[Tom Guycott]

Originally Posted by Fignuts People lighting up jim cornette's twitter about kevin owens. It's like they never actually listened to what his problem was in the first place.

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin Did they have beef for something? I've got no idea.

Originally Posted by Fignuts Owens was apparently very stubborn and difficult to work with in ROH. He also was in worse shape back then too, and cornette kept trying to get him to put down the cheeseburger and pick up some weights. Cornette said that he'll never be successful unless he changes those aspects. Which he clearly did. He also criticized owens ring attire, but I can't really blame him. I never thought I'd see a guy who dresses like a yard tard as champ either, but here we are.

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball Cornette's problem is he has a really bad way of giving advice or running things that it always ends up pissing whoever he gives it to. Even if the advice has some merit to it, it comes off more as insulting than constructive just because of his style. Its a big reason why every company he's ever worked for, he ends up burning bridges really quickly.

Well, its equal parts Cornette being abrasive and people not paying attention to what the fuck he says when it comes to someone they might like and/or playing devil's advocate because they don't like him.

He continually gets it, no mater how many times and ways he re-explains what he said about Steen he gets people who "rub it in" anytime Steen does something of note in WWE. It isn't really helped by Kevin either, who will take a shot at Jim, and then flare shit up again (work or shoot is debatable, Steen might really feel that way, or he might be doing it for the reaction, who knows).

People still shit on him about the Sami Zayn thing too: where he basically said he has all the tool to get over if he loses the mask and ditches the comedy spots. Lo and behold, he got the fuck over in NXT without a mask and keeping the funny stuff relegated to untelevised house shows, and even at a minimum there.

The flipside, though, is his issue with The Elite and Joey Ryan (which essentially is the same problem he had with El Generico). On one hand, he has a huge point in things like a superkick being a finisher- the end of a match from any other spot on the card- but then Young Bucks do 800 of them per match, and another 300 in tandem, and they roll right into more spots. On the other, it works for them, they're over because of it, people pay for and expect to see that from a YB match, and it isn't like kayfabe isn't alive and well and they have to pretend their shit is super devistating. Joey Ryan is basically filling a niche, and is pretty successful at it much like The Young Bucks, so who gives a fuck that he won a test of strength with his cock? Not anyone watching a Joey Ryan match, because that's par for the course like watching Sandman club a bunch of people with a kendo stick whilst drinking beers. And his problem with Kenny seems to stem from thinking his facials are "too much" and going back to the matchs he had years ago with the blow up doll and the little girl. Makes sense he thinks that is hokey, but at the same time, some people embrace the hokey. Wrestling isn't always SFB, and sometimes TOO MUCH seriousness can kill a match, or a show, or an angle, or a character.

Yes, he can take shit too seriously, but it doesn't stop him from having a point. And *usually*, his point is pretty spot on... until people stop listening or take it out of context. I still shake my head at the Nash YouShoot, where they play back everything Corny said, but without a) the context of the entire story of having to teach Kane to be Diesel, and b) the part five seconds after the end of the part they played back for Kev where he specifically says that he isn't knocking Nash, but reiterating his moveset was pretty limited. Without any of that, it sounds like he is just shitting on the guy for no reason, especially how Corny talks.