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Old 10-02-2019, 10:06 PM   #1
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Even though Ted Turner has no involvement I can imagine Vince is eating his own shirt yelling GODDAMN YOU TED TURNER
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Pretty sweet stable of guys Jericho has assuming it sticks.

Very entertaining show overall and even better, AEW managed to fix all the production issues that plagued their earlier PPVs while managing to feel different enough from WWE's TV style.

Also happy that if AEW's debut show is any indication, its going to easily fill the void left by Lucha Underground for my weekly wrestling watching.
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Good show. Hearing Tony and JR together is weird but great. Like hearing WCW and WWF mixed together.

Flipped over to NXT during a few commercial breaks and thought the AEW show was more appealing. Going to watch NXT fully now.
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Good show. Hearing Tony and JR together is weird but great. Like hearing WCW and WWF mixed together.

Flipped over to NXT during a few commercial breaks and thought the AEW show was more appealing. Going to watch NXT fully now.
Spoiler, NXT was better.
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Spoiler, NXT was better.

No one cares about this anti AEW gimmick you're trying to establish
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No one cares about this anti AEW gimmick you're trying to establish
A.k.a. the truth. NXT was a better show, that's not Anti AEW, nice attempt though.
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So that's the first two hours (and full show) of any wrestling product I've watched since WM and overall it was incredibly more interesting/entertaining than anything I've seen from WWE in years.

Yes, there was a lot of talent I didn't know, and it wasn't all great and had some slow segments/spots, but I'm actually really looking forward to next week's episode. If only to just see where things go from here, and ideally, long term they continue to improve/deliver on what we got tonight, and they develop/flesh out and I learn and invest more into the characters and feuds.

One thing I loved was that they setup so many potential future feuds and matches, and (without having the show be a complete clusterfuck,) each separate story line and feud wasn't treated and didn't feel completely disjointed or unconnected to the others and the overall show.

This show was a great start.
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Lucha Underground killed a lot of my Swagger enthusiasm but he'd definitely work as a big enforcer type for a big stable rather than trying to give him a big push solo.
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Lucha Underground killed a lot of my Swagger enthusiasm but he'd definitely work as a big enforcer type for a big stable rather than trying to give him a big push solo.


Love decently sized heel stables. WWE won't commit to OC/Roode, Ziggler
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Lucha Underground killed a lot of my Swagger enthusiasm but he'd definitely work as a big enforcer type for a big stable rather than trying to give him a big push solo.
Them trying to push him as a dominating beast despite him not really fitting in or clicking with their style of wrestling was pretty bad at first. He only got really enjoyable when he joined the evil supernatural group even if led to nothing because of LU's demise.
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Next week: debut of the Swagger Soaring Eagle Hager Hovering Hawk
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I liked Jack Swagger enough. Always had a lot of potential. It's hard to get excited about him though. Big dude with a hot wife. I'm happy for him getting another shot.
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I wouldn't object to Mike Tenay doing a one off pre ppv show with JR and Tony.
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Yeah, I'll be curious to see if they can keep improving and build off of this.
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Yeah, I'll be curious to see if they can keep improving and build off of this.
I def believe after tonight it's doable. Mind you, they have far less production, writers, etc. than WWE but it's only a weekly 2 hour show.

The Elite aren't booking themselves as unbeatable is already fucking awesome.
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They’ve also got the star power advantage. I just don’t know how much that matters since the existing mainstream audience pool isn’t exactly huge at the moment.
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I noticed how instead of devoting whole additional segments to moving forward a storyline, they instead slotted them into existing segments. This really stuck out with Mox/Omega, but it's also the case for the women's title match where they both (awkwardly) had Britt Baker on commentary and then had Nyla Rose attack Michael Nakazawa and attempt to take out Riho after the match

