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Old 09-09-2014, 06:45 PM   #974
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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan View Post
You really need to try to comprehend things better. That's the entire problem here. Again, EVERYTHING that's said on the situation about her doing ANYTHING wrong is taken as "You're blaming the victim" no matter what and it's fucking silly how people are unwilling to read things logically. All I said was "It's wrong to hit another person unless it's absolutely necessary to defend yourself." and you got so eager to jump to "He's saying that Ray Rice was defending himself."

No... "It's wrong to hit another person unless it's absolutely necessary to defend yourself." As in if you're not defending yourself, you should not hit another person. As in she should not have hit him. She slapped him on the way to the elevator. Then she looks to elbow him in the chest or throat in the elevator.

I've seriously said multiple time in this thread already that Ray Rice was wrong for what he did. He crossed the line. He went overboard defending himself. But of course that's been ignored every time because saying that she did ANYTHING wrong = "You're blaming the victim" It's a fucked up way of preventing logical discussion.
What does this have to do with anything? You keep on going on about "She was wrong too" as if you're making some kind of relevant point but everything you have written about this so far has been incredibly specious. I've noticed this in your posts before, where you try to fit everything into this very narrow and formulaic line of reasoning that you believe to be logic but in actuality is just the limits of your own understanding.

A female hitting a guy is not the same as a guy hitting a girl, don't be absurd. The fact that you're even trying to put the two on equal footing should be enough for you and Destor to want to take a step back and figure out where you took a wrong turn in your judgment. It's a double standard and there are exceptions like there are to anything, but this circumstance isn't one of them. Her swatting at him a couple of times doesn't constitute "literal domestic violence" either beyond the most trivial use of the term.

I'm not on a witchhunt against Ray Rice, I don't think he is the scum of the earth and and I don't care if he gets suspended or not since you would have to suspend half the league if you went after everyone who beat their wives. But don't present it as if there is a lot of ambiguity and "uncomfortable truths" involved here, because this is about as stark a case of female battery as you're ever going to see.
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