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objectively orton was around while cena was coming up. cena unquestionably is a star. is it fair to say they couldnt do it at the time when he was on the rise?
flash forward 10 years and i wont give much push back...but then? cenas tenure and social status are pretty high as far as wrestlers go. he's no hogan rock or austin but the number of people who "never watched wrestling even once" and still know cena is higher than nearly everyone to have ever done it before. i dunno. its a huge topic.
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