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Old 01-30-2017, 02:02 PM   #561
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Since it appears that Roman's now tied up with Taker leaving him without an opponent, I'm guessing Braun Strowman is the odds on Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal favorite, then.

Hopefully they can a title shot to it as an extra incentive for the GMs to try to motivate people to win the match. Braun/Lesnar or Braun/Goldberg for the title down the line can be fun.
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:06 PM   #562
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Actually, Corbin and Strowman could be touted as the favorites for their respective brands and they'll show Corbin eliminating Strowman a billion times in the build-up.
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:25 PM   #563
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Agh finally I am ready to post my prediction card....

World Championship
Bray Wyatt (c) vs Randy Orton

Universal Championship
Goldberg (c) vs Brock Lesnar

Roman Reigns vs The Undertaker

Samoa Joe vs John Cena

Triple H vs Seth Rollins

AJ Styles vs Shane McMahon

Baron Corbin vs Braun Strowman

US Championship Match
Chris Jericho vs Kevin Owens

Raw Womens Championship
Charlotte vs Nia Jax vs Sasha Banks vs Bailey

20 Man Andre The Giant Battle Royal
Featuring... Big Show, Shaq, Dean Ambrose, The Miz, Rusev, American Alpha, Cesaro, Sheamus, Heath Slater, Rhyno, Dolph Ziggler, Big Cass, Enzo, Kane, The Uso's, Sami Zayn, Titus O'Neal, Tyler Bate

PRE SHOW

Cruiserweight Championship
Neville vs ???

Raw Tag Championship
Gallows and Anderson vs The New Day

Smackdown Womens Championship
Multi Woman Match
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:27 PM   #564
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Probably not a million miles off. I'd try to run a SD Tag Title match though. Not having them on the Rumble card at all won't have helped establish the titles/Alpha.
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also, please tell undertaker to stay backstage.

he should really call it a day already.
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I prefer that to watering the titles down on a weekly basis with midcard guys. Honestly, Brock Lesnar and John Cena as champions make the titles come off as a million times more meaningful heading into WM than AJ Styles and Kevin Owens. Until they can manage to build new stars AND THEN put the title on them instead of acting like just throwing a title on a guy makes him crazy over, that's the way to go.
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Really want the winner of the Andre Battle Royal to get a future title shot.

The trophy is neat, but give the guy some kind of follow-up story.
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I guess this means Owens turns face though to face Jericho. Wouldn't make sense to have it heel vs heel when they could have just given Reigns the title to drop to Lesnar.
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I prefer that to watering the titles down on a weekly basis with midcard guys. Honestly, Brock Lesnar and John Cena as champions make the titles come off as a million times more meaningful heading into WM than AJ Styles and Kevin Owens. Until they can manage to build new stars AND THEN put the title on them instead of acting like just throwing a title on a guy makes him crazy over, that's the way to go.
that's why cena was actually a good champion, best of both worlds - a huge star but always there.
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I don't really mind the title not being on Raw every week either actually. Feels old school. Makes it feel more special. Especially since the current weekly booking only serves to make everything bland.
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I prefer that to watering the titles down on a weekly basis with midcard guys. Honestly, Brock Lesnar and John Cena as champions make the titles come off as a million times more meaningful heading into WM than AJ Styles and Kevin Owens. Until they can manage to build new stars AND THEN put the title on them instead of acting like just throwing a title on a guy makes him crazy over, that's the way to go.
They'll never truly have new "stars" if the spotlight at the biggest show of the year is always on part timers who are ten years past their prime.
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And no doubt if Goldberg is squashing Lesnar twice in a row, KO will also be squashed.
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They'll never truly have new "stars" if the spotlight at the biggest show of the year is always on part timers who are ten years past their prime.
They've gotta build new stars the rest of the year and then have them headline at WrestleMania once they're over. As it stands now, they can't spotlight a bunch of glorified midcarders over massively over main eventers. High profile WrestleMania spots are the same as titles. You don't give them to a guy hoping he gets over. It just looks bad. You put some actual effort into getting them over AND THEN give it to them. WrestleMania main event spots and titles should be used as a coronation when someone gets over. That's how you keep them meaningful.
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Really want the winner of the Andre Battle Royal to get a future title shot.

