getting the glass on Collision.
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Everyone here knows that's who I was talking about. Everyone except for one person. More proof that smooth brains flock to Punks defense.
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CM Punk reunited with his idol / locker room leader, John Bradshaw Layfield.
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Everyone here knows that's who I was talking about. Everyone except for one person. More proof that smooth brains flock to Punks defense.
You’re a muppet. The point is that you can’t extrapolate that to be a generalization. Especially when The Elite camp has pieces of shit like Chris Jericho and The Young Bucks in it. Check the glass house you’re in, buddy.
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Just because a bunch of assholes are assholes, that does not make a bitter asshole the asshole savior.
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Noid knew who you were talking about. He didn’t say otherwise. You just missed the point he was making.
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Noid knew who you were talking about. He didn’t say otherwise. You just missed the point he was making.
I didn't miss the point. I intentionally made that remark knowing Noid would take the bait.

Ironically, you're kind of proving the point of my post.
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Like, did you see Noid get defensive and puff his chest up at a post he knows was tongue-in-cheek and directly specifically at thekrow? Did anyone else point out they are pro-science and pro-vax? Or did everyone else know that post wasn't about them and was clearly just meant to shit talk a specific person?
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Does anyone here even think that I seriously meant all Punk marks are idiots? Anyone at all? Show of hands so I know who to laugh at.
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Did you think my reply was completely serious? You just punched yourself in the nuts to…show me, I guess?
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