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Old 10-15-2012, 11:14 PM   #241
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Ryback main eventing in Atlanta.

Oh dear.
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3 hour show. They hoped we'd forget by the end of it.
Heyman refused the match outright.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:15 PM   #243
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Ryback dominates Punk the whole match Lesnar comes out and saves Punk. Leading to a survivor series matchup between them.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:16 PM   #244
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To make Punk suffer I guess
He basically just admitted that he isn't capable of "kicking Punk's ass" so he gave up his title shot. lol
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:17 PM   #245
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I give it a day at least before *BREAKING NEWS : GOLDBERG MIGHT BE AT ATLANTA*





No, he won't.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:18 PM   #246
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Heyman refused the match outright.
Did he? He said something like "That's not what I came in here for!" and then Vince told him to get out of his office. They definitely made it sound like the match was on. lol
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Thoughts on the night.

Loved the Sheamus/Barrett Match.
Kane's after match interview was histarical.
Shocked didn't make it a 3 way with both Ryback and Cena involved so Cena gets pinned and Ryback doesn't loose steam. Don't see them putting title on him yet but who knows.
3MB has so much Entertaining potential.
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Ryback dominates Punk the whole match Lesnar comes out and saves Punk. Leading to a survivor series matchup between them.
They need to stretch it out to WrestleMania but yeah, this needs to happen.

Ryback can't lose though. They need to end it in a non-finish somehow. I know a Hell in a Cell match ending without a finish is ridiculous but they've backed themselves into a corner and the commotion and "HOLY FUCK" moment of Lesnar and Ryback could be enough to distract from the non-finish.
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I give it a day at least before *BREAKING NEWS : GOLDBERG MIGHT BE AT ATLANTA*





No, he won't.
Goldberg vs lesnar vs ryback

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They need to stretch it out to WrestleMania but yeah, this needs to happen.

Ryback can't lose though. They need to end it in a non-finish somehow. I know a Hell in a Cell match ending without a finish is ridiculous but they've backed themselves into a corner and the commotion and "HOLY FUCK" moment of Lesnar and Ryback could be enough to distract from the non-finish.
F5 off the top through the cage Foley style and puts a hole in the ring
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They need to stretch it out to WrestleMania but yeah, this needs to happen.

Ryback can't lose though. They need to end it in a non-finish somehow. I know a Hell in a Cell match ending without a finish is ridiculous but they've backed themselves into a corner and the commotion and "HOLY FUCK" moment of Lesnar and Ryback could be enough to distract from the non-finish.
Why would there be a HOLYFUCK moment between Lesnar and Ryback ? Ryback isn't super over even if they are pushing him to the moon.
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... Why did Cena just do that? lol
Probably figures if he's going to be out might as well enjoy seeing Punk gets his ass kicked as consolation.

Found it funnier how they built up the whole important decision by Vince the whole night only to see Cena literally give away the announcement and just walks out of the ring leaving Vince speechless.

Did laugh at the comedic feeling of Ryback slamming Punk's head on the table.
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Why would there be a HOLYFUCK moment between Lesnar and Ryback ? Ryback isn't super over even if they are pushing him to the moon.
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Probably figures if he's going to be out might as well enjoy seeing Punk gets his ass kicked as consolation.
He wasn't "out" though. He took himself out of the match and gave it to Ryback. lol
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Wwe should pull a tna..ryback wins by dq in hiac lol
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Did laugh at the comedic feeling of Ryback slamming Punk's head on the table.
And this made me laugh out loud too. So sudden. lol
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He wasn't "out" though. He took himself out of the match and gave it to Ryback. lol
Would of made more sense to have Vince say Cena's not cleared with Cena protesting, but then again that would take away from Ryback and he needs the rub from Cena anyway.
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Wonder if there's a chance they'll add Ziggler to the match ? Seems strange that he'd cut that promo, save face by leaving during his match then not be included in the main event. Also you would be able to have Punk retain without hurting Ryback.
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Ryback's going to kill Punk and Heyman.
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For the first time since MITB last year, I think I'm gonna order HIAC to see RYBACK beat the hell outta Punk.
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I need to see a gif of miz getting hit.
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Outside of Punk-Cena at MITB last year and Rock-Cena, I haven't been this intrigued about the outcome of a match in years and years.
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Punk's going to win. This way, he can still say he's the best.
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I really don't see how they can have Ryback lose. They're just now picking up steam with him and just like that they're gonna have him lose and make him "human"?

Tough to see Punk's reign coming to an end though too especially since they've planted the seed for Punk-Rock at the Rumble and Punk losing it and ending this epic reign only to win it back and start another one from scratch seems ridiculous.

I don't know. They need to somehow think of a non-finish that doesn't leave the crowd facepalming.
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John Cena.

