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Originally Posted by The CyNick
So did Owens lose matches 2 and 3 in 5 minute squashes? Because that would actually make your point. Oh whats that? That didnt happen... he kicked out of like 200 AA's? Hmmm.
In the first Bret-Austin fight Austin lost to a rollup, and it was done in a manner to make it look like Austin made a mistake. The 2nd fight was Bret beat the shit out of Austin, beat him literally to a pulp, the saving grace was they told the story that Austin was tough and refused to give up. But if you were to look at both matches, Austin was positioned to be closer to beating Bret the first time. If they did that today with Cena and Owens, the people like you would post "berrrrrrried" right after the fight.
Owens went from Cena to headlining the biggest NXT event in history to a match with Cesaro. Who should he have be put with after Cena?
And the difference between Austin and all these guys is that Austin proved he could hang with Bret. None of the guys today can hang with Cena. You know what is the most real promo that has been cut in the last few years? Its the one where Cena talks about wanting to pass the torch, but he's not just going to hand it over, someone needs to take it from him. In the promo he talks about how guys get a certain level of popularity, and they claim to be the next one. Then the match happens and all you hear is "Lets Go Cena, Cena Sucks". Cena might as well be wrestling a broom, because he's the one drawing the babyface AND the heel heat, and all these guys prove to be interchangeable. As a result, they go into the heap of guys who are interchangeable. Austin on the other hand was booked no differently than a guy like Kevin Owens, but he proved he could hang with the guy who was seen as the very best. Not only did he hang, but he started taking fans from him (hence the Mania double turn). Guys in this era have been given that chance, but they hit fly balls to the track when they are up to the plate. When someone hits a homerun, then they will be booked as star.
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Another swing and a miss. He was booked different in that he continued to be placed into relevant feuds that kept progressing his character. Owens for bumped down to Cesaro and again bumped into a baseless match work Ryback. When did Austin get moved down the card to feud with guys who've had zero direction? Oh, he didn't. That's right.
You're fucking daft if you think anyone outside of Cena has been given a legitimate opportunity. The guys he's wrestling are interchangeable because that's the way they are presented. How do you expect the talent move forward if they're suddenly dropped into feuds about losing their girlfriends or against a guy who's most recent success was being a tag team champion? Is that how they booked Austin into becoming a star?
Cena is also given the OPPORTUNITY to cut a heartfelt promo. Outside of Punk's pipe bomb when was the last time anyone was given ten minutes to just let loose and show some real personality instead of the same old tired pre written promo they've been doling out for years? Can you name one?
And please explain how going from beating the top face of the company, to the lose to him twice in consecutive matches, to headlining the developmental league show, to going on to face two guys who've done jack shit in the last number of years is in beneficial? Can you elaborate how that opportunity is the same as Austin and how that is being given a chance to "hit a homerun"? Because I'm baffled as to how that's supposed to help.
Any nobody can hang with Cena? Had you noticed nobody raved about his matches until the US title open started and he suddenly started working matches against guys like Owens, Cesaro, Zayne, etc , guys who were already known as great in ring talent? I don't recall anybody going ape shit watching Rusev and Cena go at it. Owens could clearly "hang" with Cena. His current status as with most of the roster has more to do with how the talent is presented that the talent themselves.
Nobody has or had a problem with Owens losing. It was the consecutiv loses and immediate bump back into obscurity that people bitch about. That didn't happen to Austin, regardless of whatever bull shit parallels you're going to try to pull out of your ass, they're not the same.