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Old 09-04-2021, 11:48 AM   #2481
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I don't get it. Haven't watched NJPW for a long time going now but their roster is quite thin and full of rematches every show I read about. 3 "mega" shows in one week sounds like overkill without a lot of outside talent coming in. I wish them well but truly I've just got no interest in NJPW anymore.
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They better get their covid situation under control by then.
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Old 09-04-2021, 11:53 AM   #2483
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Yeah they haven't had a good roster shake up in quite some time.
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I don't get it. Haven't watched NJPW for a long time going now but their roster is quite thin and full of rematches every show I read about. 3 "mega" shows in one week sounds like overkill without a lot of outside talent coming in. I wish them well but truly I've just got no interest in NJPW anymore.
Its less about their roster being thin and more of it being too rigid with how its broken down for divisions. The pandemic exposed how inflexible it is once they started losing a bunch of people due to COVID and travel issues. That in turn screwed up Gedo's long-term style booking mentality and him rushing big pushes that mostly didn't pan out the way he wanted (ex. EVIL, Will Ospreay) or rushing his plans for the year that led to very deflated results (ex. Naito's double title reign, Ibushi's merged title reign).

Like they should have merged their tag divisions during this pandemic even if only for the short term and that would have solved issues people have had with it over the years. Mostly about the lack of star power it has and being spread too thinly over 2 divisions. WWE has the exact same problem with their main roster tag divisions over the years.
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Old 09-05-2021, 07:19 AM   #2485
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Your G1 31 Blocks.

A Block:

Kota Ibushi
Tetsuya Naito
Shingo Takagi
Zack Sabre Jr.
Toru Yano
Tomohiro Ishii
Yujiro Takahashi
Tanga Loa
KENTA
Great-O-Khan

B Block:

SANADA
Taichi
YOSHI-HASHI
Hirooki Goto
Jeff Cobb
EVIL
Tama Tonga
Chase Owens
Kazuchika Okada
Hiroshi Tanahashi

So along with the usual suspects, Chase Owens, G.o.D., and Khan got brought in to round it out.
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Old 09-05-2021, 11:35 AM   #2486
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Awful. Should have struck a deal with Noah or ajpw instead of throwing a bunch of midcarders in there.
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Apparently NJPW's recent creative woes and issues isn't all Gedo's fault and instead Dick Togo shares a lot of the blame as well since he's been gaining a lot of influence backstage when it comes to creative ideas and plans according to Voices of Wrestling.

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The creation of the new "House Of Torture" sub-unit (EVIL, SHO, Yujiro Takahashi, Dick Togo) represents the latest example of the growing Dick Togo influence in New Japan.

The idea behind the unit (which was pitched by Togo) is to continue EVIL's long term push as a top star by surrounding him with an entourage, which would lead to an eventual split from Bullet Club and subsequent feud with Jay White (who would presumably go babyface). The obvious comparison point would be The Elite's internal war with the Tongan led Bullet Club a few years ago. For now, House Of Torture will team with other Bullet Club members. House Of Torture will have a heavy presence on the G1 Climax tour, with the goal of establishing the sub-unit as a "constant presence" for EVIL's matches.

HoT members have been directed to focus on character work, storytelling, and "heat". This will be a full-on heel cheating unit, with heavy emphasis on outside interference, in the same vein as EVIL's singles bout.

The Roppongi 3K split was debated internally. Gedo was initially opposed, citing among other issues, merchandise sales. Togo was in favor, as were SHO & YOH themselves, who are eager to work singles and had been pushing for a split for a long while. Once the decision was made, Togo pitched SHO for House Of Torture and was responsible for the booking of the turn angle and the layout of the singles match at Wrestle Grand Slam. SHO's matches moving forward will feature layouts similar to EVIL bouts, with a heavy emphasis on "heat". SHO is said to not be completely sold on his new character directives and unit alignment, but is happy with the opportunity for a singles push.

