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Old 10-04-2021, 05:05 PM   #61679
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Originally Posted by drave View Post
and reading, or maybe that's just my inner yank thinking about trying to read.

edit: i dunno what happened here. think maybe i didnt read all the new posts.

so tired.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect View Post
Smeat said ROH would be dumb to work with WWE in response to a hypothetical I posted. His basis for this? His opinion because WWE bad. He then provided a list of “bad partnerships” that never actually happened. They just would have been bad if they had, because WWE bad. And everyone is saying he posts facts because it’s easier than, once again, admitting that Noid was right.

Don’t believe me?

EVOLVE: Got plenty out of the WWE deal. Probably lent on WWE because of bad financial position. The promoter was also working for WWE and basically sold it off to them. This one happened. Is only bad if you wanted EVOLVE to continue to exist as its own entity.

STARDOM: This never happened. STARDOM still exists and never had a partnership with WWE. “They would have been absorbed into NXT Japan” is complete speculative fiction.

NOAH: The same fiction. There were bullshit rumors about the WWE looking to purchase them, because WWE loves acquiring Yakuza fronts. This wasn’t even rumored to be a partnership. And it NEVER HAPPENED. How can you call something that didn’t happen a fact? Or information. If my uncle had bought out Subway they wouldn’t make sandwiches anymore. So not a sandwich shop.

PROGRESS: Small-time British promotion that was basically acquired by WWE, right? UK’s scene madly inflated by newsletter peddlers trying to insist some sort of insurgence. The same people will say that Australia is hot. NO ONE gives a fuck about wrestling here. If PROGRESS had more to offer, it may have been more valuable. But “talent exchanges” that allow a company to stay afloat for longer than it should aren’t exactly a bad thing. Unless you’re expecting the main event of WrestleMania to be sent and a struggling promotion to stay alive based off that.

UK & Europe: So you admit it? These places need WWE more than they can actually offer assistance to them in a lot of cases. These places are staying off execution in many cases. WWE buying them when they can’t stay in business is...business? What is your major issue with this?

TNA: Didn’t happen. Also, TNA has been dead for years. The only thing slightly valuable about them would be lending WWE footage of some guys pre-WWE. Basically Joe and Styles.

New Japan: Another thing that didn’t happen and another case of “would have.” WWE has access to top New Japan talent. They have the opportunity to sign them when their deals are up like anyone else. New Japan World being part of the WWE Network would have been awesome for them. Way more exposure on Peacock now too.

CMLL: Didn’t happen. Also, isn’t this promotion basically dead? So when they’re on their last legs and work with WWE, it’s WWE’s fault. When they don’t work with WWE? WWE’s fault. Seriously, what is even your point?

So, out of a list of facts and information designed to prove that WWE are horrible partners, only two of the promotions you actually named worked with WWE. EVOLVE and Progress. Of those two, it’s a matter of perspective as to whether or not this has been “bad” or not. These promotions may not have lasted anywhere near as long as they did without WWE.

Guys, I’ve got evidence that vaccines don’t work. I know a scientist, right? They didn’t invent a vaccine. They got some water in a syringe. But because that didn’t work, vaccines don’t work. You’d have to be an idiot to get a vaccine.

This is literally the line of logic being played here. It’s not even just made-up evidence—it’s made up off the back of scenarios that never even happened.

WWE didn’t purchase NOAH, or CMLL, or TNA. You can’t just say that they tried and count it. But hey, here on TPWW that’s just “news.” What a steaming pile of crap. And y’all know it.

Smeat isn’t reporting the news. He’s taking whatever rumor is running, without citation, and throws it out there without any critical thinking. I used to be softer on this sort of stuff, because in a business of rumor and jealous perspectives, you’re going to end up reporting on what you heard from a shit-kicker somewhere. Someone with a gripe somewhere.

But the issue is when you take that word from the shit-kicker as gospel. Which Smeat does do. WWE was planning to go on a tour clubbing baby seals and spitting on sick puppies? Of course they were. This is fact now. Someone asks if they’re good with pets and it’s “No! Remember the seal clubbing!” It never happened.

Smeat takes it further, because it’s not just bad faith in WWE. That would be understandable. He will post stories that can be dismissed by simply reading them then thinking about them. He does this ALL the time. No, he doesn’t write the stories. Some other dude looking to squeeze a buck out of the naive does. But you can at least be responsible in checking to see if you’re helping someone prey on others or not.

At least Smeat does take their bullshit from behind paywalls and gets in the way of them making a buck. But that’s not why he does it. It’s just an unintentional side effect of stealing others’ “work.” Which in too many easy-to-detect cases is just someone throwing whatever shit they can out there.

And, to be honest, it’s pretty gutless and irresponsible to post things you know are lies, but to then just stick your hands up and say “I’m just posting what I read.” And I know you actually do believe what you read, so it’s others doing that on your behalf really. But seriously dude — think about the difference between fact and opinion, and when you read that Tony Khan saved a bus full of orphans that Vince McMahon catapulted a flaming ball of rock at, just maybe think about whether or not it came from “AEW Newz” this week.
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