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Old 07-09-2018, 07:33 AM   #1
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Eh, for a while they didn't really know the product. Messed up names and missed calls on signature moves and such.

I don't really care. A lot of times I'll just listen to the Japanese commentary. Can't understand them but they put a crazy amount of emotion into it. Better than listening to Kevin Kelly anyway.
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:57 PM   #2
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Eh, for a while they didn't really know the product. Messed up names and missed calls on signature moves and such.

I don't really care. A lot of times I'll just listen to the Japanese commentary. Can't understand them but they put a crazy amount of emotion into it. Better than listening to Kevin Kelly anyway.
They STILL don't know who anyone is, what they do, or what's going on with the angles. JR has stated he doesn't care about New Japan numerous times and they have both taken shots at production / talent ON AIR. Absolute zero effort garbage on their part and neither has an interest in improving or at least getting familiar with the product.
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:43 PM   #3
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They STILL don't know who anyone is, what they do, or what's going on with the angles. JR has stated he doesn't care about New Japan numerous times and they have both taken shots at production / talent ON AIR. Absolute zero effort garbage on their part and neither has an interest in improving or at least getting familiar with the product.
Can you find me those quotes? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I do wonder if there is a different perspective to take. I've always heard JR be very complimentary of New Japan. It's not like he needs the work -- I've always imagined him doing it as a labor of love.
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Can you find me those quotes? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I do wonder if there is a different perspective to take. I've always heard JR be very complimentary of New Japan. It's not like he needs the work -- I've always imagined him doing it as a labor of love.
Most of what he has said is buried in his commentary, there was a big backlash against the AXS commentary at last years show. He was calling everyone by the wrong name, he thought Zack Sabre Jr was Ospreay, Bushi was EVIL, didn't know anyone on the undercard to the point where Tama Tonga called him out on Twitter over it. In response, JR put out a statement that he was very sorry he didn't know which Briscoe Brother was which and how is he supposed to know when "I don't live this product". Never mentioned Tama or any or the other guys he called the wrong name repeatedly. On the same show he had also said something along the lines of "Kenny Omega will be a huge star if he ever makes it to WWE".
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Most of what he has said is buried in his commentary, there was a big backlash against the AXS commentary at last years show. He was calling everyone by the wrong name, he thought Zack Sabre Jr was Ospreay, Bushi was EVIL, didn't know anyone on the undercard to the point where Tama Tonga called him out on Twitter over it. In response, JR put out a statement that he was very sorry he didn't know which Briscoe Brother was which and how is he supposed to know when "I don't live this product". Never mentioned Tama or any or the other guys he called the wrong name repeatedly. On the same show he had also said something along the lines of "Kenny Omega will be a huge star if he ever makes it to WWE".
That's the incident I thought it was. JR has always confused names. Used to get Edge & Christian swapped all the time. He's still the best play-by-play announcer in the world. And it's the undercard. Most of them act like they are irrelevant, so why should JR refocus his energies into it? When you're important, JR treats you like you're important. More importantly, when JR treats you like you're important, you're perceived as important. They're just upset they're not getting the rub. JR is far more useful to New Japan than most of the talent talked about. They're replaceable; JR isn't.

If anything, get someone to do the opening card stuff, and then bring JR in to do the stuff that really has something to bite into.
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:41 PM   #6
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Eh, for a while they didn't really know the product. Messed up names and missed calls on signature moves and such.

I don't really care. A lot of times I'll just listen to the Japanese commentary. Can't understand them but they put a crazy amount of emotion into it. Better than listening to Kevin Kelly anyway.
I don't really dislike Kevin Kelly. There's just often a lot of dead air and he tries a bit too hard to be "in on it." It's too self-aware an act to go really to my tastes, but he's far from the worst announcer I've ever heard or anything. It's Callis that really frustrates me.

"If his leg is broken, he won't be able to hit the Superkick."
*About 1 second later Young Buck hits a superkick..*
"Superkiiiiiiiick!"
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