Togo is not winning all of his battles. Togo pitched a short term EVIL title reign, with EVIL defeating Shingo Takagi for the IWGP World title at Wrestle Grand Slam and then losing it back quickly, in order to establish HoT as an immediate main event force, but the idea was shot down by Gedo, who feels the title needs a long, stable reign after all of the quick changes earlier in the year. In addition, Shingo continues to butt heads with Togo on match layouts. Shingo was not happy with many of the ideas for his match vs EVIL at New Japan Cup. Shingo had similar issues with today's match, but perhaps due to having more pull as champion, was able to veto some of the spots.

Regarding the G1 lineups, nothing should've come as much of a surprise for those following the situation. The last remaining puzzle piece was Aaron Henare. There had been some hope Henare would be ready in time, but it was never considered likely and plans were made at least a month ago to proceed with the idea that he wouldn't be available. Using non-NJPW outside talent to fill out the field was fan fueled speculation and never something we heard discussed internally to any serious degree.
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The only thing I got out of all that was that Gedo wants to keep the belt on Shingo for a while. Which I'm cool with.

Everything else just sounds like garbage.

I might just tune into the G1 and probably opt-out of NJPW World for a little while until things stabilize/improve.
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Will Ospreay currently teasing Buddy Murphy will be making his debut soon for NJPW and as the newest member of Ospreay's United Empire stable
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Buddy Murphy was just a Kenny Omega premier skin, so while I think he’s boring in the ring, New Japan will probably get more out of him than anybody. Hope they call him Matt Silva. Buddy Murphy was a terrible name.
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at the result of the first G1 Climax tournament match.

SPOILER: show
Yujiro Takahashi beat Kota Ibushi in a shock upset.

Match itself was really good and maybe Yujiro's best G1 match in a long while.

Also Yujiro brought the Bunny with him tonight and she's sticking around for the whole G1 tournament.
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Naito vs. Sabre Jr. was awesome and almost bit on it hitting a time limit draw with the way it went on.

Only downer was Naito might have suffered a legit serious knee injury during it.

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Sabre Jr. hit a vicious looking double stomp square on Naito's knee and leg that looked legit painful based on Naito's reaction afterwards and him struggling to finish the match.
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Either Takagi owes Ishii money or both guys just said eff it and are trying to go for the stiffest hitting match in wrestling history.

Ishii basically beating the shit out of Takagi during their match so far.
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Think I need a smoke after that magnificent hoss war Ishii and Takagi had tonight.

Legit might have been a harder hitting stiff slugfest than WALTER vs. Dragunov was at NXT TakeOver 36 last month.
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I'll have to try and find Ishii & Takagi, thanks.

Was coming here to post about NJPW in the US. Seems like a complete flop right now. The attendance for the upcoming shows is going to be tragically bad. Crazy how the scene changed for NJPW without Kenny and The Bucks in the US.

I think if AEW really wanted to help out they'd be loaning more stars to the NJPW US Tour. It's really tough going without some big names. I know they have a lot of old guard Japanese guys in for the tour but Omega and The Bucks would probably make a big difference. At least be able to get the attendances from 200-400 to over a thousand perhaps.

The fucking HEAT of that NJPW show in California when Omega/Ibushi faced The Young Bucks. What a great show that was. It felt like a true rebirth for NJPW with possibilities of real major shows in the US. And of course MSG too. I was there. Didn't really feel like NJPW because of the huge ROH influence on the show.
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Oh and if Buddy Murphy joins NJPW that would be fantastic and the best possibly company for him. He's 100% an Omega influenced wrestler and if he can find and show an original character I think he could be a big hit for NJPW, particularly in Japan as opposed to the US tours.
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Shingo/Ishii match of the year every year
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People shitting on this G1 before it happened when it looked great are going to end up eating their words. Not every match needs to be Shingo/Ishii so that Shingo/Ishii stands out. And you still get Shingo/Ishii.
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NJPW first two days of the G1 tournament usually being the strongest quality-wise is nothing new.

That's not what people have big issues with and instead its the field in general since its the weakest in years which means the show lineups for the rest of the tournament are going to be weaker than what you would traditionally expect for a G1, especially this year's B Block.
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NJPW first two days of the G1 tournament usually being the strongest quality-wise is nothing new.