It lets the show move along much more comfortably without sacrificing giving people a reason to tune in next week.
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The Dark match 8 man tag would have been better than the MJF match. timewise they could have got it in. The MJF match just felt out of place
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:11 PM   #29
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Something that I've noticed on the 2nd viewing is there's long air time where Tony is quiet. I wonder if he's reviewing the notes where he has to go interview between the matches? Hopefully they can utilize Crhis Van Vliet more for that role going forward.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:13 PM   #31
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I'm a little biased. I've always thought Vliet's interviews were top notch.
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Debating whether I should go to the Indy or Chicago show. Indy is a hop skip but I'm sure the Chi Town crowd would make that show funner.
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Compairing AEW to NXT makes AEW seem like bush league. Tacticlaly a smart move from the WWE to put then against one another.
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Compairing AEW to NXT makes AEW seem like bush league. Tacticlaly a smart move from the WWE to put then against one another.
True. From a strictly tactical standpoint, it especially means they don't have the pressure to improve the overall shitty booking and storytelling from RAW or Smackdown except for whatever pressure may come from either FOX or USA themselves. And anytime AEW does better, they can just say "Yeah, but they beat our minor league, so it means nothing" and continue patting themselves on the back... neverminding that NXT is generally their A show, as much as people don't want to admit it.
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As much as I can dig all the gushing about Schiavone in this thread, I can still recall when he was phoning it in the last few years on WCW TV. Calling everything a sidewalk slam and whatnot. Interesting turn from touting him ironically to genuine nostalgic feels.
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1. The last 2 years of WCW sucked
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AEW was like a good 2 hour PPV.
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I thought it was a good show and I typically don't watch anything other than WWE. I don't like how they have a commentator with a mask, that's so silly. I also can't stand big impact moves not being finishers. The first match seemed to have like 5 spots where the match should have ended. I just don't like the reliance on false finishes that these "minor" leagues do.
I do think this was a great start. JR and Shiavoni were great.
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I thought it was a good show and I typically watch anything other than WWE. I don't like how they have a commentator with a mask, that's so silly. I also can't stand big impact moves not being finishers. The first match seemed to have like 5 spots where the match should have ended. I just don't like the reliance on false finishes that these "minor" leagues do.
I do think this was a great start. JR and Shiavoni were great.
You know, I started to make a troll comment about when Lucha Bros came out with suits on that it "took me out of the show"... but I'd be afraid someone would take me seriously. Excalibur's mask does not bother me one bit. The only time someone in a mask bothered me on commentary was Ring of Honor when Steve Corino had started wearing one on for seemingly no reason other than people were supposed to believe that it wasn't Steve Corino. If it were explained, I missed that episode. It seemed like a joke that someone forgot the punchline to or some angle that never played out. Like they were trying to do the Mr. America angle but lost interest in the backswing. Had nothing to do with his ability as a commentator, though, or the couple of minutes of airtime they showed him each week.

I do agree with 8 billion huge spots not being the end of matches, but that's something endemic in wrestling as a whole anymore. I don't like it here, but I also don't like it in WWE, nor NJPW, nor ROH, nor LOLTNA... just everywhere. Especially when you have something like a triple flip canadian destroyer from the top rope to the outside through a flaming table leading to a kickout at two, then that leads to a Three-Handled Moss Covered Gamily Gradunzel, countered into a double-team Doomsday Device... but then the match ends when one guy lands a knee strike because it has a cool name.

*THAT* takes me out of a show more than some guy talking off camera but you know he's wearing a mask...
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Did not watch "live", but just finished watching now.... show was an alright start... nothing overly goofy other than me thinking "lol the minute any casual curious person tuned in and saw Sammy Guevara in a panda hat, they just immediately turned it off"

Otherwise it was good. Nothing too outstanding, but nothing that made me want to kill myself.

Was "PrettyCool" to hear Jim Ross and especially Tony Schiavone again.

Oh, and in Canada they did not go to picture-in-picture for the commercial breaks, but just went to commercial.
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