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The WWE RAW After Mania Live from Bizzaro Land Thread
So, Mania is in the books, and well received. We’re expecting this to be the first proper post-Mania Raw for a couple of years.
What are we expecting to see? Roman appearance. Cody promo. Cody challenging Roman? Bayley return? What call ups are we expecting? There’s so many I could see making the move up this week; LA Knight, Legado Del Fantasma, Bron Breakker, Carmelo Hayes. Ciampa “official” call up? Time for Io to move? I expected Gonzalez and/or Kai but with them winning the NXT Womens Tag titles… Really hope they capitalise on Mania and keep the momentum going. |
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Likewise with them keeping the momentum going.
Veer is supposed to be making his debut. Cedric Alexander, Shelton Benjamin or Robert Roode jump out as opponents for him. I think Cody will keep his feud going with Seth. When it comes to Roman, I’m going with either Bobby Lashley or Drew as his next guy. Probably Lashley. Really want AJ Styles & Finn Balor to team up to face this Edge/Damian Priest alliance. Throw RK-Bro into that mix. I think Bayley and Asuka will be back, but don’t necessarily have a strong feeling about Raw or SmackDown. Bron Breakker and Io Shirai being called up this week makes sense. Gunther would not surprise me either — maybe even with Imperium. |
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I knew there was another female in the back of my mind. Asuka.
And yeah, came back to say Priest/Edge vs. Styles/Balor, not sure how the US title would play into that unless leads to Priest regaining it. I’d probably keep RKOBro out of this though. Also agree on Lashley and Drew being setup well to go after Roman with handing Omos his first loss and being the only man to kick out of End of Days respectively. I’d also be happy with Roman sitting out (WrestleMania) Backlash for storyline purposes. Imperium is an odd one. They’ve not been together in NXT full time for all that long but don’t feel like a good fit for the brand anymore and they just dropped the tag belts. There’s so many options to play with it’s actually exciting/interesting, whether they can keep all of these parts moving if they do bring a bunch in is the thing that dampens my excitement. |
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A lot of people are expecting this thing with Edge and Priest to be a faction. In time, sure, but let us just get a Styles & Balor team for a minute, please. Let it play out.
I’ve seen a few names bandied about. One I’ll throw out there is actually Brock Lesnar. If Edge’s whole thing is that he is going after lost souls/frustrated individuals — him getting Brock would be pretty epic. Especially if it led to tags where the entire babyface roster teams up to stop them. Never happen. But it would just be a volume all the way up to 11 way of doing things. |
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Kind of want Becky to do what she did in one of those photos and just come out with her own belt and pretend she never lost it.
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Haha. I didn’t even put that together when I saw the picture
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![]() I think it would be actually annoying heat if you’re watching Raw segments with Becky and then actually remember “Hang on! She’s not actually champion!” |
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I’d be surprised if Brock doesn’t take some time away, but if he does hang around I’d keep him quite close to this character he has now, it’s the most interesting he’s been in years.
I could see them adding Liv and Rhea to Edge as they’d fit the aesthetic and it’d be a little against the grain to have two females in a faction but I don’t think they need it. I think you’re right about them adding to it slowly, no need to rush it. |
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I know there’s a lot of reporting going on with Ronda, but I don’t expect to see her for a while.
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Based on the post-match staredown and stuff, I'd expect Becky/Ronda to be one of those automatic rematches at Backlash.
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Do you mean Becky/Bianca? They scrapped the automatic rematch thing a few years ago. They still do the odd direct rematch though so entirely plausible.
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Random guess.... Cody return promo eventually interrupted by Ciampa starting program for both.
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If they are going to keep Reigns "Unified Champion" I'd be interested in a triple threat with Reigns vs Lashley vs McIntyre at Wrestlemania Backlash to capitalize on their wins over Corbin and Omos at Mania.
I really like the idea of Priest and Edge going for RKBro for the next few months. AJ and Seth could work a program as well. Asuka returning to start a program with Becky would be good and you could have Bianca work with Alexa or someone else they want to shine up a bit. |
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Actually, id like to see Asuka return to start a program with Bianca. Thats not a match up we've seen and the match would be stellar. Id bring Bayley back against Becky. |
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They said the titles were unified into the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship but both titles are listed as separate on the website with the picture being Roman holding both. I'd guess he carries both belts around for a while, finally gets beaten only for Heyman to reveal fine print in the contract that it was the WWE title only, therefore splitting the belts again and keeping his Universal title run going.