The trophy is neat, but give the guy some kind of follow-up story.
But then it would just be another Royal Rumble essentially. I'm fine with the trophy and maybe a mid card title shot because most the entrants are mid carders or jobbers.
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And no doubt if Goldberg is squashing Lesnar twice in a row, KO will also be squashed.
Would be dumb if they had it any other way though. Would make Lesnar look even weaker if Owens had a 10-15 minute match with Goldburg.
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I prefer that to watering the titles down on a weekly basis with midcard guys. Honestly, Brock Lesnar and John Cena as champions make the titles come off as a million times more meaningful heading into WM than AJ Styles and Kevin Owens. Until they can manage to build new stars AND THEN put the title on them instead of acting like just throwing a title on a guy makes him crazy over, that's the way to go.
...like they're about to do with Bray Wyatt.
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I guess this means Owens turns face though to face Jericho. Wouldn't make sense to have it heel vs heel when they could have just given Reigns the title to drop to Lesnar.
Jericho is more over/closer to getting a face reaction right now. So you're probably right.
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They've gotta build new stars the rest of the year and then have them headline at WrestleMania once they're over. As it stands now, they can't spotlight a bunch of glorified midcarders over massively over main eventers. High profile WrestleMania spots are the same as titles. You don't give them to a guy hoping he gets over. It just looks bad. You put some actual effort into getting them over AND THEN give it to them. WrestleMania main event spots and titles should be used as a coronation when someone gets over. That's how you keep them meaningful.
Trouble is they're not finding the balance. Styles is the closest thing they've got to an over Main Event level talent on SDL and he'll likely be feuding with his boss, a non-wrestler instead of having a barn stormer of a match with a Cena or Orton.
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Yeah I don't see what they are thinking with the Shane/AJ match. Yeah AJ has had problems with somethings like the poster and John Cena but Shane said Steph and Mic made the poster and Cena has been referenced as DB brother in law. Really no heat between them and what ever they come up with would probably feel weak. Ambrose has more heat with Shane than Styles really does but the perfect opponent for Shane is the Miz.
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wait, what the fuck?

shane vs aj?

makes just a very tiny bit more sense than shane vs taker
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Assuming they go in the Shane v Styles direction, my assumption is it's a way to keep AJ in a high profile program coming off losing the title.

Dean vs AJ was the Fall program, so not sure about randomly bringing it back for Mania. I like the idea of Mania being a blow-off, so if they do Miz vs Ambrose, I think that makes sense.
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But then it would just be another Royal Rumble essentially. I'm fine with the trophy and maybe a mid card title shot because most the entrants are mid carders or jobbers.
It being for an IC/US title shot would be great for the competitors and the titles. Makes the match feel bigger since it was earned, and gives the battle royal winner something to do for at least the immediate future.
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I think they gotta do something big with Corbin at Mania. I would like to see him walk out with the IC title. Ideally just one on one with Ambrose, although it would suck for Miz to but have a program. So maybe make it a three way.
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I still think a multi-man Intercontinental Title Ladder Match is in play. Yeah it's been done the last two years but I could see Bryan wanting to keep the tradition alive especially since it was his last "WrestleMania moment".

Dean Ambrose, The Miz, Baron Corbin, Dolph Ziggler, and Luke Harper all feel like strong candidates to be in the match. Maybe Kalisto is in there too since he'll help you fill some of the required crazy spots they have in every ladder match.

Not sure if they'd make it exact 7 guys for the third year in a row. If they do and Tye Dillinger is actually with the main roster, he'd be a good choice for that last spot.

Failing that I could actually see Mojo Rawley getting the nod for the last spot over a guy like Apollo Crews. I think they see potential in Mojo and with his tag team partner being the winner of last year's ladder match I can see why they'd work him getting into this year's into the story.
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If Reigns goes for Taker, Braun needs something bigger than the battle royal. He easily looked the most impressive in the Rumble and will be one of the guys featured after Mania.

What about Stephanie getting pissed at Smackdown winning streak and challenging Shane to put up a wrestler from Smackdown to go against someone from Raw at Mania.

Maybe do Strowman vs Ambrose.
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Yeah I Corbin would be better. Corbin vs Strowman with bragging rights or something like first pick in the upcoming draft on the line. Corbin eliminated Braun so it could happen.
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I think they gotta do something big with Corbin at Mania. I would like to see him walk out with the IC title. Ideally just one on one with Ambrose, although it would suck for Miz to but have a program. So maybe make it a three way.
Nah, Miz and Shane is were the money is at with Bryan not being able to compete. Would really suck to not have one of the best storys of the year not have a payoff at Mania. Bryan could even be special guest referee.
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Nah, Miz and Shane is were the money is at with Bryan not being able to compete. Would really suck to not have one of the best storys of the year not have a payoff at Mania. Bryan could even be special guest referee.
I would be fine with that for Miz, but would want to see Styles in something more high profile than Ambrose.
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Same here, keep him attached to Cena, they pull off great matches and work well together on the mic. Throw in Samoa Joe and you got a high profile match at Wrestlemania.
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Pretty much needed for their feud especially if its going to be the real main event of Mania. Right now there is no logical reason why Goldberg would want to fight Lesnar again and WWE already blew their load with the back-to-back domination Goldberg had against Lesnar.

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Pretty much needed for their feud especially if its going to be the real main event of Mania. Right now there is no logical reason why Goldberg would want to fight Lesnar again and WWE already blew their load with the back-to-back domination Goldberg had against Lesnar.

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Dunno. If I could get paid a hefty payday to squash a guy in seconds I think I would. The premise could always be Lesnar pushing for another match.
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So Joe's on Raw. What now for Cena?
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... Orton V Cena for the belt is still a possibility.
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