Pushes for weeks to fight for Punk. Says that even though he is injured, he wants to fight. Then when the time comes for picking Punk's opponent, he is just like "Nah, you need your ass kicked. Fight Ryback, bro" and walks off.

He could have just been straightforward and said he was not cleared to wrestle yet.
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The funny thing is if ryback were to win, he'd win a belt before wade Barrett who won nxt..
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Danie Bryan already won a belt before Barrett. That ship has sailed.
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John Cena.

Pushes for weeks to fight for Punk. Says that even though he is injured, he wants to fight. Then when the time comes for picking Punk's opponent, he is just like "Nah, you need your ass kicked. Fight Ryback, bro" and walks off.

He could have just been straightforward and said he was not cleared to wrestle yet.
lol. Made no sense.
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I really don't see how they can have Ryback lose. They're just now picking up steam with him and just like that they're gonna have him lose and make him "human"?

Tough to see Punk's reign coming to an end though too especially since they've planted the seed for Punk-Rock at the Rumble and Punk losing it and ending this epic reign only to win it back and start another one from scratch seems ridiculous.

I don't know. They need to somehow think of a non-finish that doesn't leave the crowd facepalming.
I agree with you that they have backed themselves into a corner, but there are so many ways to make this a clusterfuck. I honestly think having Ryback lose (not clean obviously) would be the best thing for him. The problem with "undefeated monster" gimmicks is that eventually you will lose and then they never recover because there is nothing else for the character.

If Ryback gets completely screwed by Lesnar/Heyman/Punk and you solve that problem in one move. He has been beaten, but he has something to go into. The key is WWE can't do something too ridiculous/over the top to have them beat him (ie. taser him like Goldberg). I think Lesnar breaking into the cell and having a huge faceoff while Punk smashes him in the back of the head with the steel steps would be a good finish. They could have the referee Punk chastised a few weeks ago do a fast count and have Ryback kick out at a normal two but not in time for the quick 3.

I think the best idea with this whole Punk dynamic is for him to completely go overboard with his quest for respect. Heyman and him conspire to completely take over the WWE. If CM Punk will beat the shit out of Vince McMahon, who won't he assault, beat, or intimidate in order to get respect and control? They get the referee, they have Lesnar as the unbridled monster (and tease him growing tired of Punk). Don't make it a giant stable, but just have him either manipulate people or simply beat the shit out of them. Keep Lesnar appearances down to pretty much only for Ryback confrontations to build to that for WrestleMania.

Ideally, you build it to where when Rock/Punk happens at the Royal Rumble that it seems like The Rock is the shining white knight who is not only coming back for the WWE Title but he is the only one left who can save the WWE from Punk and company. Vince begs The Rock to do what nobody has been able to do in over almost 2 years...humble CM Punk. The Rock is pumped. The Rock is jacked. The Rock delivers electric promos...but Punk just smirks and doesn't say a word. The Pipebomb Machine is simply smug and relatively quiet going into the single biggest match of his life. CM Punk defeats The Rock clean at the Royal Rumble.

The Elimination Chamber looms and Vince has one last chance to keep CM Punk from headlining the biggest WrestleMania of all time. Ryback vs Lesnar vs Cena vs The Undertaker vs The Rock vs Punk inside the Elimination Chamber for the WWE Championship. Surely, there is no chance in hell that CM Punk can retain. Ryback eliminates Lesnar. Cena/Taker/Punk/Rock all team up to take out Ryback. When Ryback is forced to leave, an angry Lesnar comes out and they brawl on the stage. The Undertaker eliminates Cena. CM Punk eliminates The Rock. CM Punk and Undertaker battle. You do a ref bump where they have to open the door. CM Punk low blows Undertaker and runs out of the Elimination Chamber and leaves the arena in a car with Paul Heyman driving like a bat out of hell.

Vince McMahon comes out and announces that the Chamber is a no contest, but that he owes The Undertaker an apology. He forgot that he has the single greatest entity in the history of professional wrestling...The Phenom...The Streak...The Undertaker! CM Punk will have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide because at WrestleMania XXIX in Metlife Stadium he will defend his WWE Championship against THE UNDERTAKER! The greatest championship reign in 40 years versus The greatest WWE career of all time. What better way to humble CM Punk and teach him about respect than to turn him from the greatest WWE Champion since the 1970s to just a mere statistic. Just another statistic in an even bigger legend's legacy. I wouldn't have CM Punk beat Undertaker. I'd have it follow the recent formula of "as close as you can get without beating him". Undertaker doesn't wrestle often, but it is sort of a "farewell tour" that ends with Undertaker/Cena at WrestleMania 30 where Cena turns heel and cheats to end The Streak and win the WWE Championship for the first time in 3 years.
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