There's no actual need for two World champions. The main reason they ever did it was for periods of time where they actually kept Raw and SmackDown completely separate including their own house shows and PPVs. But those days have been over for a while. Even when they still had split brand house shows, Lesnar was never defending the title on the Raw shows. So one World title is fine, but WWE can't help but default to excess so expect them to be split again soon enough. |
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And yeah, one champ over both shows works for me. There’s a few storyline things you can run with that. I’ve always liked the idea of a Lesnar or Roman being like this omnipotent Shao Khan type deal, like an overload watching all the mortals fight it out amongst themselves just for a shot at them. They come down from their “mountain” to put the mortal back in their place and remind the other mortals who they are. |
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Again, I personally have no problem with two world champs in and of itself, but the fucking company can't be assed to actually follow through with it on a regular basis. They'll split again, and then overfocus on one while minimizing the other until they put that belt on someone they decide to push to the moon but let the original focused belt suffer for it. You know: normal WWE shit. |
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Just make the US and IC titles the main brand-specific titles and let the world champion float between brands. That’s how it should have been for the past 20 years.
It shouldn’t be that hard to not make the convoluted mess of titles they’ve created. |
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It's a blood match!
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Agreed. However they’d need to do some “repair” work on the perception of the titles to make that work right now.
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Oh, NOW yeah, forget it. But I’d prefer they hyped up the history and did the necessary repair work over another messy unification turned split again. At least there’s a clear lineage including a bunch of all-time greats to link with those titles.
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WWE needs to build some faces up. If they are doing Rock/Reigns at WM39, then he's going to have a reign that lasts until WM40. You can't have him drop it at some schmuck PPV at this point. It has to be a watershed/pass the torch to the next face of the company at WrestleMania type deal. Whoever goes over Roman and ends this reign should be a made man.
I still can't believe how WWE has completely bungled so many potential main event babyfaces, but alas here we are. |
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Bron Breakker will take down Roman someday.
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Charlotte/Ronda I meant.
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Will be interested to see the card for "WM Backlash".
What % of the card will be WM rematches? Feels like if they start that "trend" that it will de-value the point of WM at all. |
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I think Charlotte & Becky rematch with a gimmick, probably I Quit or Submission.
I don't know if AJ will take time off or continue with Edge, but he'd need a buddy on his side because of Damien Priest. I think Fignuts idea of Bailey against Becky and Asuka with Bianca would be good. |
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Twitter doctors saying Roman's tricep is almost certainly torn based on the bruising. Generally takes 4-6 months of time to heal.
We'll see, but man that would be a fucking shitty way to end such a long title reign. |
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Shitty for his health, great for forcing them to do something more interesting.
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Buuuuuuuuuuut.....
It'll just be a tournament or some gimmick match, Lesnar will win, and Romain Rains will get it back. |
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They can work around by using an "Interim" champion in his absence.
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It's possibly that he sustained a deep tissue bruise in that bump, combined with the selling from the kimura leading some to ascertain that he's severely injured.
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Sucks if it’s true about Roman. But it’s not the end of the world:
* The story that Roman went so far to win only for that to be his end has got a poetic justice element to it. Gives Roman “somewhere else to go.” * They could just have Roman put an “embargo” on WWE now that he’s the biggest star in the world and they need to find suitable challengers for him. |
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Yep. Let the peons fight it out amongst themselves. Reigns can still have a presence on the shows without getting physically involved. Or put an interim champ in place and have Roman come back and SMASH ‘EM.
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I hope Cody gets a massive reaction tonight. Really happy for him. For me the move back to WWE is about the same thing he left the company 6 years earlier: he wants to be a top guy. The only place he can do that is WWE. They didn’t see it on him at the time so he went elsewhere to prove himself. If he was the centre of the AEW universe and it’s champion it’d always be tinged with him booking himself into the position. If he’s successful as a top guy in WWE it’s on merit.
To see him bet on himself and be able to come back to WWE as himself, with all his iconography, music, etc. was great. |
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#36 |
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I say release Roman and move on
He's had his time in the sun |
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Belt Goldberg or Omos IMMEDIATELY instead
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Like have Goldberg squash Cody in a match for the vacated title at WrestleMania Backlash
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i wonder what brocks contract is could he take the belt or is he going back to the farm.
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Veer should debut and squash Roman in 10 seconds
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