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Old 01-14-2017, 06:28 PM   #31574
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Originally Posted by Simple Fan View Post
Another thing with Cornette's criticism is he contradicts himself. He complained about them doing moves no one could get up from and then also complains about selling to much. He also said a perfect match was exciting, drew money, got both guys over and showed no obvious cooperation. Now they hit the first three out of the park, crowd was hot for the match, New Japan World had a big and increase in subscriptions as well as a good live crowd, and both are more over now than be for the match. Cornette himself said they were crisp with their execution of the moves. In his words it was damn near a perfect match. Something else funny he said was the NJPW should fire them both for going into the announce and technical area. Like I said his hatred of Omega clouds his judgement of this match. He didn't watch it for what it was and wasn't interested in seeing the story they told in the ring so everything seemed like a spot to him.
Doing moves no one could get up from and "selling too much" are not actually in contradiction to each other, and you can gather that from the context of what Cornette is saying, surely. One was a point about the excessive nature of the spots and the other was about the pacing of the match. Also, if the moves are moves you shouldn't get up from, and you get up at all, then it goes to follow that you aren't selling properly. This was fairly clearly Cornette's point. Lots of ill-timed lying around punctuated by big moves that should have involved more lying around.

The point about the perfect match isn't a contradiction either. Even if you accept the first three, as you put it (and New Japan World is actually under-performing, sadly, even though this did spike it), you're still left with the cooperation aspect. So it's not a perfect match. Cornette is responding to assertions that this was a 6-star match. That is better than perfect. Corny's just saying that the match wasn't perfect and here is why. Then he lists the perfectly valid reasons why. He didn't say it was fucking Tomko/Richards.

I actually didn't catch the bit about the technical stuff, lol. I was making a coffee or something. I'm going to go back and listen to that.
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