That's not what people have big issues with and instead its the field in general since its the weakest in years which means the show lineups for the rest of the tournament are going to be weaker than what you would traditionally expect for a G1, especially this year's B Block.
It’s going to be fine. You ignored my actual point and just talked through it with the same argument. The blocks are fine. You’re going to get great matches. Stop being a baby.
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People were shitting on the G1 before it happened because the field is a lot weaker this year than what NJPW usually trouts out, especially B Block.

Whatever books you must be reading must be boring as hell or short picture books since you seem to keep coming back to TPWW in record times after all complaining and garbage you've been spewing these past few months about the place and wrestling fans who like things you don't.
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I’ve been here less and less and less. Easy to try and ignore that when it’s more convenient to just say “record time,” which is a blatant lie. I used to visit this board fucking daily, man.

The G1 field being weaker is purely subjective. What is weaker? Too many aces in a fucking tournament is boring and exhausting. You’re going to get great matches out of this G1, if that’s your thing. You’ve already gotten one. Tanahashi and Okada are wrestling again. It’s not doom and gloom because things are going to actually be paced out more reasonably. It can help the overall presentation of things. If every match was Shingo and Ishii, why the fuck do you want to see Shingo and Ishii anymore?
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Old 09-19-2021, 03:46 AM   #2504
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Tanahashi vs. Okada was great.

SPOILER: show
Okada beat Tana.

1st 10 minutes or so was typical Okada big match slow build up style and then it kicked into several gears afterwards.

Also almost went the full 30 minutes in the end.


In terms of comparisons, Night 1 > Night 2 by a lot but Night 2 had a couple really good G1 matches.

If you want more thoughts about Night 2 or the rest of this year's G1, ask TPWW's resident dipshit above since his tastes and thoughts are the only thing that matter these days based on how he's been acting. Everyone else is either babies, sheep, or whatever other garbage he spews these days if its a different opinion than him or they are having too much fun watching wrestling he doesn't like or actually watch.
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Tanahashi vs. Okada was great.

SPOILER: show
Okada beat Tana.

1st 10 minutes or so was typical Okada big match slow build up style and then it kicked into several gears afterwards.

Also almost went the full 30 minutes in the end.


In terms of comparisons, Night 1 > Night 2 by a lot but Night 2 had a couple really good G1 matches.

If you want more thoughts about Night 2 or the rest of this year's G1, ask TPWW's resident dipshit above since his tastes and thoughts are the only thing that matter these days based on how he's been acting. Everyone else is either babies, sheep, or whatever other garbage he spews these days if its a different opinion than him or they are having too much fun watching wrestling he doesn't like or actually watch.
This is just Dave’s take. You can’t actually make a critical thought of you own. You’re actually incapable of it, it’s amazing.

My takes are usually spot-on, people insult the shit out of it for not falling into line with them, then I’m right and people never learn.

Here is the final criticism consensus of the G1 for you to echo later:

“The tournament turned out to be pretty good all things considered. Not as good as other years, but what could be? And there’s Covid. But in the end they had enough good workers in there to have some great matches and make the tournament worthwhile.”

Look forward to hearing it.
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I know I said before that I wasn't going to bother with my thoughts for the rest of this year's G1 tournament because of the dickhead above but HOLY SHIT at the ending of Night 5.

SPOILER: show
Zack Sabre Jr submitted Ibushi to remain undefeated.

He legit has to be going to the Finals now at the very least since NJPW gave him submission wins over 3 of their top guys in a row.

