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Old 06-29-2020, 01:22 PM   #1
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Cyberpunk 2077
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got any other steampunk themed games to recommend while we wait for this?
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Shadowrun isn't terrible. The SNES and Genesis versions were the best. The one on steam is pretty good too. Shadowrun Returns
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Thankfully I've crushed those already :-), been playing Stardew Valley this summer.
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Deus Ex is another good one.
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Sounds like a game that was scooped up a couple Steam Summer Sales ago, if not, then the current sale will help
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The Division 2 is pretty good right now. Not Cyberpunk, but at times, surreal with what is actually happening in the world right now.


I need to jump back onto 76. Just seems so god damn tedious right now.
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Damn that COVID, because of this crap game was delayed, but I can wait, game is really awesome!
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CRUNCH TIME!

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I think from the start, game journalists have been going about the crunch issue all wrong. Attacking the existence of crunch is silly because literally every job with deadlines has crunch, and they probably always will. Hell, I worked in flooring and often had to work 50 hour work weeks to get jobs done in time.

The problem arises in the working environment. If you are going to make, or even ask people to work beyond 40 hours, you need to create a workplace that people feel comfortable doing that in. Ideally you should strive to create an enviornment that makes people want to work extra hours.

And so the problem with crunch in gaming has never been that it exists, but rather, that a lot of companies create a miserable hellscape at their workplace, that make people want to eat a bullet, rather than be there any longer than they have to.

It IS a slippery slope, and it's not surprising that companies which treat their customers like shit also treat their employees like shit. But until a bunch of CD Project Red employees come out and give detailed accounts of dark ages style work conditions, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're doing everything they can to make the overtime as painless as possible while doing what needs to be done. They've earned that trust.

All that said, dude should never have made that promise. You never know what kind of issues and delays might pop up. But at least he's got the balls to come out and take full responsiblity for it.
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Old 10-02-2020, 11:33 AM   #12
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id love to know what people who villainize crunch do for a living. go ask a lawyer about what crunch is like. its the job; comes with the territory.


the evils of crunch of propagated by YouTubers and children.
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Old 10-07-2020, 04:29 AM   #14
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id love to know what people who villainize crunch do for a living. go ask a lawyer about what crunch is like. its the job; comes with the territory.


the evils of crunch of propagated by YouTubers and children.
That attitude prevailing is kind of the problem, though. It's a similar attitude of how GameStop got away with being a shit company for so long because of how it lures in young, naive nerds who think of it as a dream job, and how more of those "suckers" can be thrown into the ground level grinding wheel of low pay, minimal hours, having lofty numbers goals hanging over their heads, and the perpetual Sword of Damocles above them; that they can be replaced at the expense of the next young, naive nerd. And that's just retail. These people - programmers, testers, and the like - have more specialized skills working on more technical things.

Just because "business is done that way" and possibly done that way forever doesn't mean it should be done that way. And in an industry like games, there's this weird conflation of people voluntarily banding together and putting in all the time and effort neccessary for a great product, and a corporate mandated encampment. Even in other job fields like, say, manufacturing, there's a gulf of difference between offered overtime and mandatory overtime. It's really only after the EA Spouse letter that any of it came to some sort of public thought, but it doesn't mean it was never a horrible way to do business, just not a publicly discussed one.

To simply pass this off as YouTubes (where I assume you mean they're being reactionary for views) and children (who I presume you mean don't know any better) is pretty reductive. On top, how does this make *them* the villain for pointing out bullshit? Again, just because business is done that way doesn't mean it should be. Another conjoining business practice is essentially holding ones career hostage with the same type of logic where people say "if you don't like living wherever you are, just move", as if moving is a free and simple prospect. In this case, quitting the job probably also means you getting a black mark in the industry; being labled as "difficult to work with" or somesuch nonsense, to where nobody wants to hire you for your "reputation"... a reputation born from you not wanting to live out of your office and throw your personal life into upheaval for a few weeks/months unexpectedly because someone above your paygrade deemed it neccessary to do so. I've had a couple jobs like that. Shit sucked. But for me it fortunately wasn't something I had a degree tied to, or in a business where they would talk to other places similar to them and potentially prevent me from doing something similar elsewhere.

What makes this particular story a bit scummier is that CDPR made a show about how they wouldn't/didn't have to crunch for Cyberpunk because they're better than that; that they could just delay the launch instead of shitting on their workers to the adulation and brownie points of the public... and here we are. It makes it seem as if they either went back on their word, or they never intended to keep it in the first place.
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In a perfect world, crunch wouldn't exist. We don't live in a perfect world.

You would fundamentally have to change how the world works, to get rid of crunch in any profession that revolves around deadlines.

Good luck with that.
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work is voluntary. if the needs of the employer dont match match the need of the employee the solution is obvious. this notion of some work utopia is farcical. to achieve great things it requires a great effort. the notion of the contrary is childish.
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case in point im on vacation right now. why? i just worked literally 90 days straight 70-80hrs/w. reached a point of accomplishment and now im resting. work needed to be done. this is fins because i chose this when i took the job and im a man and not a child.
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Oof 90 days straight. Much respect for that. I pulled 12 hr shifts every day for 3-4 weeks once and was ready to burn it all down. Prob had a lot to do with working overnight and having a newborn at home that made it v hard to sleep during the day so I was constantly running on fumes, but still, I was getting ready for arson.
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I've decided that I'ma just buy this on Stadia. I got multiple 4k TVs, play on the go.

F da hate...I'll prob buy it eventually for multiple systems anyways depending on mp. (gta5)
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Still crunching.

CD Projekt Red delays the game again. This time due to shipping issues. 9 consoles across 2 generations is a big task it seems.

New release date is now December 10th, 2020.
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Old 10-27-2020, 02:45 PM   #29
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Keep delaying it until its ready please.
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Old 10-27-2020, 05:56 PM   #30
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If I was excited for this game I would not care if it were delayed, I'm sure it's for good reasons, I imagine the workers are under extreme stress which seems bad
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Old 10-27-2020, 06:02 PM   #31
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I wouldnt have an issue if they delayed it until Spring next year. Gamers need this to be right. It's a big deal. I would hate if they put a unfinished product out.
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Old 10-27-2020, 10:00 PM   #32
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Old 10-28-2020, 11:22 PM   #33
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Yeah, in an era of gaming where companies push out buggy, unfinished, poorly optimized games to meet deadlines, I’m not gonna complain about a company taking the time to make sure that everything is working right.
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:39 AM   #34
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They have been working with the old gen consoles for 6 years, if there is any problem its with the new ones or with that fucking Stadia crap.

have a hard time believing the PC recommended requirements too: i7-4790 + GTX 1060. Wonder if you could get 1080p60 at medium with such a setup. That's nearly the exact cpu I'm running so it would be nice if that really would be enough for high settings though
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Had pto time that I had to burn and I randomly picked the 11th and 14th months ago before they announced the last delay. Looking like a good call.
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Thursday the 10th is going to be hard at work. Going to just look for excuses to leave early and not be able to focus on anything other than going home.

Will only come home to find i forgot to leave it in rest mode and it still needs do be downloaded.
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You change those settings right god damn now Frank.


Change it......
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