Naito, Shingo, and now Ibushi.
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You gotta build up ZSJ to that Danielson match that is obviously happening.
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Came up with a Wrestle Kingdom card in my head the other day:

* Shingo vs. Okada for the World Title
* Tanahashi vs. Mox for the US Title
* Danielson vs. Suzuki
* Omega vs. Ibushi

Good stuff there for that audience.
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SPOILER: show
Kota Ibushi wins A-Block. Cobb & Okada will be fighting each other for B-Block. Gedo's out of hits damn mind if he's letting Ibushi get the 3-peat. Not ready for another Okada title run.....yet. Maybe they'll pull one over on us and let Cobb win it all.
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Kota Ibushi wins A-Block. Cobb & Okada will be fighting each other for B-Block. Gedo's out of hits damn mind if he's letting Ibushi get the 3-peat. Not ready for another Okada title run.....yet. Maybe they'll pull one over on us and let Cobb win it all.
SPOILER: show
Don’t know if maybe it was supposed to be Naito vs. Okada, but Okada winning the whole thing seems like the story. Ibushi is far from my favorite wrestler, but he makes more sense than KENTA or Zack Sabre, Jr. being in there, doesn’t he?

Got a feeling the Tokyo Dome is going to be Shingo vs. Okada, Tanahashi vs. Moxley, Danielson vs. ZSJ or Suzuki and Omega vs. Ibushi. Something like that.
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Wrestle Kingdom Cards:

Night 1

IWGP World Heavyweight Championship: Shingo Takagi (C) [L.I.J.] vs Kazuchika Okada [CHAOS]

IWGP Jr Heavyweight Championship: El Desperado (C) [Suzuki-gun] vs Hiromu Takahashi [L.I.J.]

IWGP Tag Team Championships: Zack Sabre Jr and Taichi [Suzuki-gun] vs Hirooki Goto and YOSHI-HASHI [CHAOS]

NEVER Openweight: Tomohiro Ishii (C) [CHAOS] vs EVIL [Bullet Club]

Special Singles Match: Katsuyori Shibata [Main Unit] vs X

Tetsuya Naito, SANADA and BUSHI [L.I.J.] vs Jeff Cobb, Will Ospreay and Great O-Khan [United Empire]

Hiroshi Tanahashi, Ryusuke Taguchi and Rocky Romero [Main Unit/CHAOS] vs KENTA, El Phantasmo and Taiji Ishimori [Bullet Club]

YOH [CHAOS] vs SHO [Bullet Club]

King of Pro Wrestling Rumble


Night 2

IWGP World Heavyweight Championship: Takagi or Okada (C) vs Will Ospreay [United Empire]

IWGP US Championship - No DQ: KENTA (C) [Bullet Club] vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi [Main Unit]

Tetsuya Naito [L.I.J.] vs Jeff Cobb [United Empire]

SANADA [L.I.J.] vs Great O-Khan [United Empire]

NEVER 6-Man: EVIL, Yujiro Takahashi and SHO (C) [Bullet Club] vs. YOH, Goto and YOSHI-HASHI [CHAOS]

IWGP Jr Tag Team Championships: Robbie Eagles and Tiger Mask IV (C) [Main Unit/CHAOS] vs Rocky Romero and Ryusuke Taguchi[Main Unit/CHAOS] vs El Phantasmo and Taiji Ishimori [Bullet Club]

King of Pro Wrestling Four Way (the final 4 from the previous night's Rumble)

Stardom Match: Starlight Kid and Mayu Iwatani vs Saya Kamitani and Tam Nakano
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Night 1 looks damn solid. Night 2 looks like train wreck.

Has the night 3 NJPW vs. NOAH card been announced?
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Night 3 has now been announced:
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Disappointed in the amount of tag matches there. Really would have liked to see a couple more singles matches. Keno vs Takagi would have been fantastic. Instead it seems like they're doing the wrestlemania thing of quantity over quality.
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It's about what I was expecting really. Feel like people expecting marquee singles matches were ignoring the realities of the politics.

As it is it is pretty obvious who is eating the pin in most of these.
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Fucking waste of Go Shiozaki.
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KENTA jumps to NOAH for one night only. Him vs. one of NOAH's best would have been a good idea.
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Very good for NJPW to be back on AXS TV again in March. I tried to watch Night 1 of WK but it was so late and it felt like the same show I've seen for the last 7 or so years basically just without any great American talents.

I cannot in any way see NJPW getting as hot as it was in the US previously without The Elite, and at this point that is so not happening.

I feel that Japanese wrestling in general is in a huge